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To think that trauma is now a status symbol?

91 replies

DearExpert · 16/07/2025 11:39

It used to be something private. Now it’s a badge of honour - the more complex your trauma, the more valid your opinion. It’s like pain is currency in online spaces. And some people are overdrawing.

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RoseAlone · 16/07/2025 18:07

Only to those who haven't undergone true trauma. It's a very overused term just like narcissist is at the moment, it's in fashion.

As someone who was brought up in an emotionally and psychologically abusive household and has been diagnosed with complex trauma and complex post traumatic stress disorder, it's not something I talk about or would wish on anyone. It's far from a badge of honour when it's real.

RoseAlone · 16/07/2025 18:19

Ella31 · 16/07/2025 15:13

Thanks, @SoloCat being online also allows me to raise funds and spread awareness for our national stillbirth and neonatal death organisation where I'm from. The same organisation helped us organise the funeral, burial and the cuddle cot so that we could see our boys in a good state for as long as possible. We were so numb I couldn't even pick a coffin I was so shocked plus just after an emergency csection. So I plug that organisation as much as I can for other bereaved parents too

I'm so sorry you lost your baby boys, that's completely heartbreaking.

I think that type of undeniable and unconscionable trauma and grief that you have and continue to suffer every second of every day is different to so much of what is stacked under the trauma label these days.

I'm glad that you keep the memories of your babies alive through whatever means works for you. I hope you find peace and healing from the loss of your sons who will always be a huge part of you and your family.

EmpressOfSoreen · 16/07/2025 19:46

vivainsomnia · 16/07/2025 16:42

There's also no rigid trauma scale, as every context + event + personal equation is unique
That's your view. I don't agree. That's the point of this thread. Everyone feeling sorry for themselves and calling things that affect everyone trauma. I call it lack of resilience. Trauma to me is serious abuse, war, starvation etc... not 'poor me my personal equation is unique so I can be traumatised just because I'll hopefully get extra sympathy'.

Call it pure tosh, I call it different opinion!

But it is pure tosh. Experts working on the ground, who help people overcome trauma, state that a trauma event is defined by the response, by the symptoms and not by the severity of the event itself. So your view is incorrect.

vivainsomnia · 16/07/2025 21:12

But it is pure tosh. Experts working on the ground, who help people overcome trauma, state that a trauma event is defined by the response, by the symptoms and not by the severity of the event itself
Yes, and people who severely exaggerate how they respond to events who are not normally traumatic are often diagnosed with mental health disorders.

And you refer to people who help people overcome trauma. We are talking here about people who refer to them experiencing trauma without accessing professional help. The person I mentioned who spoke about the trauma never sought clinical support, and yes, I do know!

MuckFusk · 16/07/2025 21:36

I do think some people exaggerate in order to create an identity as a trauma survivor or get attention. The problem is that you can't make an assumption that somebody is doing it just based on your perception that the event wasn't that traumatic, because trauma is very individual. I have been through PTSD and was surprised by it because I have always been so resilient.

Otoh I have a brother who conveniently bursts into tears, allegedly over trauma, IMO to get out of being accountable for his actions. He gets people to feel sorry for him so they'll let him get away with being an asshole. His trauma isn't fictitious, but he exaggerates his feelings and uses them to manipulate others. Maybe that's the sort of thing you're experiencing with some people OP? It annoys me no end and I avoid my brother.

Didimum · 16/07/2025 21:38

Oh for god’s sake. Leave people alone.

Bitchesbelike · 16/07/2025 21:45

Ella31 · 16/07/2025 13:38

You'd probably hate me, op, I lost my beautiful twin boys 20 months ago at birth. Completely unexpected - one of my boys was stillborn and my second died in my arms 4 days later after life support was removed. I'll never get over it, I've since had my rainbow but some days are very dark. I've only recently started trauma counselling.

I constantly reference them online on my social media. No photos because that's private to me and dh. But I share the stillbirth and neonatal death support group pages a lot for two reasons - number 1 - its a way to keep my boys alive, their memories are sadly limited and there will be no memories made and second, child loss is horrific and awareness and promoting support is key to grieving. I dont want or need people's sympathy, tbh I haven't cared much about what people think since they died. I just wish they were here.

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I’m so sorry for your loss. That sounds genuinely traumatic and devastating

verycloakanddaggers · 16/07/2025 22:06

vivainsomnia · 16/07/2025 16:42

There's also no rigid trauma scale, as every context + event + personal equation is unique
That's your view. I don't agree. That's the point of this thread. Everyone feeling sorry for themselves and calling things that affect everyone trauma. I call it lack of resilience. Trauma to me is serious abuse, war, starvation etc... not 'poor me my personal equation is unique so I can be traumatised just because I'll hopefully get extra sympathy'.

Call it pure tosh, I call it different opinion!

I'm not stating my personal view, I'm just stating the realities around trauma.

You are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone, but opinions don't trump knowledge.

TempestTost · 16/07/2025 22:43

People are defining a lot of things as "trauma" now which aren't. It's part of adoption of psychology language into popular culture.

There have always been woe is me people who try and outdo ohers, but it does seem on the increase. I think it's socially rewarded, people think it gives their opinion weight, or they get positive responses for being brave.

Itallcomesdowntothis · 16/07/2025 23:48

MistressoftheDarkSide · 16/07/2025 13:43

Erm, you do realise clinical depression can be part of the grieving process? I say this waving my four in five years bereavement badges with pride (sarcasm, obviously) mother, partner, father and mother-in-law. And you do realise that alongside grieving can come massive upheaval in every part of your life, while everyone chunters on about it all being just "life" and the opportunity for new beginnings, and that one should have gratitude for the good times etc etc.

Grief is a pretty poor example on its own if you ask me. Oops there I go again, waving those damn badges....

Erm yes I do and let’s not compare grieving …but it doesn’t mean that grieving is ALWAYS clinical depression. Yes it can be but it isn’t automatically - that was the point.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 17/07/2025 08:29

Itallcomesdowntothis · 16/07/2025 23:48

Erm yes I do and let’s not compare grieving …but it doesn’t mean that grieving is ALWAYS clinical depression. Yes it can be but it isn’t automatically - that was the point.

It's a bit of a stupid point because as I said clinical depression CAN follow grieving or be part of the process. And "comparing" grief is an awful lot of the problem in terms of how people go through that process.

Sudden unexpected death is traumatic, whether it's witnessed or not. Expected death is traumatic, there may be months or even years of anticipatory grief. There shouldn't be any hierarchy of grief, and there shouldn't be the rush to suggest that trauma caused by bereavement shows a lack of resilience if people struggle.

I can't imagine losing a child and my heart breaks for the poster upthread who is dealing with that in her own way. She deserves nothing but respect and compassion.

As other posters have said previous life experiences inform how one deals with the next hammer blow, and the next and the next.

The idea that people are using trauma as a badge of honour is a nice and easy way to dismiss and invalidate people, can cause people to become isolated and at higher risk of their trauma being compounded due to losing touch with their normal life.

On a personal note I am embarrassed by having a cascade of things go on in my life, aside from bereavement, that do qualify, objectively as traumatic, because there's a feeling of Jonah or Typhoid Mary that creeps in.

When you haven't seen someone for a while, and every answer you give to "how are you doing" or "been up to much" and you find yourself lying, and saying everything is fine, and deflecting the conversation back to the other person because you've absorbed the message that no-one needs to hear about the latest calamity, and then you hear that well, she must be a bit cold and unbothered by her husband's death because she barely mentioned it, you realise you cannot win.

Trauma can be a singular event or an accumulation of events. CPTSD has alot to do with prolonged periods of having no control or agency, being in an oppressive situation and living in a constant state of fight or flight. Trauma rewires the brain, causes physiological changes and can trigger physical ill health.

I've looked into all this alot because I believe knowledge is power, and while understanding why I obsessively check for risks when I leave the house, it only mitigates it so much because my trauma has left me convinced that I will have everything taken from me, that's what I deserve, and it's my own fault.

And as a PP said, people who allegedly fake trauma, have a problem of their own as well, and I would agree it's exacerbated by modern life and social media to an extent. But snap judgements about what qualifies as trauma, and whose is genuine, and that those speaking about it are attention seekers grind my gears.

Itallcomesdowntothis · 17/07/2025 13:55

Goodness what a post. By starting an argument with calling it a stupid post clearly suggests that this isn’t going to be a reasonable discussion so I will leave it here.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 17/07/2025 14:17

”The idea that people are using trauma as a badge of honour is a nice and easy way to dismiss and invalidate people, can cause people to become isolated and at higher risk of their trauma being compounded due to losing touch with their normal life.”

Such wise and powerful words, @MistressoftheDarkSide.

Isittimeformynapyet · 17/07/2025 18:15

myissuemychoice · 16/07/2025 12:30

Oh the irony 😂 but thanks for proving my point

She didn't prove your point, she disagreed with it.

Oh, and 😂

Isittimeformynapyet · 17/07/2025 18:23

WellPossibly · 16/07/2025 12:42

I can assure you that absolutely no one regards being raped when they were ten as a 'badge of honour'. Or goes about chatting about it at parties or teambuilding icebreakers.

As I predicted.

This thread is not about people who have experienced traumatic things or trying to invalidate them.

hmmimnotsurewhy · 17/07/2025 18:31

Absolutely agree. I think SM has a lot to do with it. I loathe those pathetic posts crying about some trauma. It’s always women too.

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