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Thread 9: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 20/07/2025 00:16

The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

2nd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

3rd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

4th Observer ‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting.

To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as this will only encourage them back to the threads.

We have done amazingly well together - in the main that is, not mentioning any names but you know who you are! - for eight threads so far. I can't be on the threads as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion ticking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

No saltiness. Keep to the path. Thank you.

The real Salt Path: what’s in the book, and what The Obse...

The real Salt Path: what’s in the book, and what The Obse...

Raynor and Moth Winn’s redemptive journey from penury and homelessness led to a bestselling book. The truth behind it is very different

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

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Iwrotesomething · 20/07/2025 14:24

Aspanielstolemysanity · 20/07/2025 14:20

I'm glad it's not just me that can't cope with Reddit!
Yes lots of forthright opinions on there, all chiming with the majority on here. Likewise in the comments section of most of the major papers.

I am all for being contrarian. A lot of us saw there were real problems with the book at the point the view of the "crowd" was to love it.

Does my head in, but nonetheless, I've been through the hiking one, where they are about as unimpressed as posters here - and then one lone voice comes on to defend them. Eerie.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UKhiking/comments/1lt3m8e/the_salt_path_controversy/

FurryHappyKittens · 20/07/2025 14:26

I found Reddit tricky to navigate at first, but thanks to this I've become more adept and I'm finding it REALLY helpful for all sorts of things. It's almost become my go to for some stuff. And I also realise that some subReddits have their own Wikis and FAQs!

It's a good place I'm finding.

DisappointedReader · 20/07/2025 14:26

FurryHappyKittens · 20/07/2025 14:20

I strongly suggest that we no longer engage with, @ or quote this poster.

In five pages over 20% of posts have been by them, tagging them, quoting them, or mentioning them.

Quite a derailing success story.

I agree.

As a strategy it only works if pps give it their direct attention.

Enough already.

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FurryHappyKittens · 20/07/2025 14:34

Some of the comments on the UK hiking subreddit are about experiencing prejudice about being older, and not believing it in the book.

I find it difficult to believe that it's ever a thing because of the age of many walkers on footpaths and trails etc. Loads are a lot older than the Walkers were in 2013. To experience prejudice for being in your fifties, when you're probably the average age seems unlikely.

SwetSwetSwet · 20/07/2025 14:37

FurryHappyKittens · 20/07/2025 14:20

I strongly suggest that we no longer engage with, @ or quote this poster.

In five pages over 20% of posts have been by them, tagging them, quoting them, or mentioning them.

Quite a derailing success story.

With a figure of 20%, I'm not sure it's been derailing, rather boosting interest as the thread flagged.

TonstantWeader · 20/07/2025 14:40

afternoon all, have been out walking a section of the Slate Path with the Wild Pooing Correspondent (otherwise known as DDog) and a friend who has seen the film. Part of our conversation did indeed touch on the unveiling. Friend thought the film was ok but had clearly been filmed only in the section between Ilfracombe and Minehead; according to her there weren't any scenes in Newquay or other busy areas. She said this made for some amusing bits where the sea shifted from being on the right (as it would be walking in the direction they were going) to being on their left when it was representing another bit of the path. We were chatting about how artistic licence like that doesn't bother either of us, but presenting as 100% factually accurate a tale which is very far from that is something completely different.

One thing I have always observed by scolders of MN threads (and to some extent, Tattle) is that it's always where it's largely women talking that attracts the wiggings and descriptions like 'mumsy'. Other fora such as are typically populated largely by men don't attract this sort of comment, despite them being much more plainspeaking and robust.

Anyway, even though I don't have children, you should imagine all my posts clothed in velour and adorned by a frilly apron. I'd hate to let the side down otherwise.

PS @Bauds1 hello and welcome! I took the reference to 29 July to mean the next episode of the Obs podcast that would feature Chloe H. I wasn't necessarily expecting anything new to be revealed then, if that makes sense.

EsmaCannonball · 20/07/2025 14:43

Has the film got a distribution deal in the US yet? I guess that was the big hope for recouping money and Oscar nominations. I don't think any amount of crisis PR is going to make that salvageable. The film will possibly do well on a streaming site with people wanting to watch it out of curiosity.

Stravaig · 20/07/2025 14:43

Stravaig · 20/07/2025 13:57

Yes! I think a series, because any subsequent treatment must shift focus to centre all the people who have been wronged along the way.

I'm also thinking that if I were GA or JI, and I've been taken in the Winn/Walkers, and felt embarrassed or betrayed, I might be quite interested in reprising my role in one of those high-quality dramatised exposé limited series that the major streaming services have been producing lately. Then the film just becomes a prequel - 'that's what they tried to sell, but here's the true story'. I'd have thought portraying the same role as somewhat heroic then decidedly villainous would be quite satisfying professionally. Not that I know anything about it whatsoever!

Choux · 20/07/2025 15:08

Stravaig · 20/07/2025 14:43

I'm also thinking that if I were GA or JI, and I've been taken in the Winn/Walkers, and felt embarrassed or betrayed, I might be quite interested in reprising my role in one of those high-quality dramatised exposé limited series that the major streaming services have been producing lately. Then the film just becomes a prequel - 'that's what they tried to sell, but here's the true story'. I'd have thought portraying the same role as somewhat heroic then decidedly villainous would be quite satisfying professionally. Not that I know anything about it whatsoever!

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Quite. It gives an extra layer of… I don’t know what the word is. An in joke between actor and audience. Just like when Colin Firth played the part of Mark Darcy in Bridget Jones when the Bridget Jones character talks in the book about Darcy from Pride and Prejudice who is of course played by Colin Firth.

DisappointedReader · 20/07/2025 15:08

SwetSwetSwet · 20/07/2025 14:37

With a figure of 20%, I'm not sure it's been derailing, rather boosting interest as the thread flagged.

That still leaves 80% of interest without the derailing. I think the thread can cope with that and would be better for it. There are bound to be quieter times.

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DisappointedReader · 20/07/2025 15:13

Afternoon all, have been out walking a section of the Slate Path with the Wild Pooing Correspondent

Sterling work out in the field from our rovering reporter.

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TonstantWeader · 20/07/2025 15:16

DisappointedReader · 20/07/2025 15:13

Afternoon all, have been out walking a section of the Slate Path with the Wild Pooing Correspondent

Sterling work out in the field from our rovering reporter.

😂😂

TheBrandyPath · 20/07/2025 15:17

Hello everyone .. I've just joined because your resident saboteuse told us not to. I don't like being told what is toxic and what to do. Hope that's ok?!

Fandango52 · 20/07/2025 15:20

TheBrandyPath · 20/07/2025 15:17

Hello everyone .. I've just joined because your resident saboteuse told us not to. I don't like being told what is toxic and what to do. Hope that's ok?!

Welcome aboard, Brandy!

Choux · 20/07/2025 15:22

TheBrandyPath · 20/07/2025 15:17

Hello everyone .. I've just joined because your resident saboteuse told us not to. I don't like being told what is toxic and what to do. Hope that's ok?!

I would rather walk the Brandy Path than the Salt Path. Where is it?

DisappointedReader · 20/07/2025 15:24

TheBrandyPath · 20/07/2025 15:17

Hello everyone .. I've just joined because your resident saboteuse told us not to. I don't like being told what is toxic and what to do. Hope that's ok?!

That's the spirit!

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swpath · 20/07/2025 15:25

I have a long standing dislike of TSP book due to how it portrays locals and tourists along the route.

My kids, like everyone else's, work in the tourist facing jobs.
In our particular stretch the majority of adults work in non tourist areas - WFH, working away, farming, specialist niche manufacturing, there's all sorts of stuff going on.

No local teens need a tourist matchmaking. A tourist trying this would get a hard gen alpha stare. In Clovelly they almost certainly went to school together, hang out at various pubs, young farmers and drive around the county in modied cars.
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We've just had the 'nearly dead and newly weds down along with the private school kids and just in this last week it's really opened up to everyone and I mean everyone.
DH & DS walked a stretch of the coastal path today and apparently everyone and their dog was out before the rain came in. A couple of any age or even any gender mix would not be remarkable.

I really, really dislike the way the Walker/Winns portray us as naive yokels judging homelessness. If you're in a cafe buying a cup of tea in August, if my kid doesn't recognise you from school or after-school activities or the other 11 months of the year, you are probably a tourist. And as a tourist, you probably won't be there tomorrow let alone next week.

And tourists often behave badly because they are unlikely to be witnessed by work colleagues or their normal community. Most places now have pay first policies due to the amount of runaways. Shop lifting certainly goes up. And the amount of dog poo just left on paths increases noticeably.

I just want someone to write a really nice book about how lovely the place is. How much we appreciate living here and how we celebrate the place. And how cheerful our teens are working huge amounts of hours during the summer.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 20/07/2025 15:27

The thread is attracting a great deal of outside attention.

Tell me about it, I can't even leave the house for all the reporters camped out on my front drive.

Oh the plus side Cadbury should really be sending me. In a strictly official capacity of course us some free Fudge bars. We've given them better publicity than they've had in years.

TheBrandyPath · 20/07/2025 15:27

It is my joke as I have been prompted to join because of this thread. I have walked the SW Coast Path all my life (although of course we didn't call it that) - I never understood why there was a book about it called Salt Path. As some of the earlier posts have said, this was not a salt path - it was certainly a brandy path!

swpath · 20/07/2025 15:32

You out wrecking tonight @TheBrandyPath ?thought I'd stick some lights up, although we're more likely to catch people looking for a party than ships carrying cargo.

TheBrandyPath · 20/07/2025 15:33

@swpath looks like two N Devonians have sailed into this harbour at the same time!

Chateaudiaries · 20/07/2025 15:42

Just marking place while watching Tour de France.

On the subject of the Winns being discriminated by age, I also don’t buy this. I am a keen walker, got into it at uni and had a large group of friends out hiking most weekends.

We are all early 50’s now and still walk/camp regularly. I would say we are not unusual, our various offspring are mostly independent which means more time again for leisure activities in this age group.

OpenThatWindow · 20/07/2025 15:44

Thebelleofstmarys · 20/07/2025 14:06

Somewhat random interjection from me , but something odd from the book which I found irritating and strange was a tale of a soup kitchen in Newquay . I lived there until 2021 , was quite involved with various community projects / charities and cannot recall a soup kitchen at all. There was a drop in hub , now closed , which provided meals on certain days plus a community kitchen which did similar . Maybe it's my age - similar to RW - but the soup kitchen words conjured images of earlier times when Men of the Road received basic sustenance from soup kitchens from kind hearted citizens . I felt it was an archaic phrase used to emphasise the reader's impression of how down on their luck Raymoth were at the time. She is fond of tugging at her reader's heartstrings by using flowery, emotive language

Mind you, I must admit to being pretty cross with them for perpetuating the myth that a good old walk will sort everything out and wish I had a pound for everytime some well meaning person has suggested similar to me so i probably am just being irritable and splitting hairs . And as an aside , was asked to cut back on exercise the other day by physio as they feel it's worsening one of my conditions currently. My daily goal is to walk round town and to the beach for an hour in total. About a mile . Yes it takes me that long and I need painkillers in order to achieve that but my muscles are wasting alarmingly now.
Often physically unable to get further than.the garden. It's rubbish .

I'm so sorry you're struggling - it sounds like you have a huge amount of resilience 💐

And that's really interesting insight - maybe SW just assumed soup kitchens are everywhere and she'd get away with that fabrication? Or amended the hub to make it evoke more pathos.

I know others might say little fibs are harmless, but it seem like there are dozens. Some more criminal than others, but of course now it makes you question everything.

Was it a total scam scheme?

mauvishagain · 20/07/2025 15:44

Placemarking

OpenThatWindow · 20/07/2025 15:53

TheBrandyPath · 20/07/2025 15:17

Hello everyone .. I've just joined because your resident saboteuse told us not to. I don't like being told what is toxic and what to do. Hope that's ok?!

Hey Brandy.

We've got some Fudge bars somewhere if you'd like one?

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