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Loathe my coworker, can I asked to be separated from her so I don’t lose my shit

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ThePunnyPeachPoet · 15/07/2025 17:57

I have severe endometriosis and it took me and my partner 3 years to get pregnant. Got declined NHS IVF due to partner having a child from previous relationship. In process of saving up for private IVF we got pregnant naturally, which was a miracle as my inside have been essentially decimated by my endometriosis.

Had a bleeding scare at 7 weeks but in the end were assured it was normal and just things “settling” so to speak. Pregnancy was going well. Had a lovely textbook 12-weeks scan, healthy beautiful looking baby. We finally dared to dream we’d actually get a baby.

At 13 weeks pregnant, my coworker who I sat next to every day at work came in on the Monday extremely ill. Constant sniffing, complaining about brain fog and stomach issues, headaches, coughing and sneezing green mucus. I was on edge all day and worried about catching her virus, unfortunately working from home isn’t an option for me (entry level role) and it’s designated desks with no office space so I wasn’t able to ask a manager to let me move away from her. She was coughing, sneezing, not covering her mouth. At several occasions she sneezed without covering her mouth and droplets landed on my work equipment, I saw them. It’s a busy job with constant phone calls so I couldn’t always clean up straight away. I was so on edge and wanted to say something but couldn’t as I’m weak I suppose and she is one of the staff I report to. On the Wednesday she mentioned her daughter who is a nurse worked on a dementia ward and there was an outbreak of a bad virus and she mentioned that her daughter had probably given it to her. I was terrified for my baby. I didn’t want to disclose pregnancy this early as I’m still in probation period.

By the Friday I had the illness and it hit me like a truck. I couldn’t move, felt like I was going to pass out every time I got out of bed and could only eat grapes (I hadn’t had pregnancy aversions prior so I think it was the the virus). Had D+V, brain fog, general weakness. Temperature switching between low and hot. Ended up referred to A&E at one point by 111 for low body temp. Got a home Covid test which did confirm Covid. At one point I had a fall when stood at the sink brushing my teeth. I was like this for a 4 days, I still have the virus now as it’s lingering, it’s been weeks, gradually improving.

On the Sunday after I came down with it (still very ill) I woke up and my sore boobs that I’d had throughout the pregnancy had gone and I had a terrible gut feeling. I miscarried at home on the Monday. I don’t want to go too much into the miscarriage but it was horrendous, I was and still am broken. The staff I saw at the hospital said it could be just one of those things but did say also that my inflammation, infection, blood cell and stress markers were high and someone from the pregnancy unit did confirm it is possible my body couldn’t cope with fighting the virus and maintaining the pregnancy at the same time so may have terminated the pregnancy.

This was all a few weeks ago, I was able to take 2 weeks off work. When I went back the coworker was on annual leave. I saw her for the first time yesterday and I am so so angry at her. I know logically it’s not her fault, and she didn’t know I was pregnant, but I can help but think of her as a selfish scumbag for coming in knowing she was so ill. The real kicker is that she is my superior and the nature of her role means she is allowed to work from home whenever she likes, she chooses to come in for a ocial interaction. The first day I saw her I wanted to throttle her to be honest, of course I wouldn’t actually do anything. When she was ill she was so fucking casual about it, laughing etc about how she feels like death. Other coworkers are carers etc for ill relatives, I can’t help but think she’s fucking vile. I know I’m being irrational because of the miscarriage but I can’t bear her fucking face.

Today I’ve also been struggling to function next to her. I’ve been given extra rest breaks etc by management as they know of my situation but I am genuinely wondering whether to ask if I can be separated from her if I explain why. Would I be considered a bully if I requested this? I’m really struggling.

OP posts:
ruethewhirl · 15/07/2025 19:21

Oh OP, that's heartbreaking, so sorry this happened to you. Agree with pps that this woman was selfish for coming in to work ill, just for the social interaction, when she could have wfh. People who can wfh when ill always should, imo, it just doesn't make any sense to put other people at risk if it can be avoided.

Yutes · 15/07/2025 19:22

The “at least you can get pregnant” isn’t as nice as people think it is.

Im very sorry for your loss OP.

I also lost my baby after contracting Covid and it still makes me feel desperately sad.

It just feels like all the shielding we did at the time was all for nothing.

You are valid in how you feel OP

Aria2015 · 15/07/2025 19:22

This is so heartbreaking to read. I'm so sorry for your loss and I think I'd feel the exact same way as you tbh. It might be irrational and there is of course no evidence to say for sure, but in the absence of any evidence, it's hard for you not to draw the conclusion that you have and as no solid evidence will ever be given to disprove it, looking to move jobs may be the best option.

In the meantime, I'd advise you take more time off. 2 weeks isn't that long for what you've gone through and you're obviously struggling having to be around your colleague. Maybe take a bit more time and explore your options while you are off?

AdoraBell · 15/07/2025 19:23

So sorry for your loss OP

I would look for another job in your situation. I don’t she will change her habits.

AdoraBell · 15/07/2025 19:23

Don’t believe she will change her habits.

HPFA · 15/07/2025 19:24

So sorry for your loss OP.

I presume none of the people on this thread talking about how terrible and selfish the other woman is will not be complaining on other threads about people having no "work ethic" or that sick pay should be cut?

Because I've seen plenty of threads like that.

Holdonforsummer · 15/07/2025 19:24

i’m really sorry for your loss too but you can’t blame this on your co-worker, there are too many variables. People are most infectious before they have symptoms of a virus plus you could have caught this from anyone plus you don’t know this caused your miscarriage. Be angry at the world but you can’t ask to be separated from her at work, no.

AddictAlice · 15/07/2025 19:27

ThePunnyPeachPoet · 15/07/2025 18:15

I don’t know how I’m going to continue in this job because I get such a visceral reaction to her

Of course you do. Even though she didn't know about your pregnancy she behaved in a very inconsiderate way - especially given that she didn't put her hand over her mouth when she sneezed, which is disgusting!

Miscarriage grief is awful. You start to mother the child as soon as you aware of it growing inside you.

I am so sorry. I think you should disclose all to HR and tell them to remind people of personal hygiene - especially if they are ill so that they don't pass on viruses. She could have worn a mask, covered her mouth, washed her hands. More importantly, you could have been moved away from her.

The next time you get pregnant I advise you to disclose it to HR so that they aware of the risks to you and your baby.

Wishing you all the best for the future.

Driftingawaynow · 15/07/2025 19:28

For those saying it’s not the woman’s fault- she could have stayed home, failing that she could have worn a mask, failing that she could have covered her mouth and cleaned her hands. She’s at fault

JeffLynnsGuitar · 15/07/2025 19:34

WhereIsMyJumper · 15/07/2025 19:20

Can I join you please because I am angry on OP’s behalf.
What a selfish fucking woman.

Im so sorry this happened to you OP. If I were you and I thought it would be received well at work, I absolutely would ask to be moved - get some space from her and see how you feel once the hormones/grieving have calmed down.

Im honestly so upset for you

I will join you, too. This made me damn angry just reading it!

OP, I am so sorry for your loss, I can sense your pain through your writing. My bloody boss is one who made a big fuss about never being off sick ( yeah, cos he came in full of germs and infected us all with Covid😡 ) Selfish, stupid people, make me mad.

Sending you love and hope for the future…. If you can get another similar job, go for it. 💐

BeesAndCrumpets · 15/07/2025 19:34

OP, I am so sorry this happened to you, so very sorry.

I agree with you, and I don't believe its wrong to be angry. I would be angry - FURIOUS, in fact. She is a selfish, selfish, awful despicable human, who I know categorically wouldn't have put you in danger on purpose...

This is such a terribly sad story, and I really hope, with all my heart that you go on to have a successful pregnancy and healthy baby in the very near future.

Much love, OP.

SouthLondonMum22 · 15/07/2025 19:40

Driftingawaynow · 15/07/2025 19:28

For those saying it’s not the woman’s fault- she could have stayed home, failing that she could have worn a mask, failing that she could have covered her mouth and cleaned her hands. She’s at fault

She isn't at fault because no one truly knows why OP miscarried. It may have happened even if OP didn't get her illness.

No one actually knows.

Zanatdy · 15/07/2025 19:42

I can understand you’re angry and it’s so very sad what happened to you, but it’s unreasonable to blame your colleague for the loss of your pregnancy. After covid everyone was encouraged to live a normal life which included going to the office. Perhaps she would have worked from home had she known, but she didn’t

Thefaceofboe · 15/07/2025 19:42

I’m so sorry you lost your baby. A similar thing happened to me, got pregnant in 2021, 3 years of trying and lots of issues. Member of staff got covid symptoms and sent off a postal test but came into work while she waited. I then caught Covid and ended up on a drip I was so poorly. Luckily my baby was okay but I’d feel angry too in your situation

❤️

Thewolvesarerunningagain · 15/07/2025 19:42

Oh OP, I am so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you.

In terms of the practicalities of the question you asked in your post, does your workplace have a 'working together/ conflict resolution' scheme that you could ask to be referred to? It goes by different names but it usually involves some work with a mediator / leader to identify conflicts and generate good working practices. Sometimes workplaces provide them, sometimes unions. The advantage for you would be firstly that if available to you, it might help you to handle your (rightly) complex feelings for this colleague in a way that doesn't jeopardise your professional development and secondly, whether it is available or not, asking your boss to refer you and your colleague to such a scheme is both constructive and professional and can't be interpreted as a personal attack or 'case of the vapours', as so many (male dominated) leadership teams tend to like to frame valid human feelings. If the scheme is not available it signals to your bosses that this is not a transient problem which can be ignored but a management issue which they need get into.

Again, I am so very sorry this has happened to you.

mizzzymozzy · 15/07/2025 19:44

The way she behaved with her illness sounds terrible.

While she’s allowed to WFH, you don’t know if she gets snide comments every time she does? (I had a job like this once. Not defending her, but sometimes “wfh optional” isn’t that real.)

It’s beside the point though. I also think it’s time to search for a new role. It’ll be a hard one to get over.

You could tell her? It might make her think twice about coming in when so unwell, and about how she behaves when she’s ill (openly sneezing etc).

OP, again, what a devastating loss. Allow yourself the time to grieve.

MoodyMargaret11 · 15/07/2025 19:44

ThePunnyPeachPoet · 15/07/2025 18:45

She 100% has the option to work from home when she likes, she has told me this in conversation. Her job role is manning a drop-in support chat for lower-level colleagues on Teams. She lives alone and says she comes in for social interaction, she’s very chatty.

i know realistically I could’ve caught the virus anywhere but I am fairly certain it’s her. It went through the dementia unit where her daughter works, she caught it from her daughter, and likey gave it to me.

her manners for a woman in her 50s were shocking. Coughing outwardly like a toddler, sneezing without covering mouth (yes I saw droplets land on my work equipment). Leaving her used tissues on the desk etc, licking crisp flavouring off her fingers etc and then offering to get people drinks from the coffee machine. it was insane, I knew I was going to catch it just by watching her.

I think I will end up sacking the job in, I had wanted to build my career there but any training programmes I could apply for to progress higher would require direct support and 1-1 time with her

Oh OP, I feel so sorry for you - and I think I'd be feeling exactly the same in your shoes. The woman has obviously not done it on purpose But - not WFH when she can is so selfish and inconsiderate. And so is not covering her mouth and coughing right on your desk WTF. I'd be fuming.
It's also unfortunate that you are new at your job and junior level, if you had been senior or there longer, you'd probably have felt more comfortable to say something at the time and request to move desks, but I can understand how that felt tricky, bless you.
When I've been ill with similar symptoms (but not ill enough to call in sick and no option for WFH), first thing I say to all my coworkers is "I'll try to stay away so you dont catch it" or similar - and then keep my distance, unless they said they didn't care. And of course I'd not be spitting right over their desks!

FreddysFingers · 15/07/2025 19:48

She shouldn't have gone into the office when she was ill, irrespective of whether she knew you were pregnant or not. I do think people who have an option to work from home but choose to come in when they are ill are selfish.

YANBU

RattyMcBatty · 15/07/2025 19:49

I'm so sorry OP. How awful. I totally get how you feel about her, as someone who has had three miscarriages and also works opposite someone who insisted on working in the office, refusing to close windows because she was in a draught, when she was obviously and disgustingly sneezing and coughing everywhere and my other colleague was going to be going on a holiday of a lifetime in a week's time and really didn't need to be ill throughout it.

You could ask to be moved, but it might be easier to just find another job. Whoever you ask might not have the same understanding we all do unfortunately.

Ijustwanttobehealthy · 15/07/2025 19:51

YANBU

I hate this woman too just reading your post. I don't know why so many people are making excuses "she didn't know you were pregnant", so what? She knew she was incredibly ill, so she was still out of order to spread it to her work colleagues. I highly doubt she'd have stayed home even had she known OP was pregnant. People like her don't care, they just want the attention of being a 'martyr'.

I'm so sorry this happened to you OP. I suffered a miscarriage after being trapped in a lift inside a supermarket. I had a very bad panic attack whilst inside. The manager refused to call the Lift Engineer to rescue me as the policy said they had to wait X amount of hours first. I overheard him arguing with a female colleague who was begging him to call the engineer. It was awful. I miscarried the following day.

I really do think you should discuss this with HR. You are not unreasonable at all to feel such hatred for her. Make sure you tell them the doctors said it was the virus.

As you wanted to base your career around this new workplace, I would try to work with HR to resolve this for you, rather than leave. But if they are not sympathetic, and won't move you, then I'd look to leave.

I can appreciate it is taking a lot for you not to rip that bitch's head off.

I'm so sorry xxx

ScrambledEggs12 · 15/07/2025 19:51

Yutes · 15/07/2025 19:22

The “at least you can get pregnant” isn’t as nice as people think it is.

Im very sorry for your loss OP.

I also lost my baby after contracting Covid and it still makes me feel desperately sad.

It just feels like all the shielding we did at the time was all for nothing.

You are valid in how you feel OP

Completely agree, saying "at least you know you can get pregnant" was one of the worst things to hear after a miscarriage. I didn't want to know I could get pregnant, I wanted to know I could have a baby!

So sorry for your loss OP x

FestivusMiracle · 15/07/2025 19:52

I understand the irrational anger, but it’s not your colleague’s fault.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 15/07/2025 19:58

When you first noticed she was ill why didn't you fake a migraine or something and go home?

MarySueSaidBoo · 15/07/2025 20:01

I'd be very careful OP if you're still on probation. You've had a period of sick leave and even if management are sympathetic, there comes a point where you start pushing your luck.

I would quietly look for another job, because you're always going to hate this woman. I'm so sorry for your loss.

BeBusyDuck · 15/07/2025 20:05

I just want to start by saying how sorry I am for your loss and I hope you take enough time off to grieve.

But you are being unreasonable in my opinion. I know you said this colleague can work from home but maybe that day she had a meeting, a call she had to take in the office, maybe she left something in the office you can't really know anyone's diary 100% of the time so maybe there was a reason she was in.
The thing is you can't wrap yourself in cotton wool when you are pregnant unfortunately. You will come across people who are ill, that's life. You can't control other people but you can control anything you do.
I understand you are angry because I would be aswell. It's easy for me to sit here and say that but I am being rational. Maybe at the moment you are not being rational and I don't blame you.

Again I'm so sorry for your loss, take time to heal.