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Another testing of National Alert

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MollyButton · 08/07/2025 00:00

AIBU to ask if people are aware: Apparently there is another test of the national Alert system happening in September. It’s crucial that people are aware it will happen especially those with some disabilities or in DV situations.
https://www.itv.com/news/2025-07-07/emergency-alert-to-hit-mobile-phones-in-national-test-heres-what-to-expect?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwLZMCVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHiAMlc8Hi8ZwEEpQytAAAehtyAe2NI34brKfl6iK0bVHV_C09yg-CR3DXf8f_aem_Z9muBhLduhdVxHRtvfwqYw

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MrsSkylerWhite · 08/07/2025 10:00

LovingLimePeer · 08/07/2025 07:08

I think with the possibility of WW3 within the next 2-3 years, as well as more routine emergencies e.g. storms this will be set up to alert in the event of e.g. nuclear power stations being damaged or, god forbid, a nuclear attack.

People may have extremely limited time to seek shelter, hence the need for an immediate alert, rather than relying on people to check phones/internet, which won't be working anyway as so many people will be using their phones at once.

Why do you think WW3 will occur within 2-3 years?

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/07/2025 10:01

Astrabees · 08/07/2025 07:44

I will be turning my phone off and storing it in a metal box. I have no intention of participating in state control.

🙄

You'd rather drown in a flood?

MyLov · 08/07/2025 10:02

NHSinterviewupcoming · 08/07/2025 09:57

Gosh I don’t understand the hysterics over this.

This has been used a few times in my area. Usually weather related, but it’s better to have it working than not have it.

This. I really don’t understand why people wouldn’t want this up and running and working efficiently. It’s not like it’s going off weekly. It will be used if and when there is an emergency. And I’m glad of that, especially with worsening weather due to climate change and the world becoming more and more unstable.

NHSinterviewupcoming · 08/07/2025 10:04

MyLov · 08/07/2025 10:02

This. I really don’t understand why people wouldn’t want this up and running and working efficiently. It’s not like it’s going off weekly. It will be used if and when there is an emergency. And I’m glad of that, especially with worsening weather due to climate change and the world becoming more and more unstable.

I’m glad to see more testing too as last time it was used, my phone went off about an hour later than everyone else in my family! thankfully it wasn’t actually intended for us, but if that was a real scenario it’s worrying

Ihad2Strokes · 08/07/2025 10:04

Astrabees · 08/07/2025 07:44

I will be turning my phone off and storing it in a metal box. I have no intention of participating in state control.

Alternatively you could just ignore it, but I suppose it doesn't get you anywhere near as much attention 🙄🙄

Ihad2Strokes · 08/07/2025 10:05

Septua · 08/07/2025 07:44

I hope they change it so the message can still be read after being silenced. Last time I had to make it shut up fast, but then the message was gone. My natural instinct is to stop the racket immediately!

Yes!!

Ihad2Strokes · 08/07/2025 10:14

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 08/07/2025 08:44

I work for the Environment Agency, and have an incident response role. We can use it to issue a Severe Flood Warning ie: when there is a risk to life. Not everyone has chosen to sign up to the "normal" flood warnings service.

How can you tell what you are Ant signed up to?

tripleginandtonic · 08/07/2025 10:27

I was at a sporting event that was paused but phones carried on going off randomly for a good half hour. Mine never did.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 08/07/2025 10:28

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IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 08/07/2025 10:32

@Ihad2Strokes - nobody is automtically signed up to anything (apart from the government alert system), so unless you've spoken to the Environment Agency or Floodline, then you're not signed up to anything.

If you'd like to sign up, call Floodline on 0345 988 1188.

Ihad2Strokes · 08/07/2025 10:37

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 08/07/2025 09:07

@MeringueOutang flood warnings map heree*. There's nothing on it today!

If you'd like flood alerts and warnings sent directly to you, you can sign up heree*. You can chose where you get warnings for. There are 2 lower level warning types, before we'd even consider the national alert system. You can get them by text, email or phone message. It's just information, there is no government mandate of things you must do if you receive one.

Thank you, it said it couldn't do it for my address (quite far from any body of significant water) but could for the nearest river. I was really wanting it for when I go away & i'm not familiar with local risks. Will this work?

NHSinterviewupcoming · 08/07/2025 10:42

tripleginandtonic · 08/07/2025 10:27

I was at a sporting event that was paused but phones carried on going off randomly for a good half hour. Mine never did.

Which is why they’re continuing to test it and work out the issues

Ihad2Strokes · 08/07/2025 10:45

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 08/07/2025 10:32

@Ihad2Strokes - nobody is automtically signed up to anything (apart from the government alert system), so unless you've spoken to the Environment Agency or Floodline, then you're not signed up to anything.

If you'd like to sign up, call Floodline on 0345 988 1188.

I don't know what you mean? I followed your heeereee link & signed up online. 🤷🏻‍♀️ never mind. It was only for going away to unfamiliar places & I haven't currently got any plans to ' if I do, flooding isn't my major concern.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 08/07/2025 10:46

@MeringueOutang if they can't do it for your address, its because you're not at risk of flloding, but you can ask for warnings for anywhere in England, but the guys n gals who sign you up need a postcode. So if it's a town centre or something, use the postcode for a large shop, public building there.

CuteOrangeElephant · 08/07/2025 10:48

I live in the Netherlands and we have this. It was actually used a couple of weeks ago, there was a fire at the local industrial estate with lots of toxic fumes, we were advised to shut all windows.

System is tested twice a year, there are also physical sirens that are tested monthly. I find the phone alerts more effective than the big sirens.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 08/07/2025 10:48

@MeringueOutang i suppose you could register for flood warnings every time you go away. You can sign up and withdraw from the service whenever you want.

GentleSheep · 08/07/2025 10:48

Astrabees · 08/07/2025 07:44

I will be turning my phone off and storing it in a metal box. I have no intention of participating in state control.

It might be of interest to know that in Plymouth an undetonated WW2 bomb was found and required 50,000 people to be evacuated. This was quickly achieved using the alert system. It's not 'state control' to hear an emergency alert. What you want to do after you hear it is up to you, but in and of itself there's no 'control' element.

Topseyt123 · 08/07/2025 10:52

Astrabees · 08/07/2025 07:44

I will be turning my phone off and storing it in a metal box. I have no intention of participating in state control.

Conspiracy theorist bollocks right there.

StarlightLady · 08/07/2025 11:10

SprayWhiteDung · 08/07/2025 00:08

Maybe it's just me, but I can't help wondering what they're planning to use it for.

Most people have news alerts set up and/or check their phone very regularly for any breaking stories.

I can see how it could have been useful around 15-20 years ago, when loads of people had phones but not ones that were connected to the internet; but it just seems quite superfluous now, like the ship has long sailed.

It has been used for real. Used for storm warnings and in Plymouth for evacuation due to a huge unexploded bomb.

LovingLimePeer · 08/07/2025 11:58

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/07/2025 10:00

Why do you think WW3 will occur within 2-3 years?

UK is putting itself on a war footing and increasing the size of our armed forces.

It might be worth reading the defence strategic review - quite an interesting (if long) read.

It depends on your source but 2-5 years is when most believe Russia would be in a position to attack a NATO country.

It may never happen, and any war in our part of the world may predominantly use tactics of sabotage e.g. undersea pipes/cables and interfering with supply lines, rather than traditional war tactics. Who knows. We're already seeing an increase in bank outages, which may be hushed up cyber attacks for all we know.

www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2025/03/22/uk-has-just-two-years-to-prepare-for-war-with-russia-former-general-warns-22772084/amp/

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62v63gl8rvo.amp

Ginmonkeyagain · 08/07/2025 14:47

They tested a similar system in Germany in March. I had literally just landed in Cologne and my phone started blaring out. It is a very different noise from the normal laerts on your phone. Scared the bejesus out of me!

It is just a modern version of civil warning sirens that some countries have. The French still test theirs every first Wednesday of the month.

Ginmonkeyagain · 08/07/2025 14:52

@Astrabees it's no more state control than govenrment information leaflets or adverts. You do know that they don't need to have your phone number to send these alerts don't you? The message is not personally sent to you, your phone is just picking up a globally broadcasted message, just like a radio.

yakkity · 08/07/2025 15:13

Astrabees · 08/07/2025 07:44

I will be turning my phone off and storing it in a metal box. I have no intention of participating in state control.

How is an emergency alert giving YOU information to keep safe ‘state control’ 😂

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 08/07/2025 15:49

I do think there should be a way of opting out as the alerts could cause problems for some people, one example being DV victims with a second hidden phone.

KrisAkabusi · 08/07/2025 15:51

SprayWhiteDung · 08/07/2025 00:08

Maybe it's just me, but I can't help wondering what they're planning to use it for.

Most people have news alerts set up and/or check their phone very regularly for any breaking stories.

I can see how it could have been useful around 15-20 years ago, when loads of people had phones but not ones that were connected to the internet; but it just seems quite superfluous now, like the ship has long sailed.

And what if there's an emergency while you're asleep?