One million immigrants claiming benefits

[AnxiousApocalypse]

Just been reading the comments sections of the Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail articles about the one million foreigners claiming benefits in the UK. It feels like the final nail in the coffin and a lot of people will feel even more justified in expressing their anger and hate towards immigrants. What happens when Reform win the next general election and come into power? Will people be rounded up en masse and put in detention centres like the USA?

I’ve posted the breakdown which was actually within the daily mail article around 8am this morning up thread

And she doesn't have to work?

My DS was born abroad and gets DLA.
DD was also born abroad and I (dual national) get Child Benefit for both of them.
DS also gets direct payments as a result of his disability.
Daily Mail and Telegraph, froth away. We are all permanent residents (and dual nationals) and I pay taxes, as does DH even though he's retired, he pays taxes on his pension and on our rental income.
My DM was also born abroad and only got her UK citizenship in her 60s though she always worked and paid taxes. Now she gets her pension that she paid into.

Or are we not the sort of "forriners" they love to hate?

Are you OK @AnxiousApocalypse with those born abroad, but now UK citizens, getting this type of benefits? What about people who've paid tax and are now getting a pension or UC? Is that OK?
If we didn't get DLA, and especially direct payments, I probably wouldn't be able to work as many hours and pay as much tax. Would that suit your wishes?

You didn't make any points. You sound like you're reiterating the Daily Mail comments section. You didn't state facts and narrow minded ignorance and intolerance is bigotry. Just own it.

Indeed. And we don’t have ID cards why? Because some liberals inexplicably think that it’s offensive to be asked to prove your identity.

ID cards would solve an awful lot of issues here. If we introduced them, the police could deport so many deliveroo drivers.

I simply can't believe reform will get in at the next election. They are such an unknown quantity. Not unless there is massive voting apathy.

The Conservatives were in power for 14 years - why didn’t they introduce ID cards?

They mean brown ones. Like, in fact, my DD (who is a dual national of the same country I, my DM, and my DS are dual nationals of, but she happens to be mixed ethnicity - my DCs are adopted).
So while it's fine for my DM to pay taxes and get a pension, and my DS to get disability benefits because he's the right colour, heaven forbid my DD should need UC while she starts up her working life or if she ever ends up being a single parent.

Lots of people claim benefits whilst still working eg child benefit. Lots of migrants fill valuable roles in our NHS and other key services and industries e.g. doctors, nurses etc.

Stop trying to conflate “immigrant” with “illegal migrant” and “claiming benefit” with “scrounging freeloaders” and I’ll stop dismissing you as a right wing rage baiter.

OP has posted and run, no?
Such a failure of journalism in this country.

Where are all the british people who claim immigrants are stealing their jobs? Are they ready to take on a low paying job like a cleaner? Didnt think so

PS, Racist attitudes, scaremongering and stereotyping of migrants is what stops the “cohesion” you EDL/BNP/Reform types all claim to want so much!!!

No. She was working cash in hand prior for a short period but that was it

Wow. You really know the ins and outs of her financial situation. How come she claims UC and doesn't have to work? You said she doesn't have a disability.

The problem here is the shadow economy. Bringing in ID cards would go a long way towards tackling that. So do all of you folks screaming about foreign born benefit claimants want ID cards? This foreign born former claimant of CB would be fine with it.

They are legal immigrants with settled status who are entitled to benefits. If anyone is upset about that should ge upset at the gov not the people. There are far more other people on benefits such as british people who have never worked a day in their life for anything.

Well, quite. This EU immigrant has always worked. People wanting to take away my benefits pension are advocating theft.

I wanted to add to this thread because a few years ago I had a house fire and ended up living in tempary housing which was flats everyone’s else in there was a family who where either refugees asylum seekers or imagrants. Every single one was a whole family a mum dad and children in a one bed flat (many did go on to get council housing for there needs) many had horrible stories at first I judged I had lost everything to a fire they where often homes before me but then I decided to change my mindset to the only difference is I was born here and that was just luck and stopped judging and caring what happened and some I am now good friends off.

I’m not going to lie nearly all of them got a house with a garden I got a flat no garden. None of them worked I think two dads were taxi drivers yet they would be given boxes of toys by charity’s and beds and everything . However many where unhappy missed family and had way different struggles to what I was faced with.

I think if you change your mindset it becomes less annoying and you can begin to accept it. This might seem racist and i actually now don’t see a difference in a single mum who chooses to have too many kids without being able to afford a home and a family choosing a better life for there children. Although a young mum with two small kids who had a house fire and I was also being stalked and harrased watching people be offered houses constantly was souls destroying a. Just wanted to add my story of what i experienced in relation to this

As a recent immigrant I first had a plastic BRP which I carried everywhere. I now have a digital evisa with a share code on my phone.
I don't mind sharing that with those in authority if anyone asks. I have to, at immigration. Also given crime rates in London, DH doesn't mind sharing his either if a police officer asks. Not a big deal.

Why do you have to keep renewing it? My husband had two years of no recourse to public funds. He then got leave to remain, which allows access. I think it could be 5 years now but I still don't understand why you keep having to renew and pay thousands each

Are these posts from the Reform party who just post on mumsnet to spread misinformation? Otherwise this seems like such a stupid post. 1m migrants claiming benefits. A migrant could’ve been here for 40years and is now claiming their state pension. Do the articles state how long people have to stay in the country and what they have to pay in order to start claiming things like child benefits?

Is anyone stupid enough to read this and then think, ‘right enough I’m voting Reform’? I guess that’s how Trump got in.

Sounds like an evil way of manipulating ignorant people because then they get to show all of us, don’t they?

Need to understand the detail more.
What benefits are they claiming? The majority of benefit claimants are in work and many might be claiming a state pension they'll have worked hard for. Can't assume everyone on benefits is sitting on the arse all day doing nothing.

How many of those are allowed to work? How many claim top up benefits?

My partner is a "foreigner" who could claim benefits if he needed to. My sister-in-law is a "foreigner" who could do the same. Both have lived here for decades. Both have well paid jobs and pay shitloads of tax. But if either lost their job, or found themselves as a lone parent then why shouldn't they get Jobseekers' Allowance or UC or similar?

There's a problem with workshy people relying on the state, for sure. It takes the piss that some people barely do a day's work in their lives despite being perfectly able to. It takes the piss that people will have multiple kids and expect the state to provide when most families limit the number of kids they have because of cost. That all needs to be clamped down on, not the national or ethnic origin of claimants.

What a meaningless rage baiting headline. How many of those million are pensioners who have lived in the UK for 60 years and paid tax and national insurance their whole lives like my mum? Or working people claiming child benefit or tax free chidlcare? Or people as equally underpaid as British born minimum wage workers who need UC to top up their wages?

Why do people keep lapping this shit up?