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ClareBlue · 09/07/2025 09:47

What about the poor housing allocation officer who allegedly wouldn't allocate housing because the Moth wasn't dying quick enough. Do they get an appology. Maybe the housing needs assessment revealed they could be adequately housed without needing public housing, or the complete snobbery around the embarrassing situation of having to live in a public funded house and having a go at the local community judging them when all the local community wanted is the debts to be paid. The option to use housing benefit support to rent privately. It's all rubbish with a serious undertone of snobbery and entitlement. Stealing off shops and local businesses was framed about how bad it made her feel. But stealing 64K didn't.
When you look at it rationally the sense of delusional entitlement in the book is breath taking.

QuantumLevelActions · 09/07/2025 09:49

Jawdrop · 09/07/2025 09:22

Do you know how far away Fowey looks to someone based in London? Grin

The thing about being on a farm, too, is that if you stick a guard dog out the front, and/or padlock a gate at the road access, it's pretty hard to doorstep someone who doesn't want to be doorstepped.

Presumably in their shoes, you'd either lie low at home, if it was somewhere you could hole up, or get the hell out to somewhere big and anonymous before the story broke.

Edited

Do all journalists live in London?

Seems unlikely.

AWanderingFool · 09/07/2025 09:50

Orangesandlemons77 · 09/07/2025 09:04

Really? I mean you'd think that was understandable, not sure why the booksellers would be cross with customers about it

I think some because of the loss of revenue, but from what I recall of the comments some didn't believe the allegations and were annoyed with the people asking for their money back.

One person who commented said the bookshop had lost their custom permanently because of how angry the owner was with them!

I don't have a link because I don't remember where, amongst all the discussions about this, I read the comments.

User14March · 09/07/2025 09:51

AWanderingFool · 09/07/2025 09:46

Try and track down the people on the smallholding forum who bought it as part of the fraudulent draw?

I see Chloe H was trying to track it down…Interesting.

Orangesandlemons77 · 09/07/2025 09:53

ClareBlue · 09/07/2025 09:47

What about the poor housing allocation officer who allegedly wouldn't allocate housing because the Moth wasn't dying quick enough. Do they get an appology. Maybe the housing needs assessment revealed they could be adequately housed without needing public housing, or the complete snobbery around the embarrassing situation of having to live in a public funded house and having a go at the local community judging them when all the local community wanted is the debts to be paid. The option to use housing benefit support to rent privately. It's all rubbish with a serious undertone of snobbery and entitlement. Stealing off shops and local businesses was framed about how bad it made her feel. But stealing 64K didn't.
When you look at it rationally the sense of delusional entitlement in the book is breath taking.

I doubt they would have qualified for housing given they had a property in France?

Maureenthemagicunicorn · 09/07/2025 09:54

I'm camping near Haye Farm soon. Maybe I should pop in!

QuantumLevelActions · 09/07/2025 09:56

Maureenthemagicunicorn · 09/07/2025 09:54

I'm camping near Haye Farm soon. Maybe I should pop in!

Ask if you can borrow £64k

AWanderingFool · 09/07/2025 09:56

Who did Chloe H say she'd received a tip off from?

Could it be the people who own Haye Farm? They'd be close enough to see Timothy regularly and suspect he didn't have CBD.

AWanderingFool · 09/07/2025 10:00

Spanglemum02 · 09/07/2025 09:14

Why would her parents get married 20 years before she was born? I think the wedding dress comment was just something that stuck in Ros' mind as Sally was ranting and raving.

Her parents married in 1954. And the dress wasn't a wedding dress per se, it was a powder blue suit I think (someone posted a newspaper clipping which described it).

The sense of entitlement when having to pay back a fraction of the money you've embezzled is gobsmacking.

Bruisername · 09/07/2025 10:02

Don’t forget when she repaid the £9k that’s all they thought she had stolen and it was only afterwards they found the rest

so her boo hooing when she knew she had done worse is pretty galling

PullTheBricksDown · 09/07/2025 10:02

AWanderingFool · 09/07/2025 09:56

Who did Chloe H say she'd received a tip off from?

Could it be the people who own Haye Farm? They'd be close enough to see Timothy regularly and suspect he didn't have CBD.

Edited

Doubt she would identify the person(s) who gave the tip off. Journalists protect their sources.

AWanderingFool · 09/07/2025 10:04

PullTheBricksDown · 09/07/2025 10:02

Doubt she would identify the person(s) who gave the tip off. Journalists protect their sources.

Sorry, I meant she described them as someone the knew later, but I can't remember exactly how she described them.

I didn't mean she would say it was a particular person. I just wondered if the cider farm people matched her description of the source.

Thebelleofstmarys · 09/07/2025 10:06

AWanderingFool · 09/07/2025 09:56

Who did Chloe H say she'd received a tip off from?

Could it be the people who own Haye Farm? They'd be close enough to see Timothy regularly and suspect he didn't have CBD.

Edited

And who does own Haye Farm ? Anyone know ?

AWanderingFool · 09/07/2025 10:06

Bruisername · 09/07/2025 10:02

Don’t forget when she repaid the £9k that’s all they thought she had stolen and it was only afterwards they found the rest

so her boo hooing when she knew she had done worse is pretty galling

Fancy reacting like that when you've stolen money from people!

-Can we have our money back, please?
-I've had to sell things to give you this money back!

It's unhinged!!

Woolftown · 09/07/2025 10:08

I feel sorry for the independent bookshops - bestsellers can really make the difference to their income and they must factor that into their projections. Like all frauds the pool of victims is larger than it first seems.

I saw that the Folk on Foot have withdrawn their podcast featuring Raynor until matters have been clarified.

On a different note, did one of the other journalists at the Observer suggest there would be more to come?

AWanderingFool · 09/07/2025 10:09

When this broke Gigspinner said they'd do their Turnstone tour instead, but it seems venues are cancelling, which is a massive shame for them.

It's gutting the knock on effects the Walkers criminality is having, and I expect Sally will be moaning about how hard done by she is.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 09/07/2025 10:14

AWanderingFool · 09/07/2025 10:09

When this broke Gigspinner said they'd do their Turnstone tour instead, but it seems venues are cancelling, which is a massive shame for them.

It's gutting the knock on effects the Walkers criminality is having, and I expect Sally will be moaning about how hard done by she is.

That's really rotten for the band, it's horrible how many people are paying the price for this

Danceswithweasels · 09/07/2025 10:15

AWanderingFool · 09/07/2025 09:56

Who did Chloe H say she'd received a tip off from?

Could it be the people who own Haye Farm? They'd be close enough to see Timothy regularly and suspect he didn't have CBD.

Edited

It's an investment banker, Billy Cole, who owns the farm, cider business and a rum distillery.

Uricon2 · 09/07/2025 10:16

This is from Chloe H's Observer piece that I sort of missed on first read

"The following account of how the couple lost their home is based on interviews with eight people with direct knowledge of what happened."

That is a lot of people. I've counted Ros Hemmings/"James" the lender of £100K wife "Rebecca"/Michael Strain the Hemmings solicitor/the policeman who confirmed the report made about the missing money.

Wonder who the others are.

EllieEllie25 · 09/07/2025 10:17

It’s so disgusting to me, all the people they have hurt and affected, while thinking how clever they were. Someone earlier was wondering how much money she will have made so far from the books, I saw this in a bookseller.com article published on Monday.

“Winn has sold just over 998,000 units for £9.5m through NielsenIQ BookScan’s TCM since first being published in 2018. The original mass-market paperback edition of The Salt Path sold the bulk of that – 561,000 copies for £4.97m – making it the 45th-bestselling non-fiction paperback since accurate records began, and the fourth-bestselling general autobiography in paperback of all-time.”

https://www.thebookseller.com/news/news/the-salt-path-author-raynor-winn-accused-of-stealing-64k-and-fabricating-claims

I’m going to drop off my copy at the charity shop today, it was already in the charity shop pile but this has all reminded me to get it out of the house.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 09/07/2025 10:18

Aspanielstolemysanity · 09/07/2025 10:14

That's really rotten for the band, it's horrible how many people are paying the price for this

It’s horrible how many PPs misspell Gigspanner.😀

Ammophila · 09/07/2025 10:22

AWanderingFool · 09/07/2025 10:09

When this broke Gigspinner said they'd do their Turnstone tour instead, but it seems venues are cancelling, which is a massive shame for them.

It's gutting the knock on effects the Walkers criminality is having, and I expect Sally will be moaning about how hard done by she is.

That's really sad. They've done nothing wrong and they shouldn't have to suffer hardship here. Are the venues so sure that the audiences were coming because of TSP Winn/Walker connection? There must have been a fan base for Gigspanner too.

Edit for misspelling band name too. Apologies.

Idontpostmuch · 09/07/2025 10:22

Pinty · 09/07/2025 09:15

James Herriot's books were never sold as completely true. They were described as a description of what it is like working as a vet in Yorkshire. He never said it was a completely true account of his life. The timescales are different , the place names are fictionalised, he uses completely different names and the events are are a mix of things that happens.
The Salt Path was described as completely true

Good point

AWanderingFool · 09/07/2025 10:24
  1. Ros Hemmings
  2. Local police officer
  3. Michael Strain, solicitor
  4. 'Rebecca', wife of 'James'
  5. Maxine Farrimond
  6. The owner of the garage

Then there's former staff of Martin Hemmings, French officials, and villagers where they have their French property.

Re: CBD, named are

  1. Prof Michele Hu (one of nine neurologists/researchers)
Idontpostmuch · 09/07/2025 10:24

ClareBlue · 09/07/2025 08:54

Our family ran the vet practice next to James Herriot's and would know him well enough at the time. At no time did he ever say it was an accurate recolation of exactly what happened in his practice and nobody thought that it was. Titles like 'it shouldn't happen to a vet' and then antidotes about things that happened to vets, mostly himself but not always, and embelished for entertainment. It might have got a few people interested in being a vet but it certainly didn't give people false hope about overcoming terminal health conditions or impact on charity fund raising. And he wasn't pretending to be someone he wasn't or running from debts and lies. So I wouldn't say it's the same what so ever.

I never said it was the same. You're putting words into my mouth, or keyboard strokes into my fingers.

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