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Constance Marten case — I feel the police have some responsibility too

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Siff · 15/07/2025 09:46

I know Constance Marten and her partner made dangerous and illegal choices, and I’m not excusing that — a baby died and that’s heartbreaking. But I can’t stop thinking about the way the case was handled and whether the police have some responsibility in how things unfolded.

As a mum of four who’s struggled mentally after birth, I keep thinking: if I had just given birth, was vulnerable, and felt like the whole world was hunting me down — would I have thought clearly? Probably not. The media coverage was intense, and the police were everywhere. The pressure must have been overwhelming.

I honestly believe the fear created by the police operation pushed them into making more and more desperate and risky decisions to stay hidden. It wasn’t just a search — it felt like a witch hunt. No safeguarding, no attempt to reach her as a vulnerable mother, just a hard push to capture and punish.

I think that approach had consequences. The police must take some responsibility for creating the kind of fear and pressure that led to this tragedy. The way they went about it likely made things worse — not better — for the baby.

It’s easy to say she was selfish or unstable, but mental health in the postnatal period is fragile. People don’t always think rationally when terrified. I just wish there had been more humanity in how it was all handled.
Anyone else feel the same?

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Arran2024 · 16/09/2025 17:55

BeachPebbleWave · 16/09/2025 17:31

I think the judge allowed their behaviour to play out in court so that the world could see them. The revolving door of legal teams, the passing of notes to each other, the constant deliberate delays to the trial, too tired, toothache, the chatting like disruptive teenagers at the back of class, the bemoaning around what time the prison van collected her. Worst of all the deliberate attempt to throw the trial by CM by deliberately announcing his rape conviction to the jury.

Loose Women have been criticised for some of their comments:

Loose Women sparks outrage as panel claims Constance Marten was judged harshly because of SEXISM mol.im/a/15103271 via https://dailym.ai/android

Baital · 16/09/2025 18:10

Arran2024 · 16/09/2025 17:55

Loose Women have been criticised for some of their comments:

Loose Women sparks outrage as panel claims Constance Marten was judged harshly because of SEXISM mol.im/a/15103271 via https://dailym.ai/android

If anything he got a harsher punishment (the extra 4 years before release).

Otherwise they got the same sentence, they were both Victoria's parents, and neither provided for her needs.

Neither showed any remorse. Both tried to disrupt the trial.

Why would she get a lesser sentence? In what way was she scapegoated?

Arran2024 · 16/09/2025 18:17

Baital · 16/09/2025 18:10

If anything he got a harsher punishment (the extra 4 years before release).

Otherwise they got the same sentence, they were both Victoria's parents, and neither provided for her needs.

Neither showed any remorse. Both tried to disrupt the trial.

Why would she get a lesser sentence? In what way was she scapegoated?

So many people assume a mother must have been led astray by her partner. I have two adopted children and their birth mother was the main reason they were removed, but she told everyone it was because of her partner. People assume that would be it.

Allthatwegotisthispalebluedot · 16/09/2025 18:20

Baital · 16/09/2025 18:10

If anything he got a harsher punishment (the extra 4 years before release).

Otherwise they got the same sentence, they were both Victoria's parents, and neither provided for her needs.

Neither showed any remorse. Both tried to disrupt the trial.

Why would she get a lesser sentence? In what way was she scapegoated?

He seems violently abusive but there was no way she wasn’t controlling him in some way. I think they were mutually abusive to each other and both abusive to their children. She reminds me of those women who marry serial killers and are all pleased when they’re banged up so they can’t go out and get the ride from someone else.

I feel like they got the sentence they deserved. I hope they serve all of it, and that their living children are safe and protected from the chaos of their birth family.

Supersimkin7 · 16/09/2025 21:58

The police did brilliantly.

Mark Rape shouldn’t have been out of prison, but when the police tried to catch him Constance Childkiller stopped them.

He won’t be let out now till he’s too old to destroy anyone else. She’s too well known as mad and wicked to attract that many people, not that that will stop her trying.

Supersimkin7 · 16/09/2025 22:01

The baby died of hypothermia not a police notice.

Both parents wore duvet coats.

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