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To think this is the start of type 1 diabetes

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NeuroSpicyCat · 10/07/2025 00:11

Hand hold please.

My 13 year old son informed me tonight that he wet the bed last night.

This has never happened before.

His late father had Type 1 diabetes which started around this age.

My son also has a sore tummy (that comes and goes) and sore calves (that come and go).

He seems to have low mood also.

He's always been really thin.

My husband (his stepdad) is driving to A&E with him right now. I’m staying home with the other 4 children. (I can’t drive).

I’m autistic and scared. I’m so worried for him. AI said he is highly likely to be diagnosed given his symptoms and family history, and he’s likely to be urgently admitted to hospital.

Has anyone been in a similar situation?

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Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 21:20

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 20:35

Here are NHS England’s guidelines for triage. There is no direct discharge of patient at triage option. The closest that can be done to discharge directly from triage is to redirect to primary care, which is not done at night due to primary and community care being closed. OP‘s DS attended at night. www.england.nhs.uk/guidance-for-emergency-departments-initial-assessment/

That was 2022. It’s changed since then.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 21:28

bruffin · 10/07/2025 17:45

Im type 2 and managed with Insulin as is my sister.
It actually took a few months before the doctors decided whether i was type 2 or 1.because i wasnt producing antibodies but it wasnt straightforward to diagnose.

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Exactly so. Many people think it’s black and white and the fact is that type two in some cases can’t be manage without insulin. We were told that insulin is a last resort when everything else has been tried, but clearly there are exceptions to this. It’s a bloody awful disease and causes horrible complications when poorly controlled. And to make things worse people assume that if you have it it’s your own fault. Which is just not the case.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 21:34

Pricelessadvice · 10/07/2025 19:27

And just as I don’t know about your personal situation, you don’t know about mine and why I feel so strongly about people turning up to A+E for no good reason.

And the fact that you don’t know about anyones personal situation means that you shouldn’t be jumping to the conclusion that they are turning up to A&E for no good reason.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 21:36

JifNtGif · 10/07/2025 19:20

I hope OP's child isn't still in A and E after wetting the bed once.

Read the thread - it wasn’t a case of just wetting the bed once. There were other symptoms and the 13 year old had been previously dry. Clearly A&E thought there was good reason for him to wait to see a doctor.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 21:37

mycatismyworld · 10/07/2025 16:22

He's 12, do we need to state the obvious? His Dad may have not had the " talk" with him

Probably the case, seeing as he’s dead.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 21:46

JifNtGif · 10/07/2025 19:20

I hope OP's child isn't still in A and E after wetting the bed once.

Well they certainly seemed to think there was a case for him staying to be seen by a doctor, despite a two hour wait. And I’m assuming you’re not aware of the consequences of discharging yourself against medical advice - which is what you’re advocating.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 21:47

Pricelessadvice · 10/07/2025 11:51

You appear to be confused. Triage is to determine the most important/urgent cases and which step is needed next (bloods, xray etc) and then patients are queued in order of who needs more immediate treatment and who needs to see a doctor more quickly.
Triage is not to decide who need to be in A+E and chuck them back out (though I wish it was!)

Nope.

rainingsnoring · 10/07/2025 21:53

TourdeFrance2025 · 10/07/2025 19:07

Read the post I quoted.

That post has absolutely nothing to do with what the OP said though.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 21:56

rainingsnoring · 10/07/2025 21:53

That post has absolutely nothing to do with what the OP said though.

Of course it hasn’t. That’s why the poster is urging that OP has done the right thing !! Symptoms can sometimes be vague. Doesn’t mean they’re not there. 🙄

rainingsnoring · 10/07/2025 21:57

TourdeFrance2025 · 10/07/2025 19:21

FGS at least read the posts I'm quoting before quoting me with more of your pointless posts.

I have read the posts @TourdeFrance2025. Why are you assuming that I have not? I just disagree with you and think that you are being hyperbolic.

Just to be really clear for you, type 1 diabetes is a medical emergency. No one has suggested that it is not. What the OP has described does not suggest a medical emergency and she did not need to rush her son to ED in the middle of the night. She should not have used AI to diagnose a medical condition. She should have spoken to a medical professional.

rainingsnoring · 10/07/2025 21:58

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 21:56

Of course it hasn’t. That’s why the poster is urging that OP has done the right thing !! Symptoms can sometimes be vague. Doesn’t mean they’re not there. 🙄

The symptoms described do not suggest type 1 diabetes. There was no need to fly off to ED in the middle of the night. The OP just panicked and used AI, neither of which was a helpful response.

JifNtGif · 10/07/2025 21:59

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 21:46

Well they certainly seemed to think there was a case for him staying to be seen by a doctor, despite a two hour wait. And I’m assuming you’re not aware of the consequences of discharging yourself against medical advice - which is what you’re advocating.

The boy wet the bed. Once. Smh. Also had a normal blood sugar.

MyOtherProfile · 10/07/2025 22:01

Alondra · 10/07/2025 10:29

There is a very strict diet. They need to eat regularly 5-6 small meals a day with carbs being weighted and counted as they are slow released sugars. The proportion of carbs, vegetables and protein is given by a nutritionist who reviews the diet with the diabetes health team, depending on regular blood results.

Not all diabetes 1 are the same, some people are fortunate to control it with insulin, diet and exercise, with a small percentage so severely affected that only a dual kidney and pancreas transplant can offer a longer life.

This is so wrong.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 22:01

Just a general observation. This has to be one of the most toxic threads I’ve ever seen on MN. A mum has posted for support after sending her son to hospital late at night because she suspects diabetes. Based on symptoms she’s observed, the fact that her late husband - the child’s father - had it, and the fact that her son told her he had wet the bed the night before. And what she gets in return is not support but a pile on telling her she’s wrong and is taking up resources other people need. She’s been called feckless and irresponsible. It’s disgusting. I’m just glad she didn’t post for advice before actually sending him because the overwhelming advice would be no, regardless of the serious consequences, and could have landed her in a world of shit by this morning. You people need to give your heads a serious wobble. MN is supposed to be supportive but this thread is a nest of vipers.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 22:02

JifNtGif · 10/07/2025 21:59

The boy wet the bed. Once. Smh. Also had a normal blood sugar.

And yet they wanted him to stay and see a doctor.

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 22:07

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 21:20

That was 2022. It’s changed since then.

That is still the current guideline on NHS England. You do not have to take my word for it, you can search nhs triage guidance here: www.england.nhs.uk/publication/?filter-keyword=Triage&filter-category=eprr&filter-publication=&filter-date-from=&filter-date-to=&filter-order-by=date-desc

x2boys · 10/07/2025 22:10

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 22:01

Just a general observation. This has to be one of the most toxic threads I’ve ever seen on MN. A mum has posted for support after sending her son to hospital late at night because she suspects diabetes. Based on symptoms she’s observed, the fact that her late husband - the child’s father - had it, and the fact that her son told her he had wet the bed the night before. And what she gets in return is not support but a pile on telling her she’s wrong and is taking up resources other people need. She’s been called feckless and irresponsible. It’s disgusting. I’m just glad she didn’t post for advice before actually sending him because the overwhelming advice would be no, regardless of the serious consequences, and could have landed her in a world of shit by this morning. You people need to give your heads a serious wobble. MN is supposed to be supportive but this thread is a nest of vipers.

Agreed I don't think many posters understand the urgency of Diabetes and DKA my oldest son went from felling mildly unwell in the morning to collapsing at home at 7pm in DKA by 9pm he was in critical care fighting for his life
If the Op has over reacted thsn so what it's better then the alternative thankfully my son recovered but it was touch and go for a few days.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 22:13

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 22:07

That is still the current guideline on NHS England. You do not have to take my word for it, you can search nhs triage guidance here: www.england.nhs.uk/publication/?filter-keyword=Triage&filter-category=eprr&filter-publication=&filter-date-from=&filter-date-to=&filter-order-by=date-desc

I don’t take your word for it, I have first hand experience.

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 22:14

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2025 22:13

I don’t take your word for it, I have first hand experience.

You have firsthand experience of what, exactly? You wrote the supposed new NHS triage guidance? Do feel free to share it.

Rachie1973 · 10/07/2025 22:25

TourdeFrance2025 · 10/07/2025 11:34

I'm sick to death of people that don't understand diabetes is a serious, life threatening condition. Waiting ti see a GP could be FAR too late.

yes. If the child showed more acute symptoms. Nothing in his presentation according to his mother necessitated an urgent A and E visit.

My mother, brother and daughter are all type 1 diabetics, despite it not being a family link. Between them we’ve only ever needed A and E twice.

Willyoujustbequiet · 10/07/2025 22:27

Lioncub2020 · 10/07/2025 10:17

Ok. I must take more responsibility for the health of my family than others. Those two items cost about £30 together? Surely people think their children are worth more than that?

I've certainly got both items at home and I know my friends have similar. I think it's pretty typical as a parent not an abundance of caution.

KennysLook · 10/07/2025 22:34

You do realise what could happen if people start going to A&E just because AI told them to, right?

You’re aware the original poster said her DS's symptoms have been on and off, which makes an earlier GP visit the right choice? The only new symptom she observed was one time bed wetting.

It’s not so much that she sent her DS to A&E with his stepdad, but that she did it because AI told her to, and that’s the worrying part.

If everyone with low health literacy starts asking AI which service to use instead of calling 111, A&E will end up even more overwhelmed and people with real emergencies will have even longer wait times.

Use 111 to access the right service, unless life threatening. Please.

MyOtherProfile · 10/07/2025 22:40

Excellent point @KennysLook

JifNtGif · 10/07/2025 22:42

Hang on is "Al" the name of the step dad? Scottish?

justasking111 · 10/07/2025 22:44

JifNtGif · 10/07/2025 22:42

Hang on is "Al" the name of the step dad? Scottish?

No it's the initials of "Artificial Intelligence"