Ordered mounjaro, right or wrong?

[rightorwrong25]

Evening/morning, Apologies im posting here for traffic

Ive just ordered mounjaro, currently waiting for my photos to be "accepted"

Always said I wouldn't, that I'd just be able to lock in and be fine.. 'i've done it before' but its been a couple of years and im just miserable.

Tried the first website that came up and I wasn't considered at all, so the next site I added an extra 7lbs. Which is most probably true, even at kindest! Not weighed myself since I outgrew a size 12 which I swore to myself I never would again.

I've just heard so many success stories from using it, I do feel its gonna be a quick fix!? Ive flicked through threads and articles and had friends experiences but id like to hopefully chat with someone now about it.

Im currently-
50% just get it done its stupid to wait til you get even fatter
50% dont take it, not worth it, just try harder to cut back/move more,
(even though you've already tried that and its just not working currently, mainly because I feel too fat and lumpy to move)

Just need some unbiased level heads please MNers!

My BMI was just under 30 but I have arthritis and high cholesterol which meant I was accepted. I’ve done one month so far - and lost a lot. I just don’t feel hungry and have gone off alcohol almost totally. Had some last night and don’t feel great this morning. I will do one more month and likely stop. Very happy with it.

This. The medication isn’t for people who have a small amount of weight to loose.

The NHS doesn't consider mounjaro high risk @NoTouch .

And this

Before taking it you should weigh yourself. Do you even need it? Don't lie about your weight. The medication is there to help obese people don't take it if you are not obese.
Also from what I have heard from some people it isn't a quick fix. You still have to do the work

You should not have added 7lb to your weight.

Using Mounjaro when you're not within the prescribing parameters is dangerous and foolish.

What is your actual BMI when you haven't added the fake 7lb to your weight?

Btw I'm totally against people not being honest with the online pharmacies when applying for the drug

Agree. It's a very stupid thing to do. Just tell the truth FFS

If your depth of research is Google AI (which has a disclaimer at the bottom of every reply - AI responses may include mistakes.) and its biased responses you will never get the full story. Perhaps look at multiple and more credible sources.

The NHS may consider it a safe medication within the NHS, that is because they give the necessary qualified and trained medical oversight for each patient as an individual to ensure it is being used and prescribed appropriately and safely and support around lifestyle changes too through the persons whole treatment. This is why it is taking the NHS so long to roll out. Remote prescribing from pharmacies is a very different ball park.

The GPhC reclassified Mounjaro as high risk around Feb 2025 and introduced more stringent prescribing rules for pharmacies for patient safety. Pharmacies need to comply by these rules now. Some pharmacies are now starting to get inspections and 28 day enforcement notices.

A significant aspect around the risk profile of the medication is when it is prescribed without adequate medical oversight. This thread is a prime example of someone not doing their research and trying to obtain medication when they haven't even stepped on a set of scales and very obviously do not understand the medication. There was a story in the papers recently of a woman in hospital after a few months on the medication - it is clear she raced up the doses chasing suppression but the medical oversight wasn't there to say hold on you are losing quick enough (40lbs in 12 weeks I think it said) lets keep you on the same dose.

I don't know you, you may be a fairly responsible Mounjaro user and done some research, but don't be so naive to think everyone else does which is why it has to be classed as high risk and guidelines made more robust to increase the oversight by pharmacies to keep patients safe. If you do not understand the risks it is worth doing some further research before throwing around accusations and trying to state fact based on Google AI of all things!

By OP's own admission, she is at the higher end of overweight and is not obese.
I'm tall and broad; 13 stone does actually only make me a bit overweight.
Thus, your condescending last paragraph carries no weight with me. 😁👍

I don't use mounjaro currently @NoTouch.

Have you thoughts on the high risk of obesity?

And yes I did also read the information from gphc by the way.

Maybe the definition of high risk would be useful as well.

I'm just under the prescribing bmi for obesity for mounjaro currently. But I have "high risk" from other conditions. I have high blood pressure (medicated), low thyroid function (medicated), have had bloods straying into pre diabetes occasionally which I've lost weight for (non medically or surgically) and my mother and maternal grandmother have had type 2 diabetes. We also have high arthritis in the family which has caused multiple joint replacement surgeries.

I welcome the online pharmacies being properly regulated of course.

So, as you say, the high risk part is of the prescribing of the injections. Adverse reactions are being studied currently.

Also I'm confused why you @NoTouch have also linked a photo also from AI ?

Try BodySlims it’s really excellent, it totally changed my life. Not a crazy diet, you walk every day for one hour and do what they tell you for 10 weeks, it really works.

New course is starting in September and there is a live on today on Facebook and instagram at 7pm.

Honestly it works. Everyone I know that did it lost weight and felt great. It’s expensive now as it’s 250 but life changing. Maybe it’s just what you need now, something really positive.

The GPhC classified GLP1s as being at high risk of abuse. Hence tightening the rules for access.

Perhaps that's why you made the fundamentally ignorant mistake of thinking someone who needs to lose a couple of stone can't be obese then.

As I said, if you're going to wade in on such matters, familiarise yourself with the basics. Then you won't be such easy pickings for condescension.

Came on to say this.

Also insulin is high risk. Should that be limited?

I have a feeling this is simply one of those tiresome threads to bash mounjaro.

Here’s the thing….
If it was so high risk then as soon as your BMI dropped below 30 you’d have to stop taking it.
but no it seems once you’ve started you can stay on it for as long as you like, even if your BMI falls to 23.
Also what about body shape? If you’re apple shaped with a BMI of 28 you would probably have a waist well more than twice your height which comes with similar health risks as someone who is obese.

so personally I can’t see why you cant take it with a sub 30 bmi.

I linked another AI just to demonstrate how biased AI is depending on the question you ask it.

Yes, I have thought about the risks of obesity. I have been using Mounjaro for over a year for exactly that reason, and over 110lbs weight loss, my high blood pressure is no longer medicated and I have come off other medications, my mobility is much improved.

The argument is not whether WLI are amazing medications, there is no doubting they are and no question they are changing and saving lives and those that need them should have access to them, but they also need to be understood and respected and patients need to be prescribed safely and monitored to avoid harm - whether that harm comes from taking risks with the medication following tweaks on social media, or losing weight too rapidly, or going up doses too quickly, or neglecting lifestyle changes, or aiming for too low or unsustainable a BMI. It is no wonder the GPhC and Drs are very concerned. Too many people buy the medication from online pharmacies and think because they are easily available to buy they can treat them like they are a harmless supplement and that is a serious concern.

Obesity is such a complex subject, and there is also a lot of emotion and social pressures tied into it, some people are desperate, have too high expectations of the medication, or perhaps have disordered eating (diagnosed or undiagnosed/they don't recognise) - part, not all, of the high risk classification accounts for patient behaviours. These injections are already going to a group of people who have issues around food and control (or they wouldn't be obese and need it medicating) and they need to be supported to remain safe.

If you have done your homework, have problems with food and control, have exhausted alternative avenues before considering medicating your obesity I would absolutely recommend them to you to improve your health and I would also advise anyone who does take them to treat them with the seriousness they deserve, don't try to rush it, they are a long term treatment and no progress should be chased at the cost of safety. Think beyond the medication and the behavioural aspects for long term success and health.

But you can't know your BMI unless you weigh yourself. Just weigh yourself.

Don't you have to prove weight or something for those things?

This comes up a lot, and the difference is that obesity is defined by the WHO as a chronic, complex, multifactorial disease. Obesity is a BMI over 30, not below - even if only just.

Because of its chronic nature, that means obesity recurs. So someone who meets the diagnostic criteria for the disease of obesity and takes medication that 'cures' the disease may still require that medication so that the disease does not recur.

Similarly, you can take medication for high blood pressure and your blood pressure will become lower. But a person who already has lower blood pressure cannot take that medication. They don't have the condition that the medication treats.

That's why people who are not obese cannot take Mounjaro unless they are already on it and it's the reason that they are no longer obese. I think the confusion occurs because many people don't think of obesity as a disease; however that's how it's classified by the WHO and that's why prescription guidelines are set as they are.

I'm doing my homework and have been thinking about whether I should use wli for over a year @NoTouch. (One of my main considerations is ongoing cost).

I don't think you replied to those comments on here about the high risk being high risk of abuse. Rather than the content of the drug itself? This is why I pulled you up on it.

Thank God most people possess the fundamentally basic skill of not reverting to trite condescension on MN.
Have the day you deserve. 💚

This attempt at the moral high ground is laughable. Earlier today you were shaming people for taking WLIs for being a couple of stone overweight despite the fact that for a huge number of people that will make them obese, all because you couldn't be arsed to google before sticking the boot in. That sort of behaviour is disgusting. Imagine if an obese person who'd benefit from WLI read it, felt shamed and avoided accessing beneficial treatment because of you.

I'd like to hope you've learned something from this exchange and won't behave like that again, but based on your attitude that would be optimistic.

ODFOD.

Naturally, you weren't able to formulate a response to what I actually wrote. Says it all!

Anyway, for those reading who might be thinking about WLIs, if you're short then a couple of stone may very well make you obese. Do have a look at your BMI, rather than listening to scolding from geniuses who struggle with the concept of a human being less than five two.