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why is called the SCs home when it isn't?

415 replies

cardycard · 04/07/2025 12:55

I keep seeing this scenario.

Woman with her own house. She is paying for the bills. Her DP moves in. His kids come EOW. Why do so many people say it is the SC's home?

OP posts:
Greencustardmonster · 04/07/2025 18:36

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:29

Exactly.

No one is saying you should provide a home for your boyfriend’s children or have any responsibility to do so. Frankly given how you feel about it I think you should never ever live with a man with children.

But if you choose to move him into your house then that’s you choosing to provide his kids with a home for however long he’s living with you. And if you choose to do that then I think you bear some responsibility to think it’s going to be more than a “temporary home” before you involve kids in it - maybe not legally speaking, but morally as a decent person.

PopeJoan2 · 04/07/2025 18:36

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:30

Are you opening up your home to young people?

If they were my partner’s children I would.

CheerUpPeterReid · 04/07/2025 18:36

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:29

Exactly.

No, not exactly. If a new partner invites the mother/father to move in with them and cohabit, the couple are essentially creating a home for themselves. So, by extension, the mother/father are providing a home - their home - for the child, irrespective of the ownership/tenancy/cohabiting situation.

PopeJoan2 · 04/07/2025 18:38

cardycard · 04/07/2025 14:07

How does calling it a home bring security to the poor kids? If the woman ends the relationship which she has every right to, the poor kids are going to think we have lost our home. It was never theirs or their fathers to begin with

People move home all the time. Wherever you live is your home.

Lurkingandlearning · 04/07/2025 18:41

cardycard · 04/07/2025 13:31

So if she asks him to leave, she is depriving the children of their home?

No. That house will no longer be their home. Where he moves to will then be their home.

godmum56 · 04/07/2025 18:45

verityveritas · 04/07/2025 16:12

Op was being flippant.

op it’s his home whilst he is living there irrespective of contributing to the household budgets, by extension its also his children’s home.
he can be asked to leave at any point. As soon as he leaves he and his offspring no longer have a home at that particular address. If you ask him to leave you are not making him and his kids homeless, so you don’t need to feel guilty about .

Do you consider him as a guest rather than a partner, and therefore his kids are guests?

oh ok..... ha.......ha......ha.....ha

PopeJoan2 · 04/07/2025 18:48

I wonder if this thread is created by a sc who is trying to ascertain if they have dibs on SM’s house - no you don’t unless she’s written you into her will. Apart from that you are entitled to call it your home. For practical reasons if nothing else.

op if you are writing about your own situation I wonder if you have shared your thoughts and attitude with your partner. What does he say about it?

Loadsapandas · 04/07/2025 18:50

WideawakeinSanDiego · 04/07/2025 18:14

Yes and it is the birth or adoptive parents responsibility to provide that home. Not the latest new partner of one of the birth parents.

Edited

He has provided them with a home.

The OPs home.

Where he lives.

It’s a common cock lodger move tbh.

Lurkingandlearning · 04/07/2025 18:51

cardycard · 04/07/2025 14:16

That would probably be easier than I am going to my home to see dad, then the relationship ends and oh no I have lost my home.

Children don’t say that. They don’t really give a shit about Sarah and her house. Wherever their father lives is their home until he moves then that house becomes their home. Ideally their father doesn’t involve himself with and move in with a sequence of women who ask him to move out. That would mean he and therefore his children were in temporary accommodation. But why would a woman who moves a man who has children into her house object to it being referred to as their home?

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:53

PopeJoan2 · 04/07/2025 18:38

People move home all the time. Wherever you live is your home.

Moving home all the time is different to living somewhere where you on not part of rental agreement or a homeowner and could be asked to leave any time.

OP posts:
cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:53

Lurkingandlearning · 04/07/2025 18:51

Children don’t say that. They don’t really give a shit about Sarah and her house. Wherever their father lives is their home until he moves then that house becomes their home. Ideally their father doesn’t involve himself with and move in with a sequence of women who ask him to move out. That would mean he and therefore his children were in temporary accommodation. But why would a woman who moves a man who has children into her house object to it being referred to as their home?

What do children say then?

OP posts:
cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:54

Lurkingandlearning · 04/07/2025 18:41

No. That house will no longer be their home. Where he moves to will then be their home.

So it was just a temporary home?

OP posts:
Longyitudeed · 04/07/2025 18:55

It is said in the same way people who are going out together refer to a partners children as " step children".

They aren't step children until your married, and even then you have zero obligation to them unles you get up guardianship etc..

Women who end up allowing a partner to move in and use their house as a part time unpaid home for their children, are invariably soft and mugs.

Men target such women.
Men see it as a super cheap alternative to actually paying for a home for their children.
Go find a woman with a house and move in asap.

Lurkingandlearning · 04/07/2025 18:55

cardycard · 04/07/2025 14:19

It is different if you are the homeowner and your name is on the deeds then you do own the home. If you rent or live with someone with your kids sometimes, it is not your home or it is a temporary home.

Edited

Well only if you own the house outright. If you have a mortgage and lose your job, you’d quickly find your accommodation had been as temporary as a rental.

Just don’t have a relationship with a man who has children.

shinybrightleaves · 04/07/2025 18:57

cardycard · 04/07/2025 13:28

So because he moves in with someone into a house that he did not pay for, then suddenly it becomes his childrens home too?

Yes.

If the woman is not happy with that, she should not live with the Father.

CheerUpPeterReid · 04/07/2025 18:59

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:54

So it was just a temporary home?

As I asked previously, how long would you continue to refer to it as a "temporary home"? One month, one year, 10 years after the father had moved in with his partner? After, say 5 years, would you have a graduation ceremony? "Congratulations, you have been upgraded from a temporary to permanent resident".

OP, why don't you just outline the actual problem, instead of all these ridiculous linguistic gymnastics you're trotting out?

OneFineDay22 · 04/07/2025 19:00

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:53

Moving home all the time is different to living somewhere where you on not part of rental agreement or a homeowner and could be asked to leave any time.

It really isn’t. Where you live is your home. Children are never part of any rental agreement ever, so by your logic that would mean children could never call anywhere home

TheignT · 04/07/2025 19:02

cardycard · 04/07/2025 14:35

It becomes their home but the woman can ask the father/children to leave at any time. Not really much of a home then?

So if parents rent their children haven't got a home as the landlord can ask them to leave?

So many homeless children, it's a national scandal we never knew about.

TheignT · 04/07/2025 19:03

Lurkingandlearning · 04/07/2025 18:55

Well only if you own the house outright. If you have a mortgage and lose your job, you’d quickly find your accommodation had been as temporary as a rental.

Just don’t have a relationship with a man who has children.

Oh gosh you're right, even more homeless children. We need to start a campaign about it, the majority of children must be homeless.

Miyagi99 · 04/07/2025 19:08

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:53

Moving home all the time is different to living somewhere where you on not part of rental agreement or a homeowner and could be asked to leave any time.

So someone who doesn’t own property can never move into with someone that does own property, unless they’re put on the deeds first? I mean technically that would be better but highly unlikely to happen before they’ve lived together.

Miyagi99 · 04/07/2025 19:09

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:54

So it was just a temporary home?

All homes are technically temporary.

ZoggyStirdust · 04/07/2025 19:11

cardycard · 04/07/2025 13:28

So because he moves in with someone into a house that he did not pay for, then suddenly it becomes his childrens home too?

Yes

ZoggyStirdust · 04/07/2025 19:11

cardycard · 04/07/2025 13:30

Just living somewhere makes it the children's home even though the child's father contributed nothing?

Yes

wordler · 04/07/2025 19:17

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:29

Exactly.

Come on OP what’s your personal interest in this scenario - are you the home owner, the homeless parent, the other resident parent, a former step child?

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 04/07/2025 19:34

cardycard · 04/07/2025 18:54

So it was just a temporary home?

Surely all homes are temporary homes. Very few people die in the same home they were born in.