To think it really is a man's world?

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We all know it is, but itv1 confirmed it even more for me today by calling the Euros tournament the 'women's euro tournament'. TV stations sure as hell don't introduce men's tournaments with their gender in the introduction.

See also 'x years since England have won y' when the women's team won it last year! I always always refer to the England team as the Lionesses mens team. I hate seeing 'football' and 'women's football'. Like when police were PC and WPC, you know which is the 'proper' one and which the weird one. YANBU

This is absolutely true. Indeed there was an article in a newspaper about a year ago how everything from mobile phones,to stab vests,crash test dummies,drugs,and office temperatures are designed for men. Presumably by men. Men are the 'default' human being.

Of course it is, but I think there's definitely improvement, especially with womens' sport. A few years ago, we'd not even be hearing about the various tournaments.

And I have noticed a tendency to say "men's world cup" etc over the past couple years. It's definitely improving. In fact, I was really pleased at first and now I'm just fed up I'm being forced to watch twice as much football by DH 😂

As an American, living in the UK I would often get "Americans are shit at football" from men who feel the need to say something when they hear my accent down the pub. I'd reply that while the men were shit, the women were the best in the world thank you very much.

They'd usually reply, "but that's just women though, they'd not beat the men"🙄 Funny the way gold medals count when women get them but World Cups don't?

Our active travel changing rooms in my office building (two years old) have so obviously been designed by men - both basic architecture and fit-out. Six shower cubicles and two toilet cubicles but only room for two women to get changed. No private cubicles and if you want to change in the shower cubicle the floor is soaking wet.

Of course it is - women’s health is woefully underfunded and we aren’t taken seriously. Pharmaceutical companies thought solving erectile dysfunction was more important than a lot of other things

Men are the 'default' human being.

Is that short for design fault human being 😀

Of course it is.

HTH.

The book Invisible Women outlines this in great detail, I’d highly recommend it.

On the topic of football, it’s really pissed me off is none of our local pubs have said they will be showing the games. Yet during the men’s tournament you can’t move for England flags.

I have my young niece for tea every Wednesday and pick her up from school after ‘Girl football’. The school promote this as ‘Girl football’. Every week I tell her “You know, you don’t have to call it girl football. You can just call it football” and she tells me that you can’t call it that because “football” is for boys. 😫

Even these days ?? That is so frustrating and sad in equal measure.

Really hit me when I had a baby and lived in central London. It was obvious that no one who had designed anything had ever been a first time clumsy new mum with a buggy. The “just fold it up” instruction on the bus. How?! When the baby is asleep and all your bags hanging on the buggy and there’s a crowd of tutting passengers behind you?

I make a point of referring to the “men’s euro cup” and the “women’s euro cup” each and every time.

Same with the men’s world cup and the women’s world cup.

Are you a man or are you just being obnoxious with the 'HTH'? It doesn't help.

We have to stop letting it be a man's world.

At my local hospital, the men are called to their appointments as Mr John Smith. The women as Jane Smith. The men are referred to as Sir by nursing/admin staff, the wimmin as darlin' or luvvie. I call it out every single time. Every single time I get the NHS eyeroll delivered by a woman.

Yanbu

So in the odd occasion a man offers to do something, I take him up in it

As far as I know it is because whilst the women's game is for women only, what we think of as the 'men's team' is technically open, and if a woman was good enough she could play on it. it's just that they don't have the physical advantage men do so that would never happen

That founds like an individual in your clinic. I have never heard men being called by their title and women not. I know that for a fact because the other day I was in A&E and they called 'Mrs xxx' and the wrong Mrs xxx stood up and I thought how ridiculous not to use full names

A letter or email addressed to a dept of unknown professionals as "Dear Sirs" [from a female herself!]

🙄🙄🙄

I replied "Dear Madams" but it still persists.

What is the correct word to put after Dear?

Worked in NHS clinics for years….never addressed men by their title when we were calling them in! Neither did we address women as darling, luvvie etc.

I always use Sir/Madam if unsure.

It happens throughout my hospital group. There are three hospitals. It also happened a couple of weeks ago at my mother's outpatient appointment - 80 miles away.

I usually put Hi Fianance Team (or whatever the department is).

I hope whoever sent emails to Dear Sir or Madam, ended them with Yours faithfully. Had they ended them differently, that would have annoyed me more.

The traditional form of address to a number of females is "Dear Ladies". It's interesting how many women object to this and use "Dear Sirs" instead. I've never come across men who object to "Dear Sirs".

If it's to a company do you still refer to it as if it's one person though?