Thread 9: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

2nd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

3rd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

4th Observer ‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting.

To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as this will only encourage them back to the threads.

We have done amazingly well together - in the main that is, not mentioning any names but you know who you are! - for eight threads so far. I can't be on the threads as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion ticking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

No saltiness. Keep to the path. Thank you.

Could there be room for us to produce a sea-salted , brandy infused , fudge bar in honour of this thread please ? We could make regional varieties with ingredients sourced from the counties visited in the books ? Gourmet collectors items . High quality yet touchingly affordable tourist gifts etc. Anyone here on Dragon's Den ?

And a film could be based on our remarkable , unexpectedly suucesful venture and how Mumsnet started it all.

Disclaimer: Much thunder with biblical rain here and I'm feeling cooped up today so please forgive my flights of fancy .

Still think it could be a winner....

I've also joined MN because of this multi-part thread. Thank you all. It's been fascinating. I have no special talent, I can be - er - the cricket correspondent? (There's a really weird bit in TSP where Moth suddenly produces a radio that he's carried all the way, in order to listen to the last few overs of the 2013 Ashes - a neat way of dating the end of a section of the book but a sure way to make readers notice that this is all an artistic construction. If he has the radio he been listening to it a lot more than that, just saying).

wasnt the mortgage owing on the house 280k? Which seems a crazy high figure especially considering this was years ago and for a couple in, or approaching, their fifties? It makes you wonder about their employment situation, how they managed to secure a mortgage this high. I know it’s reported that RW lost her job as a book keeper for a hotel, and then was available to take up the book keeper job for Martin Hemmings, which was only a part time job anyway. I wonder if Moth was working at this point. It all sounds like a couple massively over stretching themselves financially possibly from way before the whole book idea

The fallout where Hannah admitted creaming off all the 100k profits of the book that many people bought assuming they were helping charity and CTM even wrote in the foreward that was the books intention and then building a spa block without planning and lying about it's intended use. But she thought she'd get away with it by bleating that it "was what he wanted".

anyone seen this? Sorry I’m not very up to date https://www.tiktok.com/@bbcnews/video/7528500076306599191?lang=en

A new poster.

I certainly wish no harm to Raynor/Sally but I can't bring myself to feel sorry for her. She is the author of her own misfortune. For example, stealing around £64k in a gross breach of her employer's trust over a period of time is not an easy mistake to make. It requires effort and cunning. Then there are all the doubts on top about the reality of Moth/Tim's health, the walks, the French property and so on. Combined it is a pretty big deal, with a whole money-making industry attached.

The huge level of media and public interest in what she and Moth/Tim may or may not have done has surprised me though.

It is interesting that you think that the whistle-blowers are in it for the money. I can't see that myself. For example the Hemmings have stated clearly that they got the stolen money back, they are not interested in the money now and it is about setting the record straight on behalf of the late Martin Hemmings. Bill Coles is already wealthy in his own right. I think the film brought a lot of extra publicity so that more people saw the Winns and recognised them as the Walkers. Some people will have been driven too far by seeing what they know or believe to be false claims being repeated in so many interviews.

Why do you feel sorry for her and suspect the whistle-blowers of just being in it for the money, if I understand you correctly?

@DisappointedReader Why do you feel sorry for her and suspect the whistle-blowers of just being in it for the money, if I understand you correctly?

Reading it again, the PP is surely on a wind up mission.
Shouldn't probably have bitten 🤦.

my sympathy lies with the Hemmings family who had their lives and business shafted, and for anyone else who’s a victim

Welcome @cricketandwhodunnits and for the point on the radio. We'll put you on the list. You never know when someone might come in useful!

According to the letter from the consultant in June 2015, TW "managed to continue working, while contending with his symptoms, until a couple of years ago." ie he gave up his job in 2013, if the consultant is correct. With SW only working part-time, I assume their income from employment would have been quite small. Although didn't they also have some income from a holiday let - or did I make that up?

Here we go again. A “new poster” is seemingly off-message and the OP demands an explanation. Good luck to anyone on here with a different point of view.

I live on a Devon bit of the SWCP. Could I be the 'cream or jam first' correspondent, please?

It's jam @songlines no need for debate.

Why on earth would you blob jam on your scone first?

Absolute madness!

Quite right. Phew.

In the past I have had to deal with embezzlers. The level of planning and underhand deception involved beggars belief, and the impact on those stolen from is always truly terrible. It is never a 'mistake', especially when a sum like £64,000 is involved. It takes serious effort to steal that amount of money. I simply cannot understand those who make excuses for this woman. The rest of her many 'mistakes' also show her to be a habitual liar.

@DisappointedReader may I just say thanks for starting this thread and for hosting the fair and incisive comments. I hope you have seen that a few of us have surfaced recently to give our support.

Growing up in the South West, a turd was often referred to as 'a finger of fudge'... 😂

Actually as long as there are: 1) fruit scones 2) clotted cream 4) strawberry jam and 5) tea then anything goes!

Having grown up in the South West, turds (the unburied kind, left by our intrepid MothRay/TimNor?SalThy) were sometimes referred to as 'a finger of fudge' 😂
You're welcome!

I quite fancy a scone now and being neither from Devon or Cornwall I feel that I can remain neutral. Just give me a scone! In fact just give me two scones, one each way, I'll eat both and I'll tell you which I like best. I'm generous like that.

Now, on to other important matters whilst we have our fingers in our ears.

How are we pronouncing scone?

SCONN <gavel>

So I have to ask, was leaving out 3) a deliberate ommission or was it a case of mistakes were made?

Argghhhn. You've opened a door that cannot be closed...mistake was made.

But scone definitely rhymes with gone.