Thread 5: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

Second article in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

Third item in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

Funnily enough, we came out here with a 19-year-old pussycat (Daisy's predecessor) expecting her to have months to live, but the sun seemed to revive her and she spent 3 blissful years basking before she passed away aged 22. She is now buried in the garden, next to a Resistance hero (we are about 5 miles from the Ferme d'Ambel, the place where the Resistance is generally agreed to have started). The garden is next to the cemetery, and he is on the other side of the fence.

So you can spin that as moving countries with a terminally ill cat who then took to walking the grounds and cured her of the terminal for a bit

my grandad was in the resistance - not that he told anyone as it was often frowned upon by the powers that be and he was a very modest man

I'm sure the police aren't happy when a complainant withdraws from a case like this, but no laws were broken so there is nothing they could do about it. I wouldn't necessarily say it is considered ok, but it is not illegal for a thief to repay the money they've stolen and the victim to then withdraw from the prosecution.

Just watched it…At the start Ray seems very wary of GA I thought. There was a surprising (?) absence of warmth between the two. GA does/did feel Ray had faced a terrible injustice & it was as if that might be powering her through any instinct not to warm to Ray/poss even dislike?

Well, it wouldn’t work as well with the heavy-handed analogy between rewilding the land and rewilding Moth, who needs a ‘wild green life, but not stress, or complexity, or problems’.

I mean, so do we all, but my friends who farm, run smallholdings or forage or do rural crafts like drystone walling have just as many problems and complexities as anyone else.

I've just listened to the Observer podcast thing with CH , it's clear she approached Raymoth early on, so they knew throughout the film publicity that this story was facing exposure.

Makes for interesting watching knowing that!

I suspect GA/JI had no inkling at that point though

On the Tangyes - they lived in what became the Glendorgal Hotel if anyone knows it. Great spot on cliffs:

It was late June l, had Chloe/Observer approached Raymoth for their side then?

I thought it took when Ray was on The One Show with Jason. She seemed very uptight, guarded and not even that chuffed at being sat next to JI (crazy!) I watched it live at the time and remember wondering why she agreed to go on and not just send Jason by himself.

Possibly she felt she had to guard her reputation the ‘story’? JI was positively effusive compared to GA. I wonder if The One Show a while before This Morning?

@Daisythepussycat that Resistance connection is excellent and should take up a chapter or so.

I've just been inspired. Why don't we write a collective 'memoir'? We could all contribute anecdotes from assorted camping trips or hikes over the years. We don't even need to work on a title. I mean, obviously it would be called The Viper Path.

My contribution is the time I fell into a gorse bush and spent the next 24 hours picking out gorse needles from the palms of my hands. I'm not sure if gorse actually grows in Cornwall. But, you know, artistic licence and all that.

@Aspanielstolemysanity I suspect GA/JI had no inkling at that point though.

I remember listening to Jason on Table Manners podcast talking about this. He was asked why R&M didn't just stay with friends and said because nobody would put them up but then very quickly changed it to R&M didn't want to ask because they were embarrassed.

It was probably just a misspeak but I wonder if he was hearing things in the background.

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One thing that I picked up from the latest Mail article that hasn't been commented on yet, (I don't think so anyway - thread moves so fast.) is that at one point, shortly after her theft from the Hemmings is found out, Salnor goes completely MIA, AWOL, and Moth doesn't know where she is at all. (Allegedly.)

Her, "vehicle" is found abandoned in some remote location and Moth thinks she might be on the Isle of Skye, where they got married, or possibly even brown bread by her own hand...

...shortly afterwards he/they turn up at the relatives' doorstep asking for cash...

By vehicle, I suppose they mean car but it could have been something else like, say, a surfboard or even a canoe.

Or even one of those wikis they do at the top of a new thread like on the other place.

Even their 'real names' aren't real. Why doesn't she just say it loosely based on things that might have happened. Fiction would be a better descripotion.

What I think is most telling is the 'illness' - terminal and yet so many years later and still not progressed from extremely mild. Even the specialist raised eyebrows.......

They may well have agreed to a publicity deal that meant she was obliged under contract to appear when asked to.

I think there's definitely something that could be explained by psychiatry, with people who do this. I don't know about this pair. Perhaps they thought with the name changes and the changes to the story, nobody would think it was them. Naive if so but I wonder if they understand how connected people are online these days.

But I know someone who could lie, and behave appallingly to others, and she genuinely seemed to think she was important and respected enough that people would just take it. She committed fraud as well, faking signatures. But it was her abuse of colleagues that brought in the complaints and shone a light on her whole working life. And she was sacked. Claims it's a vendetta. It isn't.

I also think Hemimngs and his business needed the £64,000, and this was the only way they were going to get it back. I guess the police in question would know this (remember Pwllheli is a small town) and so not pursue it further. Sending RW to prison wouldn’t help, and as we now know most of the assets were in hock to the mortgage company.

I would not be surprised at all if she blags some kind of "non-admissions" deal with Penguin to simply recategorise the book as a work of fiction, just like her theft repayment deal with Hemmings. Penguin surely would prefer that too, rather than admit they got it so so wrong.

Yes, they contacted them in the beginning, and Chloe H said they'd spent a few months on it.

So she's known it was coming for a while.

Sorry to digress but I've just been down a Tangye rabbit hole. They were a fascinating family weren't they? Nigel was married at one point to Lady Marguerite who was a model and debutant.

In the unlikely event anyone was to look into my family history, the most interesting person they'd find would be my miserly and unpredictable Uncle Percy :(.

I don't suppose The Observer will be running anything tomorrow on this bar some filler? I think whatever info has been sent in CH's direction this week will take a while to corroborate.

Which makes the utterly nonsense their lawyer produced as a statement even more baffling. They had ample time to get good advice

Agree, it was a sensible decision for Hemmings, the cash was going to make the most difference to his life. Its a perfectly reasonable decision to make