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I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

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Purplehat123 · 15/07/2025 13:35

I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

Every time I take my children and our small cavapoo to the park, there’s always someone with an intimidating dog off the lead. Yesterday it was a man with a huge German Shepherd (and I mean huge), a bully breed on a lead, and an Akita off the lead just wandering around.

This is a busy, very suburban park, full of families and young children. And there I am, trying to scoop up my two toddlers, push the pram with the baby, grab the dog, and move away as fast as possible because I am not taking the risk of one of those dogs attacking. And let’s be honest, if something did happen, I’d have to sacrifice my dog to protect my children.

Even the two dogs that were technically on a lead, if they decided to go for another dog or child, there’s no way he could have held them back. They were enormous, powerful breeds.

And don’t get me started on the Akita. It was off-lead, trotting around freely as if that’s totally normal. Akitas were originally bred to guard property and hunt large game, including bears. They are strong, territorial, and known for being aggressive toward other dogs. They can be incredibly unpredictable and are not the type of breed you let wander freely in a public park full of children and pets.

Today it was a woman with a giant Rottweiler off-lead, paying absolutely no attention while she scrolled on her phone. Again, no control, no awareness. Rottweilers were originally bred to drive cattle and guard livestock, and they are incredibly strong, protective dogs. They have a natural guarding instinct, which can easily turn dangerous when not properly controlled. It’s no coincidence that they feature in so many fatal dog attacks, especially involving children. The number of child deaths caused by Rottweilers is horrifying and well-documented. It doesn’t matter how sweet you think your dog is at home but when a dog like that turns, it’s too late to stop it.

Far too many times my own dog, who is a total wimp and literally gets bullied by a chihuahua, has been attacked by dogs whose owners claim, “Oh, they never normally do that.” It’s always after the fact, once the damage is done.

And honestly, it’s the complete lack of awareness that really gets me. You might think your dog is friendly, but when you’re letting it freely wander up to children and other dogs, especially massive, powerful breeds, it’s terrifying. It might not scare you, but to everyone else, it’s incredibly intimidating.

I love dogs. I grew up with them. But this constant anxiety when I take my children out is exhausting. I shouldn’t have to be on high alert every time we go to the park because someone refuses to take basic responsibility for an animal that could cause serious harm.

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beachcitygirl · 15/07/2025 15:49

@Bridport the law is clear. Reasonable, proportionate physical response is legal.
what is actually illegal is an owner who doesn’t have control over a dog who bites or scratches or harms and can be sued and in some cases the dog can be destroyed.
I could have called police on the dog and woman as I was bleeding. I assumed she would prefer to get her dog home than be sued or have the dog destroyed.

Cosyblankets · 15/07/2025 15:50

Not one of these dogs approached you.
Not one of them seemed to be disturbing anyone.
They were just there.
They are not the problem.
You say your dog has been attacked many times. How many? And when you say attacked what do you mean? I've had dogs for many years and I go to the park pretty much every day. I can't honestly say I've ever witnessed an attack as such. A bit of a scuffle when play has got out of hand on one or two occasions but your post reads like this is a daily occurrence.
I'm just off to the park now. To walk my off lead dog who has decent recall. I can't honestly say we get lots of dogs coming over to us either. One or two yes now and then but again it's not a daily occurrence.
Maybe two little ones and a dog is too much for you

YourFunnyTiger · 15/07/2025 15:50

I love big dogs. 99% of the ones I meet are great. Smaller dogs are the dickheads in my experience. Also forgot to add on to my already edited post that my mum has a yellow lead as apparently this is widely known as reactive dog.

beachcitygirl · 15/07/2025 15:51

TheGreatDownandOut · 15/07/2025 15:49

Anyone wanna help me turn this thread in to a ‘love for big dog’s thread’ ??

Let’s show some appreciation for the gentle giants we have encountered.

I once saw a woman in a pub beer garden. It was very busy. She had two fully grown Rottweilers and they were absolutely beautiful. Extremely well behaved, clearly comfortable in their surroundings and spent most of the time by her side taking everything in. I asked if I could approach and say hi, she agreed and I fussed them for ages while she told me about how she had trained them.

I know several people who own retired Greyhounds (they’re big dogs, right?) who have the sweetest temperament and wouldn’t harm a fly.

I saw a man walking his GSD the other week in a quiet field, his was so engaged with his dog the entire time and his dog was constantly fixated on his owner, waiting for the next signal or command.

And let’s not forget all the wonderful service dogs the world over that have saved human lives and helped humans live a more fulfilling existence

Big love to all the wonderful, well behaved, gentle giants out there ❤️

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I have a Rottweiler furry family member - he wouldn’t hurt a fly, is on a leash in public. Has recall and good training. ❤️ gentle giants.

if by some twist of nature he pounced on anyone, they would be within their rights to use any proportionate means to get him off.

but
a) he wouldn’t and couldn’t as properly controlled and trained.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 15/07/2025 15:53

Right now OP, all you have complained about is dog breeds you don't like - you haven't suggested that a single one of them was aggressive or out of control.If you were saying that you don't want to see out of control dogs off lead, then I would be in agreement. But to date every single dog bar one that has attacked my (perfectly well behaved and fully trained) service dog have been significantly smaller than him - one cavapoo, two frenchies, and several other breeds that my father used to refer to as "rug rats". The worst of these was from a third frenchie on the lead and tied to a lightweight baby stroller, which when it attacked my dog pulled over the baby landing the child in the middle of its attack. When I reached down to stop it (I am disabled and in a mobility scooter) it latched on to my hand, ripped all the skin off my hand, landing me in hospital and with massive stitching to replace the skin. The owner walked off without a word.

Complain about dogs that are actually causing trouble, but don't judge them based on looks and not on behaviour.

Delphiniumandlupins · 15/07/2025 15:54

I think people should recognise that certain dog breeds are more capable of doing damage than others. Of course training and irresponsible owners are the biggest factors in whether an individual dog is likely to cause an attack. But most of us could fight off a chihuahua or cavapoo and a labrador is less equipped to cause injury than an xl bully. So saying "My rottweiler/cane corso, akita/pit bull wouldn't hurt a fly" is rather missing the point. I have a large, soppy dog and I know he is scarier than a small dog. If we meet an off leash dog I am more wary of bigger dogs and certain breeds.

Bridport · 15/07/2025 15:54

beachcitygirl · 15/07/2025 15:49

@Bridport the law is clear. Reasonable, proportionate physical response is legal.
what is actually illegal is an owner who doesn’t have control over a dog who bites or scratches or harms and can be sued and in some cases the dog can be destroyed.
I could have called police on the dog and woman as I was bleeding. I assumed she would prefer to get her dog home than be sued or have the dog destroyed.

Some kick happy posters on this thread were in no danger. A kick response to a dog just being in the area is not proportionate.

TheGreatDownandOut · 15/07/2025 15:55

beachcitygirl · 15/07/2025 15:51

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I have a Rottweiler furry family member - he wouldn’t hurt a fly, is on a leash in public. Has recall and good training. ❤️ gentle giants.

if by some twist of nature he pounced on anyone, they would be within their rights to use any proportionate means to get him off.

but
a) he wouldn’t and couldn’t as properly controlled and trained.

Big love to your furry family member who wouldn’t harm a fly ❤️
Feel free to post a pic 😉

FumingTRex · 15/07/2025 15:57

Yanbu it seems normal now for people to have zero control of their animals. I’m recovering from an injury, I was out walking recently and a lurcher type dog ran up behind me and jumped up with its paws on my back, nearly pushing me over. It gave me the fright of my life and could have really hurt me because of my injury. The owner said - oh sorry hes just a puppy.

JaneEyre40 · 15/07/2025 15:57

Bridport · 15/07/2025 15:54

Some kick happy posters on this thread were in no danger. A kick response to a dog just being in the area is not proportionate.

🙄 no one said they kicked a dog for being "in the area". Read properly.

LandSharksAnonymous · 15/07/2025 16:00

I think you need to seek some help, OP. You definitely need to build up some resilience because that sort of reaction is not normal.

This time next year, if I don't lose my old girl, I'll have 5 x 40KG Goldies. Going to tell me they're dangerous as well? Or is it okay because they're Golden Retrievers?

There are very few dangerous dogs. What there are lots of, is dangerous owners. That includes people who install their own anxiety into their dogs and make them reactive and fearful - which, if you are not careful, you will end up doing with your dog.

Bridport · 15/07/2025 16:02

JaneEyre40 · 15/07/2025 15:57

🙄 no one said they kicked a dog for being "in the area". Read properly.

Bossy.

MrsMillyFluff · 15/07/2025 16:04

Bridport · 15/07/2025 15:54

Some kick happy posters on this thread were in no danger. A kick response to a dog just being in the area is not proportionate.

I suggest you read my post properly. I said if "a dog was about to go for my leg damn right I'd kick it.". A dachshund was aggressively barking at me the other day and circling me, yet at no point did I kick out. You're making things up to suit your agenda, that people who would kick an aggressive dog away are "violent fantasists" I'm neither violent nor a fantasist.

Delphiniumandlupins · 15/07/2025 16:09

TheGreatDownandOut · 15/07/2025 15:49

Anyone wanna help me turn this thread in to a ‘love for big dog’s thread’ ??

Let’s show some appreciation for the gentle giants we have encountered.

I once saw a woman in a pub beer garden. It was very busy. She had two fully grown Rottweilers and they were absolutely beautiful. Extremely well behaved, clearly comfortable in their surroundings and spent most of the time by her side taking everything in. I asked if I could approach and say hi, she agreed and I fussed them for ages while she told me about how she had trained them.

I know several people who own retired Greyhounds (they’re big dogs, right?) who have the sweetest temperament and wouldn’t harm a fly.

I saw a man walking his GSD the other week in a quiet field, his was so engaged with his dog the entire time and his dog was constantly fixated on his owner, waiting for the next signal or command.

And let’s not forget all the wonderful service dogs the world over that have saved human lives and helped humans live a more fulfilling existence

Big love to all the wonderful, well behaved, gentle giants out there ❤️

I know several people with retired greyhounds, big gentle dogs BUT they don't let them offlead except in enclosed spaces because they're notoriously difficult to train recall and will chase (and catch) rabbits, cats and squirrels. We need to acknowledge that different breeds have different traits and skills that make some more dangerous in certain situations.

NestaArcheron · 15/07/2025 16:09

YABU purely for having a Cavapoo

JengaCupboard · 15/07/2025 16:12

JaneEyre40 · 15/07/2025 15:00

And nothing to suggest they aren't! That's the problem.

If that's your viewpoint (very broad and again, baseless) you're suggesting that all dogs, large and small, must somehow verify their behavioral credentials before being allowed out?

The OP doesn't like large dogs for whatever reason, Which is their prerogative. Other than that, literally nothing else has happened here to warrant any kind of concern.

Ansjovis · 15/07/2025 16:14

Goodideaornot · 15/07/2025 15:25

Dogs in public areas should all be on leads, IMO, except for some designated, fenced off running area

This is the law in Canada. Dogs can only be off lead in designated enclosed areas. I only found out when I commented to my host about it being so refreshing that every dog was on a lead. Here's hoping they bring this law in in the UK, there would be so many benefits.

Swan6 · 15/07/2025 16:15

I have two small dogs age 9
Things have changed so much ,
with people letting aggressive dogs of the lead ,
not watching where their dog is ,it's often miles ahead while they are on their phone .
It's so stressful walking my two dogs now ,every corner there is someone with an off lead dog out of control.
We are good dog owners
But we will never get another dog after these two have passed on
Dog walking is stressful.. people don't give a shit that my dogs are on the lead and .. therefore...obviously .. don't want to be approached
I'm sick to death of hearing ..oh he's friendly..while it causes major stress to my two on the lead and the owner can't even see what's going on they are so far away .
Never again

Btowngirl · 15/07/2025 16:20

NestaArcheron · 15/07/2025 16:09

YABU purely for having a Cavapoo

😂😂😂

LostFuse · 15/07/2025 16:23

On a local Facebook group, there was a random hard man saying a woman would be "catching fists" if her off lead dog attacked his.

beachcitygirl · 15/07/2025 16:25

@Bridport he wasn’t “in the area” he jumped on top of me (I was on a bench reading a book) and he dug his claws in and drew blood when I tried to shake him off and snarled in my face. So I kicked him off.

I was legally & morally within my rights to do so. It was an immediate and proportionate response to unexpected and physical actual harm.
my (to be fair light linen )trousers were cut and my thighs bleeding. I got a fright and pain.

the owner tinkly laughed and says he likes a cuddle. no apology, no concern, no offer of replacing my clothing.
a
tinkly effing laugh. As I said- I’d like to have kicked her. It’s entirely her fault her dog was aggressive, off the lead and untrained and entirely HER fault her dog got hurt and yelped.
poor poor dog. Zero pleasure taken but would I do it again ? In a heartbeat.

Goodideaornot · 15/07/2025 16:25

Ansjovis · 15/07/2025 16:14

This is the law in Canada. Dogs can only be off lead in designated enclosed areas. I only found out when I commented to my host about it being so refreshing that every dog was on a lead. Here's hoping they bring this law in in the UK, there would be so many benefits.

Wouldn’t it be great!

MissDoubleU · 15/07/2025 16:32

What about the dachshund who mauled a baby to death? Jack Russell’s are over represented across the board in bite statistics. Labradors are higher than dobermans on the fatality lists and the dog you are most likely to be bitten by in the UK (besides your own.)

How about just all dogs on leads except for within specifically designated safe dog friendly areas?

Swan6 · 15/07/2025 16:35

It would be amazing if the UK ,passed a law to say all dogs on leads in all parks all areas at all times
Only exception a dog park
That would make walking my two enjoyable again

Sladuf1 · 15/07/2025 16:39

MrsMillyFluff · 15/07/2025 14:57

I'm sick and tired of entitled dog owners. I was walking home from work the other day, when a dachshund ran up to me, off lead, barking aggressively (I find the little yappy dogs are more aggressive than the large breed in my experience) It's owner was walking a golden retriever on lead and shouted to me that the dachshund was friendly (as it was aggressively barking and circling me) try as she might, she couldn't get it to return to her and the retriever then joined in barking and lunging on its lead. I was both terrified and furious! I shouted at her that her dog shouldn't be off lead if it didn't have recall. She replied, "oh he usually does" (?!) I replied that it wouldn't be over by me, barking, if it had recall. Why the hell should I, or anyone else endure this, what if it was a toddler or older person? 😡

Exactly. Why should anyone have to endure that? I had a very similar experience with a Westie not so long ago. I’d been walking in the opposite direction to where the useless owner and his bothersome dog had been. I hadn’t walked anywhere near them or made eye contact. It didn’t matter. The dog ran up to me, barking and circling me. Before I knew it the dog had got in front of me, blocking my path.

The owner was stood on the spot like he was playing stuck in the mud, several metres away and shouting, “[dog’s name] come! Leave! [Dog’s name] treats! Home!” I think he even said, “lay down,” at one point too. The dog wasn’t listening and it was obvious the berk owner had no recall ability whatsoever.
The dog wouldn’t stop barking and growling. I avoided eye contact and turned around so I had my back to it. The bloody thing ran around and got in front of me again.

The owner hadn’t moved from where he was stood and was carrying on with his futile chant: [dog’s name] home! Treats! Leave! etc.” I ended up saying, “sort the dog out/come and get it please.” Owner took his sweet time walking over and as he got closer came out with, “oh doesn’t normally play up.” He tried to carry on a conversation instead of picking the dog up or distracting it, so I cut him off with, “put it on a lead, get some training.”😡

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