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AIBU to work outside of work hours?

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Greywarden · 05/07/2025 09:51

DH and I both work full-time. We have a toddler DD. I have posted before about how much we are struggling with things like housework, decluttering and generally managing our routines, and have received some great advice which has helped a lot. I'm hoping I might get some helpful advice again.

DH is more senior than I am at work - he is a manager and earns a fair bit more. His role has a lot of stresses involved. However, he has been in the job for a long time and gets a lot of flexibility over his calendar and over what tasks he takes on. He is almost always able to finish work at 5pm and then leave it 'at the door'.

In contrast my role is more middling and is stressful in a different way. My job also represents a significant promotion and change from my previous work. It has been a steep learning curve for me since I started a year and a half ago. My position is actually a training role that involves studying for a uni course alongside my work; my module results get sent to my manager so I always feel under scrutiny, and if I do not pass the course, I will lose my job. There is the prospect of me equalling or surpassing DH's salary in a few years if all goes well but there is a lot of competition for jobs in my field and taking further steps up the career ladder is dependent on showing you've gone above and beyond in your role, leading projects, doing research on top of your regular job etc.

Here's the issue: I often find myself with work to do that I cannot complete within my working hours. What I tend to do is come home shortly after 5, do things with DH and DD, then get down to work again after DD is asleep. Ideally I'd do this maybe 3 nights a week. I generally avoid any work on weekends, although have had to do this a few times when big deadlines have loomed.

My DH hates that I do this. He says that seeing me working in the evenings makes it hard for him to relax; that it stops us from having enough quality time together; that it means that he ends up doing more with DD than I do and he does not get enough breaks (I'm dubious about this one as I still am the one who seems to get up with her most mornings whilst he has a lie-in); and that he is worried about my mental health given how much stress I seem to be under. He keeps saying I should just say no to some of the work I'm being given. He also points out - and he is right on this - that some of the things I'm doing are as a result of me agreeing to be part of extra projects beyond the remit of my job role and that I shouldn't be doing this when I'm already struggling with my workload.

My arguments are that: doing extra work outside of regular hours goes with the territory of my job (literally everyone else on my uni course and everyone else at a similar level to me at work is doing late nights and weekend work); that I'm actually doing less than a lot of my colleagues; that I have to show willing for extra projects if I'm going to have any chance of further promotion; that he was the one who supported me to go for this job in the first place and that I'd warned him from the start about what would be involved. I'd add that his disapproval of me working in the evenings is actually making my stress levels worse because now I'm having to put work aside to hang out / watch TV with him, then wake up very early in the mornings to do the extra work instead. In secret. I'm shattered. I don't socialise with friends or do hobbies anymore because I worry it would be too selfish of me to do this when I'm already taking time away from family life to work.

My DH has suggested that I don't worry about promotions etc and that maybe I'd be happier if I went part-time to have more time with DD, or moved back into a less stressful position. He's probably right: I would be happier. But opportunities like the one I've got now are gold dust in my profession and I don't want to waste it. DH is also a lot older than I am and wants to retire soon - he's full of plans about travelling the world with friends etc and sees it as my turn to pay for a larger proportion of things, and I don't get how we're going to afford the future he wants if I step back in my own career.

Who is being unreasonable? I get so angry when he asks me to do less work, like it feels as though he sees my work as trivial and is accusing me of being inefficient. But I'm not stupid and I'm not inefficient, and my work is important, and I'm working as hard as I can in my working hours (never take a lunch break etc) but it just never seems to be enough. At the same time I worry that I'm being selfish and letting my family down. It feels like I'll be letting them down whatever I do to be honest.

I'll add that I do actually love spending time with my DH and am not trying to use work to avoid him, but understandably I think he suspects this.

YABU to work outside of work hours
YANBU to do this

OP posts:
daleylama · 07/07/2025 08:05

LaySW · 05/07/2025 10:16

I do have to question at times the motivation behind some people having children if they are not only going to work full time, but also have to work/study into evenings aswell.

Just seems ridiculous to me.

Helpful much?

HollyhockDays · 07/07/2025 08:21

My DH cannot maintain work boundaries. He works every evening and weekend. Seeing him hunched over his laptop is really annoying. It feels almost lonely in the evenings.

I get that you want to progress in work but you are setting up working patterns that are hard to break.

Parker231 · 07/07/2025 09:17

LaySW · 05/07/2025 10:16

I do have to question at times the motivation behind some people having children if they are not only going to work full time, but also have to work/study into evenings aswell.

Just seems ridiculous to me.

You don’t think women who are mothers should have a career and work hard to progress to a more senior position ? Do you think the same about men who are fathers?

Ormally · 07/07/2025 09:42

Interesting set of circumstances to think about. I can definitely identify with the situation of a DP who has a lot more flexibility over his diary and can call the shots, move meetings or work out a particular day off if needed, against a part-time work pattern but one that has meant that some days or times are non-negotiable for going to school events. DH also works from home more than 50 percent of the time.

This looks as if you need to support each other (including supporting DC and vice-versa) in being able to run each 'programme of activities' so they fit alongside each other. People do have to change their behaviour when someone is in the home for time needing quiet and focussed work, or indeed more noisy virtual training or calls that are work-related. It's not essential, but much more successful if the quietness can happen. In my case this has affected my DD's behaviour (now teen, but the 'is it working at home, or living at work? juggle began in lockdown) and she has become much more withdrawn and in her own bubble, when at home, than we wanted. You would like support for the studying that you are doing for you, and he would like more support in the way of sociability and having home more as a place to relax and keep work at bay. The stresses that come with each aspect are a bit different in each case. When I knew someone studying intensively with children under 11, they also took on exam marking over the summer to improve things financially (a choice, but a forced one). This relationship didn't last and both parents were too stressed by spreading themselves very thinly even when expecting this was only a 2-3 year thing. They were both successful, career-wise, later, though. So I would say: make careful and strong effort to keep things normal and sociable for your children (not just activities, but having friends at home, and fun things), and be aware of how you and your DP approach times where stress and responsibility are what you feel are making demands.

Thepeopleversuswork · 07/07/2025 09:48

LaySW · 05/07/2025 10:16

I do have to question at times the motivation behind some people having children if they are not only going to work full time, but also have to work/study into evenings aswell.

Just seems ridiculous to me.

Are you aware that some people need to work full time to support their children? Or that studying in the evening significantly improves their ability to support their children in the future?

If you seriously don't understand this you should educate yourself a bit.

But I'm 99% sure you do and you're just looking for a fight.

celandiney · 07/07/2025 10:15

DH is also a lot older than I am and wants to retire soon - he's full of plans about travelling the world with friends etc

My take away from this is how is this compatible with the family life and fair division of labour in the home he seems to want from you?
He won't be there for DD, or to spend quality time in the evenings with you, or to share chores.....( or perhaps with you enjoying the optimum mental health either?)
I suppose it does depend whether "travelling the world with friends" means several individual holidays to Europe , or regular months away - but I was in a relationship with someone who had much more time and money to travel and do things we would both have enjoyed - it wasn't workable - it wasn't just the time apart but the increasing gulf between our experiences day to day.( And as the non traveller it is very hard to maintain the interest and "so happy you had a great time" when you can't share that time and would like to.)

whatcanthematterbe81 · 07/07/2025 10:17

LaySW · 05/07/2025 10:16

I do have to question at times the motivation behind some people having children if they are not only going to work full time, but also have to work/study into evenings aswell.

Just seems ridiculous to me.

You’re gross

OneWittyGuide · 07/07/2025 21:03

Is this period of stress short term? If so, then tell hubby to suck it up! It will be worth it in the long run and you don’t want your end up resenting him

Ddakji · 07/07/2025 21:38

The point still remains @Greywarden whether it’s in 5 or 10 years time - your DH appears to be planning to check out of family life when he still has a dependant child. The teen years are challenging!

Pennyforyourthoughtsplease · 07/07/2025 22:06

Huh, you have a child why don't you have a joint bank account? Your money should be pooled, what does this mean it as my turn to pay for a larger proportion of things
I read that as you have separate money (which I find weird if people are married or have children) so why is he encouraging you to have less. I genuinely don't understand this kind of set up in a relationship where one person has more than the other.

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