To think it's actually OK to recline your seat on a long haul flight?

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I always thought it was just one of those things, but this poll seems to make out it's anti-social behaviour. And that hack is just batshit.

Best life hack to stop air passengers reclining their seat | Chester and District Standard

So you would physically injury someone sat behind you?

Never understood why using a seat function as intended gets people worked up so much. I don’t love it when the person in front reclines, but I just tend to take that as my cue to do the same. And in fact I couldn’t sit bolt upright for an extended flight now.

It’s airlines squeezing space more and more that is at fault, not passengers wanting economy long haul to be a bit less awful.

As for upgrading to business if you want to recline - well the same could be said about not wanting others to recline into your space. Pay for business and nobody using their seat as designed is going to impact you at all.

I have a bad back which would be made worse by sitting upright (and even if I didn't l like chilling back on a plane with headphones and a drink etc dozing off ) so I would absolutely expect them or me to be moved or them to stand
if they are risking injury by flying dependent on some mug sat in front of them not being able to relax then they are batshit nuts.

I think they mean why should they be impacted personally when someone sitting in front of a shorter person just lounge until their hearts were content?

I get what you are saying completely , truly I do , but it's giving the decision to individuals to exercise their own free will and who you are sat behind/ in front of is down to luck. It's not their problem essentially.

Fucking hell what world are you living in? You honestly would expect someone sat behind you to stand on a flight so that you can lounge back? Unreal. You are utterly deluded.

Your comfort does not come first to anyone but yourself. If you cannot recline because someone’s legs physically prevent it, that’s tough luck I’m afraid. You’ll get nowhere trying to force them to stand!

No they wouldn’t be moved as it’s up to them if they want to cross their legs - and you couldn’t recline your seat as that poster said once they’ve crossed their legs there’s no space. And of course they wouldn’t stand for you .

You would possibly be moved if they had spare seats but on many flights there’s none.

I have no issue with someone reclining but the “I will do as I please” attitude and super angry about it to boot, I find difficult. Basic courtesy would really go a long way on flights.

The seat would go back it would just be uncomfortable for the person behind

a steward would need to come to tell them to uncross legs as the seat in front is unable to recline - which while uncomfortable or not ideal for them would be a perfectly reasonable request.
they would just need to uncross their legs end of
it’s not rocket science
if there is a a disability preventing this then I repeat they should not be flying or in an appropriate seat

honestly anyone would think us recliners wants to bounce in the seat behinds laps
and lick their faces

we just want to- and will- lay back outside of meal times to chill and be more comfy
end of

I’m not tall so I haven’t had this but according to that poster no it can’t go back if they cross their legs. That’s what you seem to be missing.

And no a steward won’t tell them to uncross their legs. It’s not school, people are allowed to sit as they please. You are totally delusional if you think they’ll tell someone to uncross their legs for your sake.

Exactly, I remember one man reclined slightly then looked around to where I was and said “have I reclined too far into you”.

I thought it was lovely he showed consideration and said no you’re good but thanks for asking!

Conversely you get the idiots that don’t even want to put their seats back up during meal times - which is part of the rules - and you’re left to tell cabin crew to remind them of that rule!

Absolutely.

Hands up anyone who has ever seen someone having to stand up for the whole flight because of a reclined chair ? In 52 years of flying I have never seen this .

No one is saying they have seen one

lardy thinks that if the person behind has some issue which means she can’t recline then that person should move or stand

Ah I see what you mean - sorry !
in that case I’d swap with my husband who is a big heavy chap
So I guess then it would be a battle of wills
his bulk pushing back against their strong knees pushing forward..
and may the best man win..🏆

No husband swapping mid flight. That is not what aircraft are for. There are other establishments on the ground for such activities. 😀

Hahah brilliant lol xxx

That’s exactly what Im saying - crikey I think that people think if they keep putting more extreme examples of who is sat behind eg by reclining you are going to ‘crush a newborn babes in arms to smitherines’ or cause ‘life long injuries’ to a tall bloke
I mean honestly …
the seats are designed to recline
I buy a seat
I use it
i sit or sleep in it as is my want
I recline it if I fancy
etc etc

if anyone is actually facing the type of challenges being described on here by being sat behind me, then they either need to buy two seats so they can spread out more/ not fly/ upgrade seat/ travel by other means/ or stay home …

their issues do not interest me or trump
me using the seat I’ve paid for for the purpose it was designed and intended.

In that case then there has never been this issue 😂

The anger is really odd- why would you not be polite in a public space?

@stillawip said that their knees press against the seat in front which means the person in front is physically unable to recline.

@Lardychops thinks anyone physically preventing her from reclining should be expected to stand because she is the center of the universe and the boss “end of” 😂 OR she believes that having her husband use his considerable weight to try and force the seat back into that person is perfectly acceptable.

Lardy also believes that people with disabilities shouldn’t fly if their disability means that the person in front cannot recline, even though she has said herself that she cannot physically sit up right because of her bad back, and it has never crossed her mind that perhaps she shouldn’t fly if she has needs which are dependant on others.

I am a recliner on my long haul flights. I notice that many European destination planes do not recline at all which is fine for short haul. I sleep a great deal on planes. I recline as soon as we are allowed to but pull up for meals and drink services. I am aware of the headrest pullers which sometimes cannot be avoided and of the screen punchers who I assume have never used touch screen before or are using it as a weapon 😂. It happens , it's usually brief . They get bored . I've occasionally had the knee digger but now fly on premium economy so it's more spacious to start with. I don't mind people in front of me reclining.

If someone is built in such a way that a person in front of them using their seat as it is intended to be used would cause them physical injury, then it's up to them to book a seat with extra legroom and/or take other steps to remedy the situation.

I still would not injury the person behind me intentionally - this attitude boggles my mind. I always aim to be polite and respectful and would be upset if some hurt me on a flight. Thankfully I only travel economy on short haul where seats don’t recline so the issue is moot and the flight is under an hour, we are flying to Vietnam long haul next and will be in business class as I would hate all this passive behaviour for 16 hrs.

I forgive the screen punchers. Screens can become less sensitive (l suspect due to greasy fingers from food) and the only way to get them to behave is to press really hard.

I would not intentionally hurt anyone either. And I would expect a person who knows that sitting behind someone who may very well use their seat in the manner for which it was intended was likely to cause harm, to take action to prevent this happening - eg, book seat with extra legroom, etc.