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Cousin Coerced Into Marriage Advice Needed

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TheCoralMoose · 03/07/2025 13:19

My cousin who is 37 met someone 11 months ago.

He is much older but not as old as he said he was at first.

She never intended to marry him just go on dates and she decided not to let him move in her apartment which she owns. He had a house which he owned since learned he gave it to his daughter just after meeting my cousin.

He said he was 45 he is actually 61.

Him and my cousin had a 5 day break booked for las vegas just before she decided she no longer wanted him.
She went ahead with the vegas break because he paid a lot of money for it.

On the day before they were due to fly back she doesnt know if she was spiked or given too much alcohol but he took her very intoxicated to a chapel and they get wed.

On returning home she told him its still over then he shown her the marriage certificate.

She called her mum and dad and they came round told him to get out he said fuck off its my place as much as hers and threatened them.

What can be done?. No its not a joke thread its deadly serious.

He has said because he is older and now his daughter has his house his housing needs will be more than hers because she is younger than him.

Is this something the police will get involved in.

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Othersideofworld · 04/07/2025 23:28

Don’t you have to register to be wed in Vegas 30 days before or something? Feels fake to me!

DadBodAlready · 04/07/2025 23:53

She would have to sign the marriage cert. If she was that out of it, there is no way her signature on the cert would compare to her normal signature.

T1Dmama · 05/07/2025 08:51

TheCoralMoose · 03/07/2025 13:19

My cousin who is 37 met someone 11 months ago.

He is much older but not as old as he said he was at first.

She never intended to marry him just go on dates and she decided not to let him move in her apartment which she owns. He had a house which he owned since learned he gave it to his daughter just after meeting my cousin.

He said he was 45 he is actually 61.

Him and my cousin had a 5 day break booked for las vegas just before she decided she no longer wanted him.
She went ahead with the vegas break because he paid a lot of money for it.

On the day before they were due to fly back she doesnt know if she was spiked or given too much alcohol but he took her very intoxicated to a chapel and they get wed.

On returning home she told him its still over then he shown her the marriage certificate.

She called her mum and dad and they came round told him to get out he said fuck off its my place as much as hers and threatened them.

What can be done?. No its not a joke thread its deadly serious.

He has said because he is older and now his daughter has his house his housing needs will be more than hers because she is younger than him.

Is this something the police will get involved in.

He’s not entitled to her house until they’ve been married a year - in fact if she acts quickly she can get the married annulled.
call police and tell them he’s abusive. Controlling and coercive behaviour is now illegal in U.K.!… ask police to remove him from property and change locks…get marriage cancelled and explain she was intoxicated….
As for his house - you can not just GIFT a hose to your children…. for 7 years after that house is still considered yours as far as care or care homes go…. So if he was to go to council they would consider that house his still .. and besides he can live with his daughters… tell her to call police and get him out… don’t try to do it without police present, tel her to ensure her own safety above all.,,, one woman a week is killed by her partner or ex A WEEK!!
So support her to call police, get him removed… change locks. Apply for an annulment -

Booboobagins · 05/07/2025 09:01

He's not entitled to her property. In UK you are entitled to what you bring into a relationship now, if I understand it properly. The marriage if its real is short and questionable. I think hes made himself homeless!!!

It doesn't matter if they are married or not he can't live in her property if she doesn't want him there.

The Police would be interested in this. If he drugged her to get married that's an offence in USA and UK. I'd be speaking to police in USA too.

Let's hope he's arrested.

Annulment is def the right route.

Let's hope he and his sorry arse are thrown into prison for this.

RainbowMoonbeam · 05/07/2025 10:57

This isn't actually possible. I got married in Vegas in January you can't just rock up at a wedding chapel. You need to go to the marriage bureau first for the license, that involves swearing an oath to an official and presenting your ID after filling in a pretty detailed form.
She either isn't married and had a just-for-fun ceremony, or she absolutely meant to get married and is lying because she didn't think famil would approve.

NeedANapAgain · 05/07/2025 11:36

There’s no way he would have a legal marriage certificate. In Vegas, you apply for a license at the courthouse, take that to wherever you’re getting married, and the officiant files the paperwork with the county after the ceremony. A certified copy isn’t available for at least two weeks after that.

NeedANapAgain · 05/07/2025 11:37

Othersideofworld · 04/07/2025 23:28

Don’t you have to register to be wed in Vegas 30 days before or something? Feels fake to me!

The reason people get married in Vegas is that there’s no waiting period.

battgirlatheart · 05/07/2025 15:06

In vegas you both have to go to the marriage office and get a certificate
then you go to chapel
then you get legally married

you might get a chapel certificate but it’s not legal without the proper certificate from office and has to be registered
they send the certificate the official one to you by post and it will be stamped with Clark county etc

battgirlatheart · 05/07/2025 15:08

NeedANapAgain · 05/07/2025 11:37

The reason people get married in Vegas is that there’s no waiting period.

You used to actually have to wait 24 hours which I believe has only recently changed
you do have to register it before st the marriage office
all these tv shows and films are totally fake
a wedding in a chapel is not legit without

JustMy2Penneth · 05/07/2025 16:07

Would a restraining order be issued based on your description of events? If they say they were likely spiked and there’s no evidence of the wedding other than what could easily be a fake certificate? Would the chapel or venue listed on the certificate have a record of them, photos, video even, that would show a genuine, legal wedding took place?

Zellycat · 05/07/2025 16:21

Read this:
https://www.clarkcountynv.gov/government/electedofficials/countyclerk/how-to-get-married-in-las-vegas

It seems not easy to blank-out for this whole process and no one to realise that you are incapable of consent.
But if she was, she must apply to Clark county to have it voided.

There are also “fake” weddings. Get a copy of the documents & check, or if can, check with Clark county as they publish marriages but not sure how long that takes.

Check documents & with Clark County & chapel as video may indicate she was incapable of consent.

Welcome to Clark County, NV

Download a copy of How to Get Married in Las Vegas

https://www.clarkcountynv.gov/government/elected_officials/county_clerk/how-to-get-married-in-las-vegas

AliceMcK · 05/07/2025 17:01

I was reading a story recently about tourists being drugged and willingly handing over money and bank details without knowing what they are doing. There was a story about a Canadian tourist that was able to travel home under the influence of the drug.

ive just found these that would answer how OPs cousin could have been able to go through a marriage ceremony without her knowledge

https://worldtravelprotection.com/travel-insights/travel-warning-scopolamines-silent-threat-to-tourists/

https://theconversation.com/motion-sickness-drug-linked-to-cases-of-robbery-and-assault-heres-what-you-need-to-know-about-devils-breath-259720

Motion sickness drug linked to cases of robbery and assault – here’s what you need to know about ‘devil’s breath’

Tasteless. Odourless. Potentially fatal. Scopolamine is raising alarms after reports of use in UK crime.

https://theconversation.com/motion-sickness-drug-linked-to-cases-of-robbery-and-assault-heres-what-you-need-to-know-about-devils-breath-259720

Jc2001 · 05/07/2025 17:52

InterIgnis · 03/07/2025 13:53

Yes, if Nevada law is adhered to.

Did they obtain a marriage license, and was it performed by a licensed officiant? If no to one or both of these then no, it will not be a legal marriage.

She needs to speak to a solicitor.

Well, does Navanda law require the bride to be conscious?

NeedANapAgain · 05/07/2025 19:31

battgirlatheart · 05/07/2025 15:08

You used to actually have to wait 24 hours which I believe has only recently changed
you do have to register it before st the marriage office
all these tv shows and films are totally fake
a wedding in a chapel is not legit without

Actually, the “instant marriage” (marrying as soon as you obtain your license) has been available in Nevada since 1931.

Zellycat · 05/07/2025 19:43

This is the Clark County marriage search:

clerk.clarkcountynv.gov/AcclaimWeb/Marriage/FindMyMarriageRecordSearch

battgirlatheart · 06/07/2025 08:53

NeedANapAgain · 05/07/2025 19:31

Actually, the “instant marriage” (marrying as soon as you obtain your license) has been available in Nevada since 1931.

Edited

Well that’s strange as when j got married in 2012 we had to wait a full 24 hours

NeedANapAgain · 06/07/2025 09:48

battgirlatheart · 06/07/2025 08:53

Well that’s strange as when j got married in 2012 we had to wait a full 24 hours

Not meaning to derail, but you got bad information. This is from The New York Times, but other sources say the same.

Cousin Coerced Into Marriage Advice Needed
battgirlatheart · 06/07/2025 10:47

NeedANapAgain · 06/07/2025 09:48

Not meaning to derail, but you got bad information. This is from The New York Times, but other sources say the same.

Well my information came from Clark county marriage office online at the time and the certificate itself and the woman at the office and the marriage chapel and coordinator at the hotel where we got married…

NeedANapAgain · 06/07/2025 11:20

battgirlatheart · 06/07/2025 10:47

Well my information came from Clark county marriage office online at the time and the certificate itself and the woman at the office and the marriage chapel and coordinator at the hotel where we got married…

How very odd for you then.

Cousin Coerced Into Marriage Advice Needed
battgirlatheart · 06/07/2025 11:37

NeedANapAgain · 06/07/2025 11:20

How very odd for you then.

And when I searched that it said the /4 hr wait was abolished in 2006 which is also wrong for my 2012 marriage.
I don’t know why it’s so important for you to prove something.
all I can speak is my truth and my experience in doing this
no matter what you copy and paste sadly for you can’t actually change that

llizzie · 07/07/2025 00:15

TheCoralMoose · 03/07/2025 13:19

My cousin who is 37 met someone 11 months ago.

He is much older but not as old as he said he was at first.

She never intended to marry him just go on dates and she decided not to let him move in her apartment which she owns. He had a house which he owned since learned he gave it to his daughter just after meeting my cousin.

He said he was 45 he is actually 61.

Him and my cousin had a 5 day break booked for las vegas just before she decided she no longer wanted him.
She went ahead with the vegas break because he paid a lot of money for it.

On the day before they were due to fly back she doesnt know if she was spiked or given too much alcohol but he took her very intoxicated to a chapel and they get wed.

On returning home she told him its still over then he shown her the marriage certificate.

She called her mum and dad and they came round told him to get out he said fuck off its my place as much as hers and threatened them.

What can be done?. No its not a joke thread its deadly serious.

He has said because he is older and now his daughter has his house his housing needs will be more than hers because she is younger than him.

Is this something the police will get involved in.

Contact the police. It might help to find out if that Vegas chapel has CCTV, inside or out or both. There may be other buildings around with CCTV.

The police can investigate to see if your cousin showed any signs of intoxication or needing support on her way in with him or on their way out.

If she does, it is a criminal matter.

AJWalker2016 · 07/07/2025 11:02

So you actually both have to go to the courthouse in Clark County to obtain your marriage license in order to have a legal marriage in Las Vegas.
The whole eloping and marrying on a whim is for TV / film only.
I know, because I did it.
It may well be a souvenir from a wedding experience and he's trying to trick her into believing otherwise but yes i would definitely be going straight to police and lawyer to verify.

A pp said it has to be legally registered in the UK but this actually isn't the case for a US marriage.

llizzie · 07/07/2025 15:10

battgirlatheart · 06/07/2025 11:37

And when I searched that it said the /4 hr wait was abolished in 2006 which is also wrong for my 2012 marriage.
I don’t know why it’s so important for you to prove something.
all I can speak is my truth and my experience in doing this
no matter what you copy and paste sadly for you can’t actually change that

Don't worry about it. If you protest against it, the poster has your post withdrawn. Only their post is kept, and it always appears they are correct.

That is what some posters do on mumsnet. They don't care if you or they are correct or not. It is how they crowd in onto a poster and try to turn others against them.

It is a game. A bullying game. Mumsnet allows posters to see all the posts a person has posted on all threads, and they resurrect old threads and continue the bullying.

battgirlatheart · 07/07/2025 15:13

llizzie · 07/07/2025 15:10

Don't worry about it. If you protest against it, the poster has your post withdrawn. Only their post is kept, and it always appears they are correct.

That is what some posters do on mumsnet. They don't care if you or they are correct or not. It is how they crowd in onto a poster and try to turn others against them.

It is a game. A bullying game. Mumsnet allows posters to see all the posts a person has posted on all threads, and they resurrect old threads and continue the bullying.

What’s wrong with these people? Apart from needing a life and possibly a shag lol

llizzie · 07/07/2025 17:10

battgirlatheart · 07/07/2025 15:13

What’s wrong with these people? Apart from needing a life and possibly a shag lol

I have added that username to my list. It is a shame, really that we have to go through all the posts on a thread to see who is posting, because it isn't worth it to be constantly accused of being wrong, even with personal experience.

They will discredit everything you say.

The weird thing is the condemning of Ai, saying it is false, fraud, don't believe it and so on, even though the facts are fed into it from other sites. If they stop believing in Google and other search engines, will they go back to looking up in the local reference library? Will they believe that better than technology?

Wikipedia uses information fed into it by the public from their knowledge and experience. There are posters who think this is fake too.

Will they take out subscriptions to Encyclopedia Britannica? Will they remember how to look things up? How do they know info in books isn't out of date.

These groups of posters who despise anyone who uses Ai will come unstuck eventually. It is the fake news on social media and making up fake photos of celebrities which is wrong. That is not the same as searching for information. Ai pull out info from Government sites.

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