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To be pretty annoyed/creeped out by this incoming internet age verification thing

179 replies

Fragmentedbrain · 16/07/2025 18:11

Kids are as good as anyone at VPNs. It's just going to open adults up to blackmail and state control.

Also if you don't want your kids looking at adult material maybe don't let them have a smartphone until they're 16.

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orwellwasright2025 · 18/07/2025 02:28

Frostiesflakes · 18/07/2025 01:57

Oh I agree it’s never been about protecting kids
the government couldn’t care less about kids
they never have and never will
its just that think of the kids and stop the porn looks & sounds much better to the general public

than we want to know everything you are up to so we can throw you in jail if you dare to disagree with us

if they said this then the government would he out on their ass quicker than you could show a bare ass

but at the moment you can get around it with a VPN that’s not to say that won’t change

Agree - and unfortunately they have already started making inroads into preventing VPNS from being useful.

I was just talking to my husband about my future plans. I will be ditching everything with Google, stop using Gmail and using only Proton mail, I will pay for an upgrade too. I will use safer browsing sites, Brave is ok, but will look into that. I will continue using my VPN where I can. I will not sign up for or continue to use any sites that insist upon a video of my face (as some have already started to do). I will be using the VPN on all my devices, not just my tablet/computer as I currently do. I will look into the least intrusive mobile phones, I already have a tech wizard friend researching that, and if necessary will go back to using a brick, if I can find one that doesn't track movements, comments etc.

The only place I probably can't get out of it is when banks start to insist on biometrics/videos - as they will. Aside from that, I will go out of my way not to let any government link up comments like this with me in real life, for as long as I can, and hope the public wakes up to itself sooner rather than later.

AutumnFog · 18/07/2025 09:21

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/07/2025 14:16

There is a fairly significant difference between security services monitoring people who are already a concern, the illegal content they access, and spaces where dangerous people and groups coalesce and exchange ideas or formulate plans, and what we have right now which is a reactionary, authoritarian government censoring and monitoring people who wish to access content which is not only perfectly legal, but by use of a medium which is also perfectly legal.

Starmer's Labour are already abusing anti-terror legislation to attempt to silence any group that causes potential embarrassment to the State, we really shouldn't be encouraging them to begin censoring legal content on the internet because that will inevitably lead to a China-like situation where anything remotely critical of the State is then considered fair game for blocking. Thankfully ISP's largely want no part of State internet censorship because any who comply stand to lose significant custom compared to those who resist, and we can still make use of VPNs, however, once UK Government figures out what VPNs are actually about I suspect they'll embark on a crusade against those as well.

Don't you think it's about time nudity and sex stopped being legal content?
Once it's on the Internet the individual has no way of taking it down. Therefore there is no way of knowing if the person still gives consent, or whether they even initially did. There's laws around revenge porn when reported, but no laws around the insane amount of intimate images and videos online.

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/07/2025 10:23

orwellwasright2025 · 17/07/2025 22:32

They're going to ask for a video of your face, with you moving and talking. Some places have already started.

Hopefully that'll cut down on the number of bots and trolls.Grin

GreenGully · 18/07/2025 13:33

SerendipityJane · 17/07/2025 17:47

The radio silence about motives or how these men knew so much about Kier to the point of burning a car he had sold! is all rather fishy.

Probably more because it's unremarkable. There is very little that can't be winkled out from publicly available information if you know what you are doing and are prepared to pay a bit. All it takes is a few terabytes to store the incessant stream of data leaks, a bit of analytics and you could divine a lot from little. These days it's probably easier to find out more about people who have little or no online presence compared to people who live life online 😁

It's unremarkable that 3 male 'models' were setting fire to the PMs property? Ok.

MischiefandMayhemManaged · 18/07/2025 14:43

Quite frankley I don't want to have to put my credit card details all over the internet in order to be "allowed" to access anything our esteemed government deems "adult?"

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/07/2025 15:16

You dont have to, it's not compulsory.🤷‍♀️

SerendipityJane · 18/07/2025 15:38

GreenGully · 18/07/2025 13:33

It's unremarkable that 3 male 'models' were setting fire to the PMs property? Ok.

Stranger things happen at sea.

Malvaceae · 18/07/2025 16:42

MischiefandMayhemManaged · 18/07/2025 14:43

Quite frankley I don't want to have to put my credit card details all over the internet in order to be "allowed" to access anything our esteemed government deems "adult?"

Why would your credit card details be ‘all over’ the internet?

Do you:
-shop online for clothes or food
-make reservations at restaurants, hotels or air b and b
-book flights
-book concert tickets
-book activities for children online

You give your credit card details every time you do that. What’s the difference?

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/07/2025 16:44

GreenGully · 18/07/2025 13:33

It's unremarkable that 3 male 'models' were setting fire to the PMs property? Ok.

You think they were acting for a foreign power?

SerendipityJane · 18/07/2025 17:01

Malvaceae · 18/07/2025 16:42

Why would your credit card details be ‘all over’ the internet?

Do you:
-shop online for clothes or food
-make reservations at restaurants, hotels or air b and b
-book flights
-book concert tickets
-book activities for children online

You give your credit card details every time you do that. What’s the difference?

In theory PCI-DSS standards make using cards on the internet safe. Card details should never be stored, and unique hashes generated for each transaction (or series of transactions if you are subscribing).

Of course whether the company you are dealing with is actually enforcing these standards is another matter. In theory they should be subject to regular independent audits to make sure they are maintaining the correct levels of security.

However if the UKs very own MoD lacks the basic competence to keep an above-top-secret list of spies and agents safe, then I would suggest folk adjust their expectations accordingly.

Crikeyalmighty · 18/07/2025 17:08

If these sites are all hunky dory and the users have belief they aren’t from dodgy entities - why are they so nervous about giving their details?? As others have said do they feel that way if buying from Amazon etc ??

Sesma · 18/07/2025 17:31

Malvaceae · 18/07/2025 16:42

Why would your credit card details be ‘all over’ the internet?

Do you:
-shop online for clothes or food
-make reservations at restaurants, hotels or air b and b
-book flights
-book concert tickets
-book activities for children online

You give your credit card details every time you do that. What’s the difference?

A lot of people use Apple Pay to shop online so the card details are not there, I have checked that mine are not left on old shopping sites since the M&S hack.

dynamiccactus · 18/07/2025 17:56

If MN asks for age/ID verification I'll just stop using it. I stopped using it over the cookies thing and only came back because I wanted to know what people were saying about the For Women Scotland judgment.

I don't disagree with it at all for porn sites but it is a bit ridiculous for a site like this.

EasternStandard · 18/07/2025 18:26

dynamiccactus · 18/07/2025 17:56

If MN asks for age/ID verification I'll just stop using it. I stopped using it over the cookies thing and only came back because I wanted to know what people were saying about the For Women Scotland judgment.

I don't disagree with it at all for porn sites but it is a bit ridiculous for a site like this.

What would they be stopping? It’s not just for adults. I mean a 16 year old can vote soon but no to posting on mumsnet

GreenGully · 19/07/2025 15:39

SerendipityJane · 18/07/2025 15:38

Stranger things happen at sea.

Yeah like a married man moving in with a gay man for lockdown...

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/07/2025 17:26

GreenGully · 19/07/2025 15:39

Yeah like a married man moving in with a gay man for lockdown...

What are you wanging on about and how is it relevant to the topic?

OonaStubbs · 19/07/2025 17:41

None of this will work because people will just access sites outside the UK. It's just the government posturing.

Malvaceae · 19/07/2025 18:44

OonaStubbs · 19/07/2025 17:41

None of this will work because people will just access sites outside the UK. It's just the government posturing.

Ooh right, yeah best not bother then.

Let’s not bother with gun restriction either. People will just get hold of them illegally. I also don’t know why there’s a law about selling cigarettes to children. They just nick them, or get an adult to buy them for them. Come to think of it, some people find their way around most laws. Perhaps we shouldn’t have any laws at all.

GingerBeverage · 19/07/2025 20:00

Don’t some weight loss jab sites require live video as evidence of ID?

Why is no one up in arms about that?

Sesma · 19/07/2025 20:29

GingerBeverage · 19/07/2025 20:00

Don’t some weight loss jab sites require live video as evidence of ID?

Why is no one up in arms about that?

That's because they want the jabs and have to prove they are overweight. I also had to do a video to get the NHS app in Covid to use to go on holiday as the vaccines were on there. I wouldn't do one for a forum though because it's not something that I need and wouldn't affect my life if I didn't use it. People also have to do them for some banks. I think it is best to limit this sort of ID check to things you need rather than lots of random websites

GreenGully · 21/07/2025 10:27

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/07/2025 17:26

What are you wanging on about and how is it relevant to the topic?

Follow the thread.

Sesma · 21/07/2025 15:43

I wouldn't age verify for something like BlueSky, isn't it like X, I don't use either anyway but I suppose MN falls under the same umbrella, I can live without that as well.

GingerBeverage · 21/07/2025 15:59

Sesma · 19/07/2025 20:29

That's because they want the jabs and have to prove they are overweight. I also had to do a video to get the NHS app in Covid to use to go on holiday as the vaccines were on there. I wouldn't do one for a forum though because it's not something that I need and wouldn't affect my life if I didn't use it. People also have to do them for some banks. I think it is best to limit this sort of ID check to things you need rather than lots of random websites

They want the jabs, just like adults want the porn?
We have age checks for all sorts of things and no one argues against them, but not pornography. It’s weird.

Crikeyalmighty · 22/07/2025 09:04

@GingerBeverage I think a biggie is an awful lot of partnered up guys in particular are trying to hide the fact they are on it and are worried it will show up ‘somewhere ‘ - leaks etc