One million immigrants claiming benefits

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Just been reading the comments sections of the Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail articles about the one million foreigners claiming benefits in the UK. It feels like the final nail in the coffin and a lot of people will feel even more justified in expressing their anger and hate towards immigrants. What happens when Reform win the next general election and come into power? Will people be rounded up en masse and put in detention centres like the USA?

Fast food business run from asylum seekers hotel.

Rachel Reeves had a costed manifesto apparently. That went out the window within about 48 hours of taking office because of a '22 billion pound black hole' in the public finances that she alleges she didn't know was there, in spite of those finances being public and therefore reasonably transparent, one would have thought.

And look at how many u-turns she's done since, either planned all along as part of the smoke and mirrors stealth plans for future taxation (by obfuscating what constitutes 'working people' ) or because her hand was forced by members of her own party. It turns out that most Labour MPs don't much like Labour Austerity.

The spiv on the unicorn has four years to cost his solutions, for all the good it does us, once any government is elected it changes the goalposts and makes excuses for why it can no longer do exactly as it promised, regardless.

The super rich are why we are all poorer not the immigrants. If you want to hate immigrants, go ahead, but accept it’s because you are racist. We don’t have money in our pockets because the billionaires have siphoned it off. The newspapers and politicians are pushing this agenda of hatred because they too benefit from our distraction.

don't worry - the country will soon be inhabitable with climate change and you might become a refugee yourself or youll just starve or die in a flood and then you wont care about who's getting what benefits (there probably wont be any anyway.)

@Cluborange666

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Oh darling, bless your little heart. How did your A levels go?

I work for a large financial services company and can guarantee each and every employee will be paying every penny via PAYE.

Of course they are. I’d have thought someone working in financial services would understand that the very wealthy aren’t employees being paid via PAYE. We’re not talking about ordinary people here.

lol the immigrant wants less immigration

Billionaires pay people to find loop hole to wrangle their way out of taxes.

While they do that their millionaire ass sucking friends use platforms to spread rumors to the 'middle class' that the 'lower working class' are all 'benefit street' scum who live lives of luxury while not working (not true, most either work but don't get paid enough to live off by the rich bosses who are dodging paying or have life circumstances that hinder them from working such as disabilities).

In turn they then tell those working class folk that they get less benefits because immigrants and asylum seekers are coming to 'steal' part of their their poverty pittance pot.

All to turn us against each other so we fight the person below us who is more vulnerable than ourselves rather than fighting them who are actually robbing us all.

Shit rolls down hill when really we need a 'let them eat cake' moment.

Starmer has a very limited view of who exactly are the ‘working people’ Labour are supposed to support, so it follows that the same limited view of the ‘broadest shoulders’ will apply. He clearly thinks sick and disabled people have fairly broad shoulders if the proposed welfare changes are anything to go by.

This.

But people won’t pay attention to these statistics because of they just see the headlines “1 million immigrants claiming benefits” spouted by the likes of the Daily Mail.

I will give you the example of Steve Rigby who was in City AM this week. He is reportedly the 39th largest tax payer in the UK.

Per the article if the proposed wealth tax were applied to him and his family, the annual value of the tax would be greater than the dividend paid out by his companies. The potential consequence of this is either him/family selling parts of his companies, reducing investment and employment in the companies or that the UK loses it's 39th largest income tax payer as he moves somewhere to avoid selling his family business.

Does this help you better understand that what you propose would not work?

If the Home Office was able to process asylum applications and appeals more quickly, the cost of accommodating asylum seekers would fall.

Things have improved somewhat, but it's still a lengthy process.Asylum application backlog

You are blaming the 1% that pay 29% of tax?

Absolutely mad.

The cost of accommodation of asylum seekers would fall, yes, but as they are all being approved, cost of everythig else is going through the roof.

Yet Labour claimed those with the 'broadest shoulders' are the ones earning over 80k.

It really is a frightening mess and I can't see it getting better. It isn't just the billionaires or the immigrants. It is a combination of things. Too many people needing too many resources. The rich have nothing much to spend their millions on so they snap up all of the housing and then rent it out to people who then have no security. So where is the incentive to work hard, get a good job, pay 40% tax plus paying off student loans to just end up in a not much better situation than doing very little.

One SH*T stirring post at 1.15am with no further posts from the OP and you're all still replying to this???

Don't feed the troll...

The people who hoard more wealth than anyone person could possibly ever need that just sits their stealing more money over interest lowering the pot of everyone while people live and DIE in poverty... abso-fucking-loutly as any one with even basic brain power and common sense should.

You won’t, it’s against the laws of physics.

Anyone would think you’re a frothing Guardian snowflake.

Probably not. Some people are beyond help.

Go on then, who are you talking about? What are they doing? Give one example of your tired, out of date thinking! One solid example!

This really riles me because we have DIRE public services because the UK public cannot and will not accept that THEY have to pay more. Not some mystery bogus baddie ‘the wealthy’ or ‘multinationals’. That’s all bullshit. I work in tax. I’m an active member of the professional tax community. If you want better public services we ALL have to pay for it. There are no magic money trees. Rachel Reeves has shot herself in the foot by saying she won’t increase NICs / VAT / income tax on the ordinary person, because only these tax rises can help us.

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE!!!!

oh, you wouldn’t know them. They go to a different school.

That relates to earners paying income tax specifically.
it does not relate to the top 1% in terms of wealth. The very wealthy pay a far lower percentage in tax than high earning workers.
High earners, who work hard, in the main, pay a v high proportion of income tax.