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Thread 4: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 09/07/2025 20:23

The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

Second article in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

Third article in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

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MrsKypp · 09/07/2025 22:50

Walking to reverse CBD is the equivalent of claiming eating kale cured stage IV pancreatic cancer.

Utter codswallop and incredibly dangerous and damaging, selfish and cruel.

Muffsies · 09/07/2025 22:51

ClareBlue · 09/07/2025 22:22

That's shocking, tbh

My gods, yes its awful 🫢

ButterflyHaven · 09/07/2025 22:53

flowertoday · 09/07/2025 20:57

I felt sad and disappointed that the book may be a fake of sorts in part.
I am a bit stunned by the threads in mumsnet though. It does have the flavour of a witch hunt.
Without minimising any of the untruths / misrepresentation i do wonder why the strength of reaction.
Raynor Winn / Sally Walker is hardly Trump or even Boris Johnson is she ? I daresay many or most of our politicians are thief's and liers. She is not a murderer or a rapist.

I agree. And someone above even suggested that anyone who disagrees is probably being paid for it! As if others can not have a genuinely different opinion.

There's something of a witch hunt going on especially as the author is a woman. I just can't see a man being subjected to this degree of righteous anger. Motivations and actions aren't as straightforward as this discussion seems to suggest.

Fandango52 · 09/07/2025 22:53

Comet33 · 09/07/2025 22:29

Time to draw a line under this and move on - these threads have long since ceased to be a place to discuss shock and confusion at the Observer article and have turned into witch hunts.

Some of you won't be happy unless you have access to every piece of medical evidence and will still use semantics to dispute Moth's diagnosis.

I just find it really shitty, personally, that they have made so much money out of telling lies. That’s the long and short of it for me.

@HumbleWarrior echoes my feelings perfectly in their post from 22:07pm today on this thread.

And I find it shitty as well that RW apparently:

  • charged money to promote her books at charity events
  • wrote to the Big Issue to ask if she could write an article for them about her experience of homelessness (when she made herself homeless when her house was repossessed after she couldn’t repay the loan she took out to repay the money she had taken from a former employer) and got paid for that article
  • stole from campsites that she and Moth stayed at.

I might sound really judgemental and smug, but that’s really shit behaviour. Yet she seems to justify it either by saying she had no alternative option as she was homeless, or she passes it off as sort of whimsical, manic pixie dream girl behaviour. It’s just shitty. That’s what it is.

ClareBlue · 09/07/2025 22:54

mauvishagain · 09/07/2025 22:41

Re the neurologist's book review - some of you might not like it, or think the consultant should be investigated, but why?

Doctors are human.They read books. I can quite see that someone would be interested to read a book written by one of their patients, especially when it deals with the medical problems that they are treating.

I used to review books for various medical publications, some august and others less so. Publishers would send the books to the magazine editors who would forward them to people like me who had volunteered to read them. No payment was given though I could keep the book afterwards! (yippee dooo!)

The consultant has done no wrong in offering up this review and I don't see why anyone would think otherwise (whether you appreciate his writing style is neither here nor there!)

But he slags of the legal profession more than once when the reality is they did what they are meant to do. That is take possession of security for creditors over an unpaid loan. It's sold as an injustice which is not the truth.
Alot of people are criticised by the entitled author of the book. From housing departments, judges who saw evidence as 'only a piece of paper', rural communities who she thinks judge people in public housing. The list is long. This review perpetuates this but doesn't actually review the book does it. It continues a narrative.

Namechangedfortheterfasaurs · 09/07/2025 22:54

Other thoughts having read the letters:

  1. the 2015 letter and the 2019 letter both express doubts. He evidently has something neurological but it sounds like they are not really sure how to diagnose it and reach for that diagnosis as closest that they can get to but a very bad fit (happily for him as the prognosis is much better).

  2. the February 2025 letter is just weird. Why would they have any queries arising out of release of a film that a consultant neurologist would answer? Why is he wanging on in a clinical update letter of the sort that would be sent to a GP about their charity work and carefully emphasising that they have not said this or that about the effects of exercise on his condition (especially since I understand the whole premise of the books to be that it does improve his condition)?

HolyPond · 09/07/2025 22:54

Ammophila · 09/07/2025 22:20

I hope not. I liked The Outrun and, whilst Amy Liptrot comes across as quite a difficult person, I didn't get any "this may not be true" vibes.

Though admittedly it would be quite funny if she had fabricated the whole alcoholic, drug-using, out of control, London party girl past, and had actually spent that entire period running a tea shop in the Cotswolds and living like a nun.😀

Bruisername · 09/07/2025 22:54

it’s nothing to do with her being a woman🙄

Merrymouse · 09/07/2025 22:55

mauvishagain · 09/07/2025 22:41

Re the neurologist's book review - some of you might not like it, or think the consultant should be investigated, but why?

Doctors are human.They read books. I can quite see that someone would be interested to read a book written by one of their patients, especially when it deals with the medical problems that they are treating.

I used to review books for various medical publications, some august and others less so. Publishers would send the books to the magazine editors who would forward them to people like me who had volunteered to read them. No payment was given though I could keep the book afterwards! (yippee dooo!)

The consultant has done no wrong in offering up this review and I don't see why anyone would think otherwise (whether you appreciate his writing style is neither here nor there!)

I dislike it because I know that when you think you have reached rock bottom, the reality is that it can get a lot worse.

I am more familiar with cancer than neurological conditions, but illness is sometimes just awful and traumatic.

I’m not suggesting he be investigated. I’m just surprised that he seems so detached from the reality of what patients may be experiencing. Maybe it’s a coping mechanism?

MrsKypp · 09/07/2025 22:55

Moth is complicit through his silence. Just as guilty. He knew all along what she was writing was not honest or true.

whackamole666 · 09/07/2025 22:57

Aspanielstolemysanity · 09/07/2025 21:26

Does anyone have a link that enables me to read the telegraph article without signing up with bank details (something I am reluctant to do as I don't have a spare french chateau down the back of the sofa)!

If you are a member of your local library, sign up for on line access (ie borrowbox or Libby) and you can access newspapers and magazines for free.

ShedSister · 09/07/2025 22:58

PracticallyPeapod · 09/07/2025 21:55

I’m intrigued as well. Raising Hare? Haven’t read it but it’s bestseller. Is somebody bankrupt/terminally ill in it?

If you smelt a rat on The Salt Path then Olivia Lang's book The Garden Against Time has the same stench.

EternalLodga · 09/07/2025 22:58

In the early 1990s, Moth made an investment in Cooper’s property portfolio

Wait this is the Moth who was an eco activist?

Aspanielstolemysanity · 09/07/2025 22:58

Namechangedfortheterfasaurs · 09/07/2025 22:54

Other thoughts having read the letters:

  1. the 2015 letter and the 2019 letter both express doubts. He evidently has something neurological but it sounds like they are not really sure how to diagnose it and reach for that diagnosis as closest that they can get to but a very bad fit (happily for him as the prognosis is much better).

  2. the February 2025 letter is just weird. Why would they have any queries arising out of release of a film that a consultant neurologist would answer? Why is he wanging on in a clinical update letter of the sort that would be sent to a GP about their charity work and carefully emphasising that they have not said this or that about the effects of exercise on his condition (especially since I understand the whole premise of the books to be that it does improve his condition)?

Agree, that 2025 letter is very strange.

Comet33 · 09/07/2025 22:59

Your post makes it clear you and your loved ones have not been diagnosed with a condition similar to the one claimed in the books

No it doesn't. You've made an assumption based on your own feelings, one which shows a lack of objectivity.

Neurodegenerative conditions of the same family as CBD/CBS run in my family, but that won't influence anyone's opinion because so many are wedded to this trial-by-social-media.

Choux · 09/07/2025 22:59

From the 2015 letter…
His symptoms began 9 or 10 years ago. So almost 20 years ago now.
He first went to a surgery in 2009.
He managed to keep working ‘while contending with his symptoms until a couple of years ago’.

So he had to stop working in 2013 because of his symptoms? Or because he was now homeless and they decided to walk the Salt Path rather than take a council house?

The letter also says his MRI in 2011 - like all other tests - was negative. The dr is doing a repeat MRI and ‘will write when he has the results’. But no scan results have been shared with us - presumably they don’t evidence anything of note. Except the book says they do!

Choux · 09/07/2025 23:00

EternalLodga · 09/07/2025 22:58

In the early 1990s, Moth made an investment in Cooper’s property portfolio

Wait this is the Moth who was an eco activist?

What can I say - he’s a complex character!

Nameychangington · 09/07/2025 23:01

ButterflyHaven · 09/07/2025 22:53

I agree. And someone above even suggested that anyone who disagrees is probably being paid for it! As if others can not have a genuinely different opinion.

There's something of a witch hunt going on especially as the author is a woman. I just can't see a man being subjected to this degree of righteous anger. Motivations and actions aren't as straightforward as this discussion seems to suggest.

Whether or not you stole £64k is pretty straightforward.

Whether or not you can claim to be homeless when you own a house in France is pretty straightforward.

Whether or not a brain scan showed deterioration then a later brain scan showed the deterioration had disappeared, apparently due to you going on a long walk, is pretty straightforward.

MrsKypp · 09/07/2025 23:02

Exactly @CHoux

EternalLodga · 09/07/2025 23:03

Choux · 09/07/2025 23:00

What can I say - he’s a complex character!

I guess it makes sense, kind of like writing about homelessness for the big issue while owning a house in france

diningiswest · 09/07/2025 23:03

ShedSister · 09/07/2025 22:58

If you smelt a rat on The Salt Path then Olivia Lang's book The Garden Against Time has the same stench.

Ah that’s really interesting. She’s been getting on my nerves for years, and I’ve never quite pinned down why. She writes exactly the kind of books I ought to love, and yet they rub me up the wrong way.

Ammophila · 09/07/2025 23:03

HolyPond · 09/07/2025 22:54

Though admittedly it would be quite funny if she had fabricated the whole alcoholic, drug-using, out of control, London party girl past, and had actually spent that entire period running a tea shop in the Cotswolds and living like a nun.😀

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

bluegreygreen · 09/07/2025 23:04

Nameychangington · 09/07/2025 23:01

Whether or not you stole £64k is pretty straightforward.

Whether or not you can claim to be homeless when you own a house in France is pretty straightforward.

Whether or not a brain scan showed deterioration then a later brain scan showed the deterioration had disappeared, apparently due to you going on a long walk, is pretty straightforward.

Whether or not you can claim to have a terminal diagnosis made in 2013 when you had a vague 'possible' diagnosis made in 2015 is also fairly straightforward.

PracticallyPeapod · 09/07/2025 23:04

Oh really? That wouldn’t be so surprising because I think her thing is kind of semi- fictionalised/blurred lines life writing.

Fandango52 · 09/07/2025 23:04

Bruisername · 09/07/2025 22:54

it’s nothing to do with her being a woman🙄

Agreed. In fact, most of the fabricated memoirs that have been back in the news this week because of this have been written by men (e.g. James Frey, Herman Rosenblat, Ryszard Kapuściński, the man who forged the Hitler Diaries..) The only woman I can think of in that list is Misha Defonseca.

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