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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To invite the grammar and language pedants to share their pet peeves?

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AlertCat · 19/07/2025 14:33

AIBU to feel annoyed when I see people say Slither instead of sliver? It was even in a book I read recently. A slither of cake. No! That makes no sense, unless the cake’s been trodden into the carpet!

Also see: step foot in instead of set foot in

There’s plenty of others but those will do for now.

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Wonmoretime · 20/07/2025 09:04

My pet peeve is hearing drawing pronounced as drorring...NO, it's drawing!
Why is that so difficult to say?

Beachtastic · 20/07/2025 09:08

ErrolTheDragon · 20/07/2025 08:55

Worse, I’m a scientific software developer so I can do chemical pedantry as well.Grin
And we have to conform to standard American English for our documentation etc, which is more pedantic on some matters than British English.

So that will give you a whole extra dimension of misused apostrophes (instead of prime marks in chemical names)... 🤓

MasterBeth · 20/07/2025 09:10

Masmavi · 20/07/2025 00:07

Then use of ‘up’ where it’s either unnecessary or just plain wrong. My kids have started saying ‘search up X’ on the internet. Noooooo, what’s wrong with ‘search FOR?’! And ‘level up’ as a verb, meaning to improve/get better at something. We have at least two words/phrases tor this!! No need for a new one!!

No need for a new one!!

This shows a basic understanding of how language and culture evolve.

Every word and phrase you use was once a new one, replacing an older, familiar one. Language isn't going to stop evolving because you think the lexicon you use now is sufficient.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/07/2025 09:11

It’s absolutely everywhere now, but ‘there is’ with a plural really irritates me.

ErrolTheDragon · 20/07/2025 09:12

ItsFineReally · 20/07/2025 08:42

That one is a lost cause; even the OED have included its use as an intensifier in its definition.

I like to think native speakers can understand the usage and nuance of both literally and figuratively. I wonder, though, how people learning English feel when told about this word which has two meanings; one being literally the opposite of the other.

English has a fair few contranyms, this wiki page has some examples from other languages

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contronym

DontbesorrybeGiles · 20/07/2025 09:12

Stood/sat instead of standing/sitting. Most people I know do this.

ItsFineReally · 20/07/2025 09:14

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2025 16:47

There seems to be a weird thing over plurals in some places that jars. Usually when you can treat a group as a single entity. E.g. "Manchester United are a football team based in the UK" to my ears sounds correct. "Manchester United is a football team based in the UK" doesn't. I guess there could be a very subtle rule at play, but blessed if I know it.

It's a shame we stopped bothering with genders in English. We lost a whole battlefield there

Sometimes I think what sounds best is a good rule of thumb. Data is plural (datum being the singular) but I wouldn't say 'the data show...' because it jars.

Continuing the plural vs singular theme, I previously worked in consulting. My team would write reports where the house style was to use Management (capitalised) in the singular. Having to trawl through and correct 'Management have provided' to 'Management has provided' or 'Management are considering' to 'Management is considering'... shows how either the plural or singular would come more naturally to some people on the project than others.

Sharptonguedwoman · 20/07/2025 09:15

PoliteBee · 19/07/2025 14:43

People not using past tense to describe things from the past.

Oh yes! ‘I text him’ instead of texted. Makes my teeth hurt.

DuckieDodgyHedgyPiggy · 20/07/2025 09:19

Bikergran · 20/07/2025 09:03

Perhaps they were correcting one other person, not a lot of "others".

That would be another's, then.

MrsGusset · 20/07/2025 09:19

honeylulu · 19/07/2025 17:38

Has anyone noticed the fairly recent substitution of "momentarily" to replace "in a moment" or " shortly"? Hopefully I'm not wrong but I always understood "momentarily" to refer to something that occurred briefly and temporarily.

So "the doctor will be with you momentarily" should mean the doctor will pop into the room for a few seconds. But now more likely infers that the doctor will enter the room and start the appointment soon.

In American usage momentarily means very soon.

In UK usage it means for a very short period of time.

I became aware of this difference in a rather disturbing way when travelling on a US airline. Immediately prior to take-off the Captain announced that “we expect to be airborn momentarily.”

ItsFineReally · 20/07/2025 09:19

CurlyhairedAssassin · 19/07/2025 16:59

I'm really risk adverse. I'm not adverse to the idea.

Can't actually speak when I think of this one....it's all over the place on MN.

This has reminded me of a personal pet peeve.

A colleague frequently uses adversity to refer to an adverse result. For example, if profit margin is adverse to budget he might write 'the margin adversity is due to a one-off cost in the month'.

DuckieDodgyHedgyPiggy · 20/07/2025 09:24

I would like to hear 'privacy' pronounced correctly as priv-acy, rather than pry-vacy. Urgh!
Also, schedule is pronounced as shed-ule in BrE. Skedule is US. I have to admit I was guilty of this when I worked in travel. None of us knew how 'scheduled' flights should be pronounced. But I learnt how from Ian Hislop, who had a moan about it on HIGNFY.

Charabanc · 20/07/2025 09:24

Chat about acronyms has made me think of another one:

Calling initials acronyms. It's only an acronym if you can say it as a word.

SCUBA = acronym
RSVP = initialisation/initials

ItsFineReally · 20/07/2025 09:28

user1471516498 · 19/07/2025 17:55

"A myriad of" drives me crazy.

Similarly, comprising of.

DuckieDodgyHedgyPiggy · 20/07/2025 09:29

This thread has been so cathartic! It's great to be able to have a whinge in a safe space 😉. Can I whinge that WHINGE is not an accepted word in the New York Times Spelling Bee? They don't accept perfectly ordinary words (to us) and have some weird and obscure ones (to us). Eg. tony as an adjective. .

ErrolTheDragon · 20/07/2025 09:31

Beachtastic · 20/07/2025 09:08

So that will give you a whole extra dimension of misused apostrophes (instead of prime marks in chemical names)... 🤓

Not really, tbh. Accuracy in such things isn’t pedantry, it really matters!

Floatlikeafeather2 · 20/07/2025 09:34

Mumtobabyhavoc · 20/07/2025 04:00

Actually, the Americans were influenced by the Dutch, not the French:

"the United States and Canada, the term "cookie" is used for what the British call "biscuits." This is because the word "cookie" was introduced to the English language in the 18th century by Dutch immigrants to America, and it became the dominant term for sweet, flat baked goods in these regions. In the UK, "biscuit" refers to a wider range of baked goods, including what Americans call "crackers" and "cookies".

Here's a more detailed explanation:
Dutch Influence:
The word "cookie" comes from the Dutch word "koekje," which means "little cake".

American Adoption:
When Dutch settlers came to America, they brought their language and culinary traditions, including the word "koekje." This word was anglicized to "cookie" and became the standard term for what the British call "biscuits".

British Usage:
In the UK, "biscuit" refers to a broader category of baked goods, including both what Americans call "cookies" and "crackers".

Regional Differences:
Even within the UK, there are regional variations. In Scotland, "cookie" can also refer to a plain bun, according to Oxford Reference.

"Cookie" in Britain:
While "cookie" is primarily used in the US and Canada, it is also used in Britain to refer to a larger, softer, and chewier biscuit, often with chocolate chips or other chunky toppings

That's all interesting stuff, thank you. But my point still stands. Biscuit means "twice cooked". The point of them being cooked twice was to make them crisp and crunchy, quite the opposite to a "biscuit" in the States. For what it's worth, home cooks in Britain tend to make cookies rather than true biscuits, because biscuit making is a specialised technique. We buy biscuits and make cookies.

SerendipityJane · 20/07/2025 09:34

Charabanc · 20/07/2025 09:24

Chat about acronyms has made me think of another one:

Calling initials acronyms. It's only an acronym if you can say it as a word.

SCUBA = acronym
RSVP = initialisation/initials

What about "SQL" = "Sequel" ?

ItsFineReally · 20/07/2025 09:35

HonoriaBulstrode · 19/07/2025 18:42

Unchartered territory/unchartered waters.

No, it's uncharted - meaning it's not on a nautical chart or map, that is it's unexplored.

Anyone who makes this error can never have read Arthur Ransome.

Does this count as a Mandela effect as I was convinced I'd always read it as unchartered? And no, I haven't read Arthur Ransome.

YourFairCyanReader · 20/07/2025 09:37

Online posters writing, 'Here Here' to show they agree with something. It's 'Hear, hear'!

On estate agents: writing 'Comprising of...' instead of the perfectly adequate 'Comprising'.

Using 'train station' instead of 'railway station'; even the BBC have started doing this. The station is on the railway, not the train.

Using 'decimated' to indicate something being utterly destroyed used to irritate me, as it originally meant to reduce by 10%, but I've let that go now.

My current grave concern for the English language is the trend for Adjective-Ness. We have many lovely nouns to describe qualities, and (I assume due to people not having the vocabulary) they are being erased and replaced with the adjective with 'ness' on the end.

Examples are:
Humbleness instead of Humility
Braveness instead of Courage
Wiseness instead of Wisdom
Curiousness instead of Curiosity

All heard on the radio recently. How long before it's She has patientness with people, He shows honestness at all times, They had great loyalness?

Please join me in this fight!

Beachtastic · 20/07/2025 09:39

ErrolTheDragon · 20/07/2025 09:31

Not really, tbh. Accuracy in such things isn’t pedantry, it really matters!

I agree... I meant a whole extra dimension of fliching at (and fixing) the wrong use of apostrophes, not just "grocer's potato's"!

ItsFineReally · 20/07/2025 09:40

freerangethighs · 19/07/2025 18:53

I've been noticing dangling modifiers a lot recently, even in "formal" settings like books from established publishers and mainstream media.

The fourth largest party in the UK Parliament, veteran politician John Swinney became Leader for the second time in 2024.

A country of unsurpassed natural beauty, the author sets out on an epic road trip around New Zealand.

Topped with mounds of whipped cream, hot fudge sauce, and chopped nuts, I love a traditional American ice cream sundae!

Oops. I'm definitely guilty of dangling my modifiers. Sorry about that!

Internaut · 20/07/2025 09:42

His when you mean he's - e.g. his going to work.. Surely people work out that you wouldn't say shis for she is?

ItsFineReally · 20/07/2025 09:44

prelovedusername · 19/07/2025 20:01

Bit niche this one, but renumeration instead of remuneration. You’d be surprised how often it comes up in a particular context.

I can understand this one though. It feels like renumeration should be correct.

Charabanc · 20/07/2025 09:45

SerendipityJane · 20/07/2025 09:34

What about "SQL" = "Sequel" ?

If that's how it's said, then it's an acronym. As you're saying it as a word, not just listing the letters..

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