… To be considering leaving the UK?

[globalnomad25]

We have been considering leaving, even if only for a few years. Many of our clients have already gone or are planning it, and some of our friends too.

I’m not sure where we’d go: UAE, Portugal, Jersey, Ireland, Canada, Australia? We don’t currently want to move to the US, even though that would probably make the most sense from a business/client point of view.

For those out there who have already left, how has it gone? Was it a horrible mistake or are you glad you did it?

For those also thinking about it, where would you go?

Kids are school-aged and smart and used to international travel as our work already takes us all over, although they’d miss their friends (as would we). We aren’t English so our family is already based all over the place, although we visit them frequently.

@Firethehorse where are you ? (Broad region). I’m not a big fan of the Middle East, I am applying to jobs in Switzerland - some cantons have super low taxes and no inheritance taxes. Those who take take take, I’ll say goodbye - I am not super highly paid but last year I paid £260,000 in taxes and soon that money won’t be here any more. I also heard Italy has some tax advantages although I wouldn’t have global income (plan to sell my house that’s quite some cash). Thanks so much !

There have always been a lot of British immigrants in Australia. (£10 poms).
Years ago we followed Uni mates to Australia. We could have stayed as were in shortage professions. We didn't stay for man reasons. Recently, DC have gone for a few years but they decided to come back too.
My neice and her girlfriend, both doctors came back too.

Australian fiends and relatives are constantly complaining about cost of living, immigration, tax, people living of the state, and climate change.

The grass is not always greener.

Singapore is perfect imo. Virtually no crime

I don't get the Australia hype whatsoever. I work in London and I've met so many Aussies who have moved to London for fun. They find Australia too quiet and boring and find London full of life and excitement.

Also quick trips to the EU from here.

No shit Sherlock! Don't you think that as a family who are already well versed in international travel and with family in other countries, that this would be something they're well aware of. What a patronising comment, are you a man?

I’m in South East Asia right now. We’ve been in a fair few Countries and another Continent too. Some moves we have orchestrated but others not

You can, as a UK National, up and move to Ireland, Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey without a visa or residency permit to live, work or study due to the Common Travel Area agreement.

Well £260k taxes is not to be sniffed at. I can see why you’d go but Labour are hitting the tax take.

I think Switzerland would have less extreme heat than Dubai. Good choice

Absolutely. I myself will move to Europe from Australia when my son finishes high school. I need history, art, old castles and the proximity to Europe. I'm not sporty, and I don't care for the outdoorsy, sunny lifestyle that Australia provides. I was just stating the fact that I am surrounded by Poms, and that I've never so far heard of anyone planning to go back.

I left the UK for Ireland in the early 2000s, and left there for Australia in 2013. I love all three countries, but I prefer Oz. I get paid much more, the weather is glorious and I was able to buy a beautiful house that I would only have dreamt of in the UK. It’s not perfect, nowhere is, but I love it and am very glad we made the leap. We are going back to the UK and Ireland for a visit in a few weeks, I look forward to seeing it again, and see if I think it has changed much.

I moved to the UAE for work, I was building a few homes on the side in the UK, it's not economical anymore, my projects will be sold in the next 2 months. All out clients are overseas so the UK office has been closed.

The UAE isn't a great place to work if you are employed here (long hours for many people) but it makes sense if you have young children and the country is designed to be easy for ex pat life. Healthcare and schools are all private, they are generally high standard. A lot of schools follow UK curriculum.

Its highly competitive for jobs and salaries in some roles are much lower than the UK eg accountants, IT, builders, are paid a much less than they would get in the UK.

Its sad to see the decline of the UK under Labour and the Conservatives. The economy is the middle east is growing rapidly, they are transitioning away from oil and are growing non oil industries hugely. The UAE has highly selective immigration policies, no benefits systems and is thriving.

I feel genuinely worried for the UK when I read the comments on here. The UK has lots of advantages but they are being dismantled by successive governments (Labour in particular). The world is global and the UK is falling behind.

On top of it's insane infrastructure, legal system, education and energy policies it's losing highly productive job creators and investors who pay lots of tax and replacing them with unproductive low skill immigrants who consume taxes - eg it's getting poorer, reducing its tax revenues and increasing government costs (more to pay for).

I too am surrounded by Poms in NZ, many of whom have been here for years, who have no intention of returning.

Its sad to see the decline of the UK under Labour and the Conservatives. The economy is the middle east is growing

well the decline is partly because the electorate only vote for whoever doles out the most in benefits and least in taxes- the winter fuel allowance was a bribe to older generations by Labour and triple lock o pensions by ?cons another and the older generations vote the most.
Also telling us we must be net zero when no other country is.

Squabbling over Brexit by Labour meant it cost so much more than needed.

Apparently a third of all illegal immigrants coming to Europe want to come to the U.K. - why- can only be benefits and free health and education social housing. because we are no longer a successful country offering a sound future. No other country would put up with this.

Triple lock and WFA were introduced because Pensions are so low in the UK, around 50% of the NMW.
Plus when introduced, the UK was relatively booming, growth under Labour was around 3%pa.

We had functioning public services in the 2000's ... now nothing works, nothing at all, the latest is the courts system... the party to blame is the Tories... but down to Labour to try and fix.

Ha ha Blaming Labour for Brexit... FFS they were in opposition and the Tories hade a decent majority, how about attaching blame to the party that gave us Brexit???

People come to the UK mainly because of our un regulated Labour market, our language but primarily because once here, they are highly unlikely to be deported but of course you ignore the real issue - legal migration!

1m were coming here each year in the final years of the Tory Govt... with little in the way of checks to make sure they leave when their visa expires.

Rightly implemented legal migration promotes economic growth. It is how you do it, not the concept as such. Labour could easily sort this out if they had the skills to do so.

And whilst the Tories negligently called for a Brexit vote, it is the population that voted for it!
You know have Labour backbenchers trying to ruin the country as well. The ideologies on both the far left and far right do not work. They are counter to the best interests of the country long term. It is people with egos trying to throw them around.

They have cut legal migration by 500k in just a few months.

Why didn't the Tories have the right skills if its sooooo easy to do? they had 14 years o get it right....

Why do people attribute this to the wrong gov?

The visa rule changes were implemented by last, any new ones will take time to have effect.

“Why didn't the Tories have the right skills if it’s sooooo easy to do? they had 14 years o get it right....”

@Absolutely45 - I am not a partisan voter, more a fair weather friend who votes for the most sensible option at the time.

From where I am standing, as a successful dual national with options who has contributed immensely to this country (and that includes my DH too) - both educated throw own pockets as well in childhood or by another country - it seems that every time they open the borders here somewhat there is a floodgate. It was the case with EU migration too and was the case with Boris Johnson’s policies.
What we do need is selective highly skilled migration and attractive options for the rich entrepreneurs to invest here, but that offends the Lefties.

So really this current Government needs to get a grip on the far left in their own party and backtrack the non dom changes as well.

https://propertyindustryeye.com/labours-vat-raid-on-private-schools-sees-sharp-rise-in-family-homes-for-sale/

The CEO of Winkworth would not be saying this if it were not true. It is in their interests for houses to come up for sale.
The private school VAT is another major piss take by Labour which will cause long term huge harm to the country as well.

Look whilst you have Labour putting off non Doms and parents who value education, it is really not a moral high ground to stand on. These two policies are hugely harmful, just like the Tory Brexit.
It may look like a tiny majority of people that are affected, but it absolutely has a huge effect on skilled top level migration and inward investment.

You cannot have a country that has a huge amount of top rate taxpayers with dual nationalities and options abroad and just implement nonsense like this and hope for the best. It won’t work.

Ha ha All that is good is to do with the Tories... BUT all that goes wrong is down to Labour.....

Lab in power, they get the ups and the downs....

There’s no point in you posting the wrong info.

Look at the visa changes, when they happened and when the effects happened.

I know it doesn’t help your argument but no point in overriding the actual facts.

Agree. Such an own goal. The rest of us will feel it as they take other options.

Who said the Tories were good? They got booted out for selling Brexit and then allowing in thousands and thousands of lower skilled migrants. And if Labour do not sort out the mess, then Reform will be in next.
Let me tell you that some in the City of London now expect Reform to get in and Farage is talking to some of the top level experts in Finance, Economics etc trying to get them on board. However, he is most likely a snake, will use the experts and then ditch them last minute and we may all be screwed. So absolutely Labour under Starmer have to get their big boy pants on and sort out this mess and boot out all the Corbynites for a start. Perhaps we may even see some more moderate Tories join Labour after all. If you love your country you should do what is best for it and sod the ideology. Wes Streeting and Starmer can sort this out if they actually bother to start focussing on the country. The general population is easily swayed by nonsense rhetoric - we all now that. Vast swathes of the country are Reform now, I say ignore it and plough on with doing stuff that actually works.
Anyone who can afford it should get their solar panels up etc. It is happening in my neighbourhood.
I reckon Labour should rebrand as a Centrist party that is economically savvy and should just lead with strength.