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Neighbours causing such a fuss about ivy! Really?

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Peekaboooooo · 19/07/2025 20:40

Our neighbours have told us about ivy coming over from our side onto their side at least 5 times in the last couple of months. They are a retired, active couple in their late 70s who maintain their garden well.
Firstly, the ivy was not that bad but we did what they asked and cut some back along the fence. Since then, our neighbour has asked again and has almost sounded a bit rude. He says he doesn't like ivy.
This morning he spoke to my husband again about it and this time my husband had to say that we like ivy and we'd like to keep it. Dh said we'd cut back a bit more but then that's it.
I've checked the fence out carefully this evening, both sides, and I can't understand what the problem is. Any ivy coming through the fence is minimal. Plus they can't even see it because it's behind their shrubs and they can't see that part of the garden from their house. And, it's our fence!

What's really got to me is their attitude towards us. Our neighbour even called my husband lazy once which was so untrue and unfair. We both work, have two young children (one with SEN) and lots of life stuff going on as most people do. Our house isn't perfect and may not be as immaculate as our neighbours but we do our best.

I kind of feel like we're being judged. Sometimes I've noticed our neighbour look up our driveway as he walks past and now I'm wondering what he's thinking.

AIBU or are our neighbours ivy grumbles and criticisms justified?

Such a shame because they've been fine for the most part of living here (nearly 4 years) and have been friendly up until now.

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Da1ryQu33n · 20/07/2025 09:22

Morgenrot25 · 20/07/2025 09:11

It's your ivy.
When my fuschia grows over fence into neighbours garden I cut it.* *
Fuschia is not remotely as hideous as Ivy though.

That’s debatable. Can’t stand fuchsias, love Ivy.

I love the free plants I get when my neighbours climbers poke over our fence.

Op is cutting her ivy.

Da1ryQu33n · 20/07/2025 09:24

RampantIvy · 20/07/2025 09:21

Other insect and bird friendly plants exist, and yes, ivy is that bad in our garden as it grows through the "prison fence" that Network Rail put up. We have to cut back the ivy two or three times as year to keep it under control.

I suspect that posters who think it isn't a problem don't have vigorous and uncontrollable ivy growing in their garden.

I do, it’s easy to keep under control. I love having it.

RobertJohnsonsShoes · 20/07/2025 09:29

Just spent 4 weeks killing the fuckers on my side. Ungentlemanly conduct having it I say.

eyeblob · 20/07/2025 09:30

we have ivy coming in from next door, its destroying the fence and despite me pulling it off it keeps on coming. its annoying!

caringcarer · 20/07/2025 09:35

Peekaboooooo · 19/07/2025 20:53

But the point is, we have cut it back! It's not on the top of their fence and there are probably about 10 ivy leaves poking through at the bottom of their side.

There shouldn't be any ivy poking through their side. Ivy grows extremely quickly so you need to either remove it from that fence or trim it each week to stop ANY going into next door. If this retired couple take pride in their garden why should they have your weeds growing through.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 20/07/2025 09:41

Ivy coming through the fence is not minimal. It spreads everywhere and quickly. Your fault, this one.

VoluptuaSneezelips · 20/07/2025 09:48

Da1ryQu33n · 20/07/2025 08:55

I’ve been after glacier ivy for ages, it’s always out of stock or expensive. Any good sources?

The plant pages on RHS always have a link to nurseries that sell the specific plant whose information you have searched. Here is the page for the 'Glacier', hope you manage to source some. RHS Glacier Ivy

Hedera helix 'Glacier' (v) | ivy 'Glacier' Climber Wall Shrub/RHS

Hedera helix 'Glacier' (v) | ivy 'Glacier' Climber Wall Shrub/RHS

Find help & information on Hedera helix 'Glacier' (v) ivy 'Glacier' Climber Wall Shrub from the RHS

https://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/45202/hedera-helix-glacier-(v)/details

zingally · 20/07/2025 09:55

Ivy is bad for brickwork, or whatever it's holding on to. It's super invasive and sends out tendrils into every tiny space or crack, over time making it bigger.

Jambolaya · 20/07/2025 09:55

Ivy can look lovely in the right setting. It’s also invasive, fast growing, and can look a total mess.

We have neighbour with a fast growing vine that comes over our border, strangling other plants and trees. It’s a constant battle cutting it back to the fence in summer. I don’t have the time to stop their plant making my garden look shit, and I would never plant something so fast growing and dominant myself.

Peekaboooooo · 20/07/2025 09:56

This is how the fence is looking. The bits of ivy on the ground are just the bits that have been cut.

Neighbours causing such a fuss about ivy! Really?
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HowToTrainYourDragonfruit · 20/07/2025 10:05

LetsPutTheKettleOn · 19/07/2025 20:56

I agree with the previous posters about it being extremely invasive. In addition it traps moisture causing fence rot. I can see why they want it controlled. Sorry if it’s not the responses you were looking for.

But it's not up to the neighbours if OP rots their own fence. Anything that comes through to their side the neighbours can cut back themselves. They don't have the right to tell OP to do anything beyond their side of the fence line.

outrageously · 20/07/2025 10:05

When we moved into this house our retired neighbours used to ring us to tell what to do with our garden.

They didn't seem to understand it's OUR garden, and we have it how we want!

HowToTrainYourDragonfruit · 20/07/2025 10:09

OP your ivy is perfectly well controlled.

Disturbia81 · 20/07/2025 10:17

Walkden · 20/07/2025 02:21

"I just don't know if it's because they're an older couple with too much time on their hands."

You sound very judgemental and ageist maybe . What if someone said the real problem is you are a young couple who are selfish and entitled?

If you do not have time to maintain your garden/ ivy properly you should dispose of it. Unlike your infirm shared neighbour at the back you are quite capable of preventing the ivy invading their garden and taking root behind / amongst/ underneath their shrubs; you just can't be bothered.

You neighbours are in their 70's; they may not be agile enough unable to reach around the shrubs to remove the ivy going through the fence and preventing it rooting in their garden and this will only get harder for them. Frankly they shouldn't have to anyway.

If you like the ivy and want to keep it make the effort to control it properly

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But it usually is older people whose world has got so small who complain about this kind of stuff. While the rest of us are working, raising kids, looking after parents, they focus on these kind of things as they have nothing else.
I’m not talking about all old people, just the ones who live like this.

Disturbia81 · 20/07/2025 10:17

EleanorMc67 · 20/07/2025 01:58

So much misinformation about ivy here - I'm amazed! Speaking as a Landscape Architect & garden designer, I've been planting it in projects for over thirty years & it will not cause any problems IF IT IS MAINTAINED PROPERLY - which is the same for any relatively vigorous plant in your garden.

Generally speaking the species (Hedera helix aka English Ivy) grows fastest, but there are many cultivars that are much slower-growing & more ornamental eg Glacier, which is variegated. Ivy, contrary to what some posters have said, is brilliant for wildlife - it flowers in autumn when insects find it a great late source of nectar, & birds love its berries, which are very high in nutrients. It also allows insects to hibernate.

It will only damage walls if they are already cracked or in poor condition - if your masonry is sound it will not cause damage, & in fact studies show it generally protects walls. Whereas over-forceful stripping of ivy from house or garden walls actually causes damage! Ditto ivy will only damage tiles on roofs etc if left completely unchecked.

The OP's ivy is on a fence. Ivy will not "rot" a standard timber fence or trellis - most cheap fencing will start to fall apart within 20 years anyway. If the fence isn't close-boarded then there's a possibility that some stems growing through will thicken with age & could warp the fence. However, checking & trimming it once or twice a year will prevent that, & also keep it from overhanging into your (anally retentive ..!!) neighbours' garden. That's all - no more effort than trimming a hedge twice a year, & an awful lot less than mowing lawns!!

And if you don't believe me, maybe you'll listen to the Royal Horticultural Society ...?!! Maybe, OP, you could send this article to your neighbours ... 😁

https://www.rhs.org.uk/prevention-protection/ivy-on-buildings

Great post!

Da1ryQu33n · 20/07/2025 10:17

Peekaboooooo · 20/07/2025 09:56

This is how the fence is looking. The bits of ivy on the ground are just the bits that have been cut.

It’s absolutely fine.

TranceNation · 20/07/2025 10:20

I could perhaps see where neighbour is coming from if the ivy was climbing the wall of the house onto their wall as ivy can damage the pointing in walls but over a fence? Meh neighbour can just trim their side of the fence if it bothers them that much.

thinklagoon · 20/07/2025 10:27

caringcarer · 20/07/2025 09:35

There shouldn't be any ivy poking through their side. Ivy grows extremely quickly so you need to either remove it from that fence or trim it each week to stop ANY going into next door. If this retired couple take pride in their garden why should they have your weeds growing through.

Ivy isn’t a weed and gardens are living things – the only way to stop gardens affecting each other is into have completely sterile paved-over gardens. Gardens will always blow seeds into other gardens, roots will creep through, tree branches grow over boundaries. Nature doesn’t care. It’s up to gardeners to cut back what’s encroaching, not for OP to not have ivy. The neighbours can offer OP the ivy trimmings if they like.

You can take pride in your garden and have ivy and have weeds! It’s a very Mr and Mrs Dursley, ‘suburban lawn trimmed with a ruler’ to assume pride = neatly trimmed, weed-free, anti-nature garden.

SuburbanSprawl · 20/07/2025 10:29

Peekaboooooo · 19/07/2025 20:50

@TY78910 the only thing I can think is that our children can be a bit loud and excitable when they're playing in the garden. Only this time of year and only for an hour or two each day interspersed with being inside. But we always tell them to be quiet if it gets too loud or we bring them in if it gets too much. And tbh, their dog barks quite a bit too if we go in our garden so it's not just noise from our side.

But if it was to do with that, they can just say! So I'm not sure.

I just don't know if it's because they're an older couple with too much time on their hands.

Speaking as one of 'an older couple', we're delighted to hear next-door's kids laughing and shouting and generally being kids. However, we'd be very unhappy about ivy. The stuff is destructive and invasive, and you have a responsibility to keep it strictly on your side of the fence.

Balls coming over - no problem.Stray spray from kids' water guns - fine with that. Barbecues and music into the small hours once in a while - we're not bothered.

Ivy? Nah. Stop it. Now.

Da1ryQu33n · 20/07/2025 10:40

SuburbanSprawl · 20/07/2025 10:29

Speaking as one of 'an older couple', we're delighted to hear next-door's kids laughing and shouting and generally being kids. However, we'd be very unhappy about ivy. The stuff is destructive and invasive, and you have a responsibility to keep it strictly on your side of the fence.

Balls coming over - no problem.Stray spray from kids' water guns - fine with that. Barbecues and music into the small hours once in a while - we're not bothered.

Ivy? Nah. Stop it. Now.

She has. See pic.Gardens aren’t sterile zones. Undesirable plants( to some) are going to poke through. If you want to completely eradicate that buy a garden with no boundaries or wildlife onto other properties.

SuburbanSprawl · 20/07/2025 10:46

Da1ryQu33n · 20/07/2025 10:40

She has. See pic.Gardens aren’t sterile zones. Undesirable plants( to some) are going to poke through. If you want to completely eradicate that buy a garden with no boundaries or wildlife onto other properties.

...yes, miss. Sorry, miss...

hididdlyho · 20/07/2025 10:47

Honestly, from your photo it doesn't look bad at all. I don't like Ivy and my neighbour has loads of which grows over into my garden. It took the paint off my wall, which is a bit annoying. I'll repaint it, then make sure I'm more on top of cutting it back, it wouldn't be something I'd want to keep on about and fall out with my neighbours over. They both work and have young kids, so I assume tending to a garden is understandably quite low on their list of priorities at this stage in life.

It does sound like they have time on their hands and have fixated on something minor to get continuously annoyed about. My other neighbour is also like this, she watches out of her window (she's actually told me this before!) and rushes out into her garden when she spots me to tell me how I should be holding a hedge trimmer or something equally ridiculous. If your neighbours are anything like her, you'll cut back the Ivy more often to placate them, then they'll moan you don't cut stripes in your lawn or something daft. It's a control thing, their way of doing things is right and people who like to garden differently are wrong.

caringcarer · 20/07/2025 11:17

SuburbanSprawl · 20/07/2025 10:29

Speaking as one of 'an older couple', we're delighted to hear next-door's kids laughing and shouting and generally being kids. However, we'd be very unhappy about ivy. The stuff is destructive and invasive, and you have a responsibility to keep it strictly on your side of the fence.

Balls coming over - no problem.Stray spray from kids' water guns - fine with that. Barbecues and music into the small hours once in a while - we're not bothered.

Ivy? Nah. Stop it. Now.

My views exactly too. I like hearing next door have their grandkids over for a BBQ. It reminds me of when my own DC were little. Ivy I'd not be happy about and it grows so quickly and takes over a fence in no time.

maudelovesharold · 20/07/2025 11:22

I just don't know if it's because they're an older couple with too much time on their hands.

Yes, of course, that’ll be it! 🙄
How bloody patronising! Of course life, its problems, trials and tribulations, involvement with family, housework, shopping, cooking, volunteering, even paid work 😮all stop once you hit retirement age. There you are, twiddling your thumbs, scanning the horizon for the next molehill you can fashion into a mountain. Wait till you’re ‘older’ op. I hope life is as easy for you as you seem to think it’s going to be.

MelOfTheRoses · 20/07/2025 11:27

EleanorMc67 · 20/07/2025 01:58

So much misinformation about ivy here - I'm amazed! Speaking as a Landscape Architect & garden designer, I've been planting it in projects for over thirty years & it will not cause any problems IF IT IS MAINTAINED PROPERLY - which is the same for any relatively vigorous plant in your garden.

Generally speaking the species (Hedera helix aka English Ivy) grows fastest, but there are many cultivars that are much slower-growing & more ornamental eg Glacier, which is variegated. Ivy, contrary to what some posters have said, is brilliant for wildlife - it flowers in autumn when insects find it a great late source of nectar, & birds love its berries, which are very high in nutrients. It also allows insects to hibernate.

It will only damage walls if they are already cracked or in poor condition - if your masonry is sound it will not cause damage, & in fact studies show it generally protects walls. Whereas over-forceful stripping of ivy from house or garden walls actually causes damage! Ditto ivy will only damage tiles on roofs etc if left completely unchecked.

The OP's ivy is on a fence. Ivy will not "rot" a standard timber fence or trellis - most cheap fencing will start to fall apart within 20 years anyway. If the fence isn't close-boarded then there's a possibility that some stems growing through will thicken with age & could warp the fence. However, checking & trimming it once or twice a year will prevent that, & also keep it from overhanging into your (anally retentive ..!!) neighbours' garden. That's all - no more effort than trimming a hedge twice a year, & an awful lot less than mowing lawns!!

And if you don't believe me, maybe you'll listen to the Royal Horticultural Society ...?!! Maybe, OP, you could send this article to your neighbours ... 😁

https://www.rhs.org.uk/prevention-protection/ivy-on-buildings

Thank you.

We have ivy growing on the house, probably since it was built in the 1980s, and the house is still standing, no problems.

It is cut back, like any other plant would be, every year.

We also have Boston Ivy, which looked cute when we moved in, although I wish we had removed it then. It is rampant and loses huge leaves every autumn. We just have to be ruthless with its pruning.