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A future Reform government is looking more and more likely

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Jennps · 08/07/2025 11:03

The Tories ruined the country to such an extent that they are potentially finished, forever.

Labour, in the last year, have hit new depths of incompetence and stupidity.

Taxes are higher than ever and businesses are being destroyed under the weight of NI increases

Gilt yields higher now than under Truss

National debt at unprecedented levels and debt interested out of control

Food inflation nearing 10%

Top rate taxpayers leaving the country in their tens of thousands, a complete disaster given that the top 1% pay nearly a third of all tax

Welfare out of control with 1000 people a day going onto disability benefits

Illegal migration even worse than under the Tories

And the latest from Labour…..a deal with France to bring over migrants into the UK. Cue the outrage and noise about but yeah, they’re coming over anyway, it’s one in one out, it’s family connection only (like anyone is going to test DNA to prove family connections) yada yada yada. It’s not the point. The country does not need more pull factors. This is going to be a huge one. It’s practically going to turn illegal migration into legal, the idea being to massage the numbers.

Reform are being handed power on a plate by this shower. They couldn’t ask for a better campaigning outfit than this Labour government.

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KitTea3 · 04/09/2025 21:58

If they have any chance of getting in....best start preparing....

..so I have just under 4 years to get myself steralised

Farage is under far too much influence from(and being financed by) the religious zealots in America and seeing as the Handmaids Tale seems to be getting closer and closer to becoming fact and not fiction I don't want to take my chances 😳

Fargo79 · 06/09/2025 02:50

KitTea3 · 04/09/2025 21:58

If they have any chance of getting in....best start preparing....

..so I have just under 4 years to get myself steralised

Farage is under far too much influence from(and being financed by) the religious zealots in America and seeing as the Handmaids Tale seems to be getting closer and closer to becoming fact and not fiction I don't want to take my chances 😳

My girls and I do not keep period trackers on our phone. We use paper calendars. I worry that the potential exists for data from a tracking app to be used against us at some point, given the number of women in countries with abortion bans who are persecuted not only for abortions but for miscarriages and stillbirths. We're not there yet in the UK, but then I never thought I'd see the overturning of Roe Vs Wade and it proves women are still at risk from extremist ideology infiltrating legislation everywhere - even in the so-called "Land of the Free".

BalladOfBarryAndFreda · 06/09/2025 12:23

Fargo79 · 06/09/2025 02:50

My girls and I do not keep period trackers on our phone. We use paper calendars. I worry that the potential exists for data from a tracking app to be used against us at some point, given the number of women in countries with abortion bans who are persecuted not only for abortions but for miscarriages and stillbirths. We're not there yet in the UK, but then I never thought I'd see the overturning of Roe Vs Wade and it proves women are still at risk from extremist ideology infiltrating legislation everywhere - even in the so-called "Land of the Free".

This is sensible. The "Land of the Free" is an interesting one though in terms of abortion because it really isn't and never was, despite Roe v Wade. Though the UK and US share many cultural similarities and it's very sensible to worry about their influence, the blur of Church and State in the US has always been much, much murkier than it is here. We (in the UK) have a much clearer divide between the two, in our legal system and governance. That doesn't mean we can be complacent, there are definite creeping trends of religious extremism threatening to infringe women's legal rights, but the UK and US aren't directly comparable in terms of religious ideology and its place in government and legislation.

BlueJuniper94 · 06/09/2025 12:26

Bottleflag · 08/07/2025 12:30

I think it is possible Farage could be the next PM, but as leader of the Conservatives, Reform wont make it to the next election. He'll be dreadful, wants the kudos but not to do the work, like Boris, but that doesn't stop people voting for charismatic people.

Rupert Lowe as Conservative PM

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