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Did anyone see has an idol though? I thought part of the appeal was that they were flawed humans - only now we know far more flawed than they let on!!

I don’t get the impression people aspire to be like her

I don't think we can assume that the distant relative who lent them money was a loan shark; after all, he wasn't the one who ultimately called in the debt. He probably suspected that the Winns/Taylors had no intention of repaying the money and wasn't going to let them fool him into being left with nothing.

Yes, like you say, I quite like yoga, and I actually love meditation. But I was doing both before I got ill and as I got more unwell so I don't think they are going to be the miracle cure people think

I had a brief look on Amazon at her other books and kind of surprised they seem to have been popular too, with lots of five star reviews. Other reviewers say they are similar though with the whinging and piety etc

This, and also 'Penguin Random House - they're my publishers - '

Oh wow, Richard Osman off the telly, you scored an immense deal with the UK's most prestigious literary publishing house? Who could have predicted that?!

I find Richard osman quite unbearable and have never understood the love for him tbh!!

In the circumstances, he would have been an absolute idiot to not put a charge on the house.

And, as someone else pointed out in thread 1 or 2, loan sharks don't charge 18% per annum interest, it's more like 20% per month!!

And also,her "selfless" fundraising may need to be looked into as well. There was somebody back on one of the earlier threads who had bought tickets to a fundraising event she was speaking at, at £50 a ticket if I recall clearly. That person said that the organisers had cancelled but had also mentioned that her speakers fee was enormous. So if her "fundraising" also came with fees attached, it throws a very different light on her selflessness. A bit like, much as I never bought into the Captain Tom thing, the entire family being given a "dream holiday" in Barbados in December 2020, which I found rather tone deaf. I was "blah" about all the hype, but if he was gifted such a holiday, ok for a carer to go, but his entire family including grandchildren?

I think it was more in a "To declare an interest, or possible conflict of interest, PRH are my publishers too" sense.

it’s the Lance Armstrong defence of ‘I did so much for charity you need to ignore the other stuff’. Also provided a shield for Savile.

Well precisely! And Michael Jackson sang Earth Song to help save the planet. Fans will always be under the spell of what they worship and unable to see the truth. Covering up major crimes with blind denials and emotional appeals. There's people who will stick with this pair because they need to, and I'm sure the couple themselves will side with that angle, but no one with a grasp on reality is fooled.

Would you mind linking to it?

Here it is:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DLzTTX0tHCX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Fair point, although it's weird that that poster just has one post.

I don't think I've seen this article linked anywhere:
https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/grains-salt-raynor-winn-moth-britain-scandal-publishing-nonfiction.php

Look up her name on Google:

Neda Gharani

I've got to log off now. But she seems to be medical? Or at least, someone pretending to be her is.

@JanineLory Just wanted to say that i empathise with you. I haven't really heard of the book or film, but like you, I have a neurological condition that isnt curable.

I do believe in neuroplasticity and I think the brain is quite adaptable. I've had 3 concussions too over the years, and my brain has somewhat adapted to be kind of ok. I'd love to think there really is a way of curing my movement disorder but as it's caused by some prescribed off label antipsychotic drugs, I'm pretty sure it isnt going to get totally better.

Don't give up hope though. Just because the book has been proven to be lies, doesn't mean you can't improve ❤️

Her IG account indicates that she has changed her name on IG.

OMG people. Look up "Neda Gharani" on Google images. Four differnet people with that name - one a man - all being listed as "Director, Precision Medicine Consulting Services at Gharani Consulting Ltd"

Something VERY fishy going on here!!!!

I've been trying to find the interview with Chloe the journalist that was on LBC this morning about 12.50.

All I could find was the very tail end of it on the catchup of the next show, only about a minute!

But he said to her he's very much looking forward to the next installment, and to talking with her next week about it.

So. Guess there's definitely more to come!

I think they mean truth as in "my truth". As uttered by the incredibly truthful Prince Harry.

Yes. But he will have been Tim Walker at his scans and medical appointments so they wouldn’t have connected their patient to Moth Winn of literary fame unless they saw a photo or saw them on TV.

And he could well have been formally discharged from the consultant as not having CBD so he would have been a historic patient. Nothing medical related will becomes public knowledge unless they releaae it. And the fact they haven’t already done so speaks volumes.

Everyone in my bookclub hated TSP, one woman even wrote notes as she was reading on what bits REALLY pissed her off and we all agreed with them 😂

That's a shame, he seems really genuine to me

I'm so sorry to hear that you have a neurological condition. I think you make an important point, and we should be aware that how we talk about this scandal can affect people like yourself.

If these two have lied about moth's condition and the walking "curing" him, then the truth needs to come out. Having hope is good, but it does no good to think some people are cured by just walking or drinking juice (or whatever). In fact it can damage some people as they stop trusting conventional therapies chasing a cure that doesn't exist. Or others may say to someone like yourself with a neurological condition, "all you need to do is go on a hike!" - which I'm sure most would find insulting.

There are real stories, with evidence, out there of people who have regained some abilities after neurological illnesses. And many more stories of people who have lived full lives despite their conditions. So there is still hope, but we mustn't muddy the waters by not letting go of the stories that are proven false or misleading (how ever inspiring they were made to sound).

Yeah, I don't think it was even that, just saying he knows the company involved in the same way he often says he worked with some production company when they come up as involved with something on the podcast.

(I mean, I agree with pps that he's getting awfully blokesplainy of late, and keeps interrupting MH, but I don't find it problematic that he said they were his publisher. I think it was relevant in the same way that MH saying she was currently adapting something for the screen was relevant to their point about how small the reading public is compared to the people who will see a film, or at least be aware of it via actors doing promotion etc).

One of the other things that struck me in the TRIE episode was that they placed The Salt Path controversy squarely in the context of the current fixation on 'authenticity', and the appetite on somewhere little Tattle Life for analysing influencers for inauthenticity/white lies/ omissions in the way they present themselves, which is seen as a betrayal.