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AIBU to think employers aren’t going nearly far enough with adjustments and that ableist attitudes are still totally normalised?

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coffeeandmycats · 14/07/2025 18:09

I’m honestly so fed up with how “reasonable adjustments” are treated like some kind of special favour or workplace charity. They’re not. They’re a legal duty under the Equality Act, and they exist because without them, disabled people are shut out of employment or slowly squeezed out once they’re in.
Every time someone says “we couldn’t adjust the role” or “it wouldn’t be fair on the team,” what they usually mean is “we didn’t want to deal with it.” And that’s what drives me mad how often laziness, bias or lack of imagination is brushed off as “just being realistic.” That’s not realism. That’s ableism.
Most jobs can be adjusted. If someone can’t do one task but can do everything else why is the answer to push them out, instead of reshuffling the tasks or offering alternatives? We do this all the time in other settings. You wouldn’t chuck a kid out of school because they struggle with stairs. But in work, suddenly job specs are sacred texts.
And now, with the government trying to push more disabled people back into work (often with threats of benefit sanctions), where is the structural support? Employers still get to decide whether something is “reasonable,” even when they’ve shown time and again that they don’t understand or don’t care. That’s not a system that’s a gamble.
We should be encouraging every disabled person denied adjustments to take their employer straight to tribunal. I don’t care if it’s uncomfortable the law needs to be enforced. But also, it shouldn’t have to get that far. There should be an independent ombudsman-style service that employers must subscribe to something that can assess adjustment requests fairly and quickly, without making the disabled person go to war to be heard.
And honestly? If a business can’t afford to make space for disabled people, whether that’s with flexibility, equipment, transport help or task reallocation, then maybe they shouldn’t be in business. If your model only works when everyone is 100% able-bodied, then your model is broken. Shut it down.
AIBU to think we’ve got this totally backwards? That we’re still treating inclusion like a bonus feature instead of a basic requirement? That people who need adjustments are somehow seen as the problem instead of the systems and attitudes around them?
I’m sure this will rub some people the wrong way. Maybe that’s the point.

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twistyizzy · 15/07/2025 16:35

SleeplessInWherever · 15/07/2025 16:33

I’ve asked this already.

If he’s suspended, they’re likely following a disciplinary procedure. Or he’s just on paid leave, gardening leave perhaps. Which is different.

So has he been suspended, and if so - why?

A 5 month suspension is suspicious in itself. What company would want to drag out any disciplinary that long??

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:35

twistyizzy · 15/07/2025 16:35

A 5 month suspension is suspicious in itself. What company would want to drag out any disciplinary that long??

it's a small under 15 person charity. I'm not sure why they are taking so long.

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myplace · 15/07/2025 16:36

Statistically unlikely for so many in your family to be disabled enough to need adjustments, OP.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:36

Gloriia · 15/07/2025 16:34

Tbh walking another barefoot with neuropathy is incredibly risky. People with this condition have reduced feeling and if he injured his feet he'd end uo with infections and maybe amputations. He needs a nice foam sandal.

he has a neural disorder which causes his feet to swell, people just calling it standard neuropathy.

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Digdongdoo · 15/07/2025 16:37

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:35

it's a small under 15 person charity. I'm not sure why they are taking so long.

What else are they supposed to do? They've determined barefoot isn't safe, and he's refusing to wear anything on his feet. He needs to find a larger employer if he wants to be awkward shit.

SleeplessInWherever · 15/07/2025 16:37

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:35

for attending the office without shoes on as the office state it is a health and safety risk

Finally.

Where this actually ends is they dismiss him for not following H&S procedure, with no prior explanation as to why, and then you try for unfair dismissal.

If they’re following the grievance and disciplinary procedure, they must believe they have grounds.

twistyizzy · 15/07/2025 16:37

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:35

it's a small under 15 person charity. I'm not sure why they are taking so long.

Why would they suspend someone wanting RA? It doesn't make sense.
All the RAs I've dealt with have been wrapped up in 3-4 weeks max

Pricelessadvice · 15/07/2025 16:37

You took your employer to court for not allowing you to take extra breaks for anxiety?
Why not accept that the job wasn’t right for you and find a job that you don’t need to take extra breaks from?

As an autistic person who is also partially deaf, I knew I could never work in a bar because I would struggle with the background noise and would not be able to hear the punters. It wouldn’t have been fair for me to take the job and then turn up and demand I have extra breaks throughout the shift to calm myself down.
I chose jobs that were suited to my skills.

There’s reasonable adjustments for disabilities and there’s just being ridiculous.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:37

myplace · 15/07/2025 16:36

Statistically unlikely for so many in your family to be disabled enough to need adjustments, OP.

Actually neurodiversity has a strong genetic factor. Although some of the people who need adjustments are self diagnosed as the NHS waiting list is long

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Gloriia · 15/07/2025 16:37

It is staggering op that one of your relatives requested a chaperone at interview to read questions, was refused so settled for a few thousand. Another worked for a sales firm but couldn't answer the phone due to nerves despite i presume knowing answering the phone was part of the role, so settled. You've helped what 9 relatives settle?

There is a pattern here isn't there.

myplace · 15/07/2025 16:38

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:35

it's a small under 15 person charity. I'm not sure why they are taking so long.

So another charity paying out to your family instead of its purpose? Paying a man who isn’t working? Wait, I thought they put the floor in and he got another job? Or is that someone else, I lose track.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:38

Pricelessadvice · 15/07/2025 16:37

You took your employer to court for not allowing you to take extra breaks for anxiety?
Why not accept that the job wasn’t right for you and find a job that you don’t need to take extra breaks from?

As an autistic person who is also partially deaf, I knew I could never work in a bar because I would struggle with the background noise and would not be able to hear the punters. It wouldn’t have been fair for me to take the job and then turn up and demand I have extra breaks throughout the shift to calm myself down.
I chose jobs that were suited to my skills.

There’s reasonable adjustments for disabilities and there’s just being ridiculous.

I won in court, I was awarded 35k, so no it wasn't ridiculous at all?

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gotmyknickersinatwist · 15/07/2025 16:38

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 10:02

Right, but what you’re describing there isn’t “getting smart” it’s weaponising fake self-diagnosis to undermine legitimate disability rights, and it absolutely is cheeky fuckery, just not in the clever way you think.
If a team is unhappy that a disabled colleague has reasonable adjustments the legal bare minimum to stop them being driven out of work the solution isn’t to gang up, play dress-up as neurodivergent, and throw a tantrum about “fairness.” The solution is to speak to management about workload planning and proper resourcing. Because if one person’s adjustment is genuinely overloading others, that’s not the disabled person’s fault it’s bad management, plain and simple.
And let’s be clear: the Equality Act 2010 allows for disabled people to be treated more favourably than non-disabled people where necessary. That’s not a loophole it’s literally the law. Reasonable adjustments are not perks. They’re not special treatment. They’re legal protection against being pushed out of the workplace for having needs that others don’t.
If the rest of the team “demands the same adjustments” without any qualifying condition, that’s not levelling the playing field that’s trying to break it. It’s disrespectful to disabled people, and it shows exactly why we need the law: because too many people still treat inclusion like a threat to their ego instead of a basic right.
So no, it’s not clever. It’s not funny. And it’s definitely not legal.

But who are you to say what is and isn't fake self-diagnosis?

If people can self-diagnose and claim to have whatever condition without any supporting evidence, who are you to question it?

You've said yourself that most of your family have self diagnosed autism hd ADHD (Today 01:41)

Anyone could call those diagnoses fake, too.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:39

myplace · 15/07/2025 16:38

So another charity paying out to your family instead of its purpose? Paying a man who isn’t working? Wait, I thought they put the floor in and he got another job? Or is that someone else, I lose track.

he worked in job a) who put the floor in, 3 weeks later he left for job b, who accommodated his disability well and there was no issue, and now he works for company c, who suspended him.

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twistyizzy · 15/07/2025 16:39

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:35

it's a small under 15 person charity. I'm not sure why they are taking so long.

So yet another small charity falls victim to your family

Locutus2000 · 15/07/2025 16:39

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 15:55

No he disclosed it the first time he attended the office.

Hmm.

AIBU to think employers aren’t going nearly far enough with adjustments and that ableist attitudes are still totally normalised?
coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:39

gotmyknickersinatwist · 15/07/2025 16:38

But who are you to say what is and isn't fake self-diagnosis?

If people can self-diagnose and claim to have whatever condition without any supporting evidence, who are you to question it?

You've said yourself that most of your family have self diagnosed autism hd ADHD (Today 01:41)

Anyone could call those diagnoses fake, too.

yes but they are genuine

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Digdongdoo · 15/07/2025 16:40

Gloriia · 15/07/2025 16:37

It is staggering op that one of your relatives requested a chaperone at interview to read questions, was refused so settled for a few thousand. Another worked for a sales firm but couldn't answer the phone due to nerves despite i presume knowing answering the phone was part of the role, so settled. You've helped what 9 relatives settle?

There is a pattern here isn't there.

It's clearly the family business. Then they probably all go and work part time at the cat cafe and claim top up benefits.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:40

twistyizzy · 15/07/2025 16:39

So yet another small charity falls victim to your family

all the charity have to do is allow WFH or allow bare feet in the office.

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Gloriia · 15/07/2025 16:40

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:36

he has a neural disorder which causes his feet to swell, people just calling it standard neuropathy.

Whatever. He needs footwear on or he'll end up losing his legs. Just light sandals doesnt need to be lace up shoes.

Digdongdoo · 15/07/2025 16:40

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:39

yes but they are genuine

How do you know which self diagnosis is real or not? How can we tell?

gotmyknickersinatwist · 15/07/2025 16:41

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:39

yes but they are genuine

According to you

Gloriia · 15/07/2025 16:41

Digdongdoo · 15/07/2025 16:40

It's clearly the family business. Then they probably all go and work part time at the cat cafe and claim top up benefits.

Grin

All very sad for those needing genuine adjustments.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:42

Digdongdoo · 15/07/2025 16:40

How do you know which self diagnosis is real or not? How can we tell?

well the fact the judge upheld the complaint for my anxiety and awarded me 35k suggests it was real, I also got it diagnosed after

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SleeplessInWherever · 15/07/2025 16:42

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 16:40

all the charity have to do is allow WFH or allow bare feet in the office.

Before we run out of space.

Please do us all a favour and employ the 6 members of your family that keep taking money from businesses and charities that actually need it for meaningful things.

It’s disgusting, and you should stop.

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