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To go swimming in the sea whilst the kids are in bed?

462 replies

Maezzle · 12/07/2025 18:44

We live by the sea. It is fifteen metres through the garden from the door to the edge of the water. It is a safe place to swim and we are good swimmers.

Are we unreasonable to go for a fifteen minute swim once the kids (preschool) are asleep? They never wake. We would have a friend lined up who would come and babysit if they don't hear from us after half an hour (in case of shark attack or other unforeseen event)!

Basically the only risk is a house fire. We would not have any appliances running and the house would never be more than 30 metres away and in full view. Window open so we'd hear smoke alarm.

I feel like this should be acceptable as it's basically like having a swimming pool in your garden. But for some reason I feel it isn't okay, but I don't know why!

What would you do?

YABU you should be locked up for even thinking of it.
YANBU it's just like a swimming pool, it's fine.

OP posts:
BMW6 · 12/07/2025 19:32

I know, you live in a cave cut into sea cliffs.

Well you're going to do it anyway so why would we bother wasting time arguing the toss?

CheshireCat1 · 12/07/2025 19:32

You know deep down that it’s totally unacceptable to leave young children unattended, regardless of what you’re doing. If you’ve got a babysitter that can come if they don’t hear from you in 30 minutes just ask them to come and babysit before you leave the house.

CountryQueen · 12/07/2025 19:33

Helen483 · 12/07/2025 19:31

That's completely different. Madeleine's parents left 3 small children alone in a hotel room while they went out for dinner - absolutely unforgivable and irresponsible. If they hadn't been middle-class, wealthy and well-connected the other 2 kids would have been taken into care.

As opposed to leaving them alone to go for a leisurely swim leaving the windows open?!

vyvyanne · 12/07/2025 19:33

So. . . .the littlies are asleep in bed, let's go down and swim in the very calm safe 'lagoon'. You can't hear or see anything when you're swimming but we're not going to be more than half an hour. What could possibly go wrong?

MsTamborineMan · 12/07/2025 19:33

LemondrizzleShark · 12/07/2025 19:21

There are some lovely houses right on the beach in Whitstable - link to one. There are probably similar houses in many other seaside towns.

But no OP, I still wouldn’t swim there when your kids are in bed, any more than I would pop to the supermarket.

As someone who's grown up in Whitstable this us exactly the houses I wondered if OP meant 😂But you've got to run up a pebbly beach and over a sea wall get to your DC. And the sea in whitstable is not that safe, definitely not a lagoon.

LemondrizzleShark · 12/07/2025 19:33

JustAnInchident · 12/07/2025 19:28

Close but no cigar, that’s got a back door!

ETA and windows at the back.

Edited

Tada!

My hobby is Rightmove retirement beach house research Grin

yakkity · 12/07/2025 19:34

Maezzle · 12/07/2025 19:02

Because they are both on the same side of the house. There are no windows on the back of the house either.

How are the front and back of your house on the same side of the house? Are you flat people who live in a 2d house?

ToKittyornottoKitty · 12/07/2025 19:34

Helen483 · 12/07/2025 19:31

That's completely different. Madeleine's parents left 3 small children alone in a hotel room while they went out for dinner - absolutely unforgivable and irresponsible. If they hadn't been middle-class, wealthy and well-connected the other 2 kids would have been taken into care.

How is it ‘completely’ different? OP could be middle class and have 3 pre schoolers too. Madeleines parents were coming back to check on them every so often, Op wouldn’t be able to see every angle of the house or inside the house or anything like that. It is as dangerous as what madeleines parents did.

Isittimeformynapyet · 12/07/2025 19:34

Maezzle · 12/07/2025 18:55

Ah yeah okay. I should have predicted that people would think of sea related dangers 🙈 I can't say more without being too outing but it actually is like a swimming pool really. No sharks, no currents, no boats, etc. Think lagoon!

I take the point that you all think this is dangerous.
But just out of interest, would you do the swimming pool in the garden? Or is that too wild as well?

Please don't tell me to think lagoon. Just tell me it's a lagoon! Or don't, if it's not a lagoon.

Ivytheterrible2025 · 12/07/2025 19:34

I would be thinking of all the things that could potentially go wrong.

Before I even got to thinking about sharks etc, I would be thinking about my young child waking up with a bad dream, panicking when realising they are alone, falling down the stairs.....the list is endless.

Tapsthemic · 12/07/2025 19:34

I agree that it’s unwise to both swim at the same time, as tempting as it sounds.

Btw OP I’m obsessed with your dreamy home set up - how did you manage to get a lagoon at the bottom of your garden! I’m well jell x

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 12/07/2025 19:34

MsTamborineMan · 12/07/2025 19:04

Does OP live in a greenhouse? A house with no doors and windows on one side?

A greenhouse would be unbearable in this weather. No wonder OP needs to leave their small children alone to swim in a lagoon!

Imisscoffee2021 · 12/07/2025 19:34

I ADORE swimming, your home sound amazing, I would live semi ambphibiously if I could, I just love to swim.

No way would I and my husband both swim when we had children asleep, simply because freak accidents do happen and what would happen if you both got into difficulty. I'm a strong swimmer and I'm sure you know the waters but it's just not worth even the 0.00001% chance of anything happening. Can you take turns swimming so someone is on dry land with the kiddos?

londongirl5 · 12/07/2025 19:35

Maezzle · 12/07/2025 18:44

We live by the sea. It is fifteen metres through the garden from the door to the edge of the water. It is a safe place to swim and we are good swimmers.

Are we unreasonable to go for a fifteen minute swim once the kids (preschool) are asleep? They never wake. We would have a friend lined up who would come and babysit if they don't hear from us after half an hour (in case of shark attack or other unforeseen event)!

Basically the only risk is a house fire. We would not have any appliances running and the house would never be more than 30 metres away and in full view. Window open so we'd hear smoke alarm.

I feel like this should be acceptable as it's basically like having a swimming pool in your garden. But for some reason I feel it isn't okay, but I don't know why!

What would you do?

YABU you should be locked up for even thinking of it.
YANBU it's just like a swimming pool, it's fine.

I’d be less worried about the sea dangers and more about the dangers of the preschoolers being in the house alone.

JustAnInchident · 12/07/2025 19:35

LemondrizzleShark · 12/07/2025 19:33

Tada!

My hobby is Rightmove retirement beach house research Grin

Oh I am suitably impressed! Might be a bit of a squeeze for op though..! 😂

Whaleandsnail6 · 12/07/2025 19:36

LemondrizzleShark · 12/07/2025 19:33

Tada!

My hobby is Rightmove retirement beach house research Grin

I'm unreasonablely happy that you posted this ..I was way too invested in trying to imagine a house with only doors and windows on one wall and now I have an image 🤣

Redrosesposies · 12/07/2025 19:36

Can i change my vote please? I thought you said it was 15 minutes to the water not 15 metres.
Crack on @Maezzle

OneDayIWillLearn · 12/07/2025 19:37

DiscoNights · 12/07/2025 19:00

Personally I think it’s ok if it really is that close to the house and if the house is properly locked. But I’m sure I’m the only one who thinks it’s ok.

I sort of agree. I probably wouldn’t feel comfortable doing it myself but I certainly wouldn’t criticise anyone else who did. I suspect my OH would be totally fine with it. I think the risk of anything happening is tiny albeit not zero but lots of things in life are not zero risk.

vyvyanne · 12/07/2025 19:37

And the sea in whitstable is not that safe, definitely not a lagoon

Even the bloody cottages aren't safe. Stayed in one where you had to climb a ladder to the bedroom and the only toilet was downstairs. Fuck that for a game of soldiers. No wine for me that night, holiday notwithstanding.

Moved the next day to a hotel and got a refund from the cottage. Nowhere on their website did it mention a bloody ladder.

Richiewoo · 12/07/2025 19:37

Of course its not okay.

Maka21 · 12/07/2025 19:38

15 minutes there, 15-30 minutes to get changed and swim, 15 minutes back. You would leave 2 under 5 year olds for potentially up to an hour by themselves in the house alone?!!

Jumpthewaves · 12/07/2025 19:38

PerfectlyNormalOwlFreeMorning · 12/07/2025 19:24

Do you know how far away 50ft is?

Yes thank you.

namechangetheworld · 12/07/2025 19:39

ToKittyornottoKitty · 12/07/2025 19:34

How is it ‘completely’ different? OP could be middle class and have 3 pre schoolers too. Madeleines parents were coming back to check on them every so often, Op wouldn’t be able to see every angle of the house or inside the house or anything like that. It is as dangerous as what madeleines parents did.

More dangerous, arguably. How many people die swimming in the sea (sorry, a lagoon...) compared to sitting in a restaurant?

Helen483 · 12/07/2025 19:39

Maezzle · 12/07/2025 19:17

Oh my giddy aunt. Not all houses are identikit you know! Some back onto hills, or were built into hills, or face entirely one way because of the weather, or only have one door. There's a lot of variety.

I am not going to go swimming, don't panic.

But now I've asked the question i am fascinated! What are the actual logical differences between say

  • a swimming pool in the garden
  • a swimming pool just outside the garden but with no fence between
  • a small lake
  • a very calm predictable bit of sea/lagoon (no sharks or dangerous jellyfish)
Assuming all are exactly the same distance from the house and all other things are equal. I'm questioning how we assess risk I guess.

I think it's very difficult for us to comment fairly without actually seeing it. And so, obviously, you will have to make your own assessment of risk.

FWIW, I think swimming in the sea (even only 15m away) is very different from swimming in a pool in the back garden.

Questions to ask yourself are:

  • will I hear if one of them cries
  • what if one of them gets out of bed - would I know
  • how long would it take me to swim to shore and then run to the house in an emergency
  • etc (I'm sure you can think of more in this vein)
Cucy · 12/07/2025 19:39

Are we unreasonable

You say ‘we’ like there are 2 of you.

If so, then why can’t you just take in turns.

I would take the bins out or even sit in the garden but there’s no way you would hear your kids crying if you are swimming in the sea.

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