AIBU to think I have no liability here? (diagram attached)

[WiggyClawsThe2nd]

I think I'm fairly sure on this but can't stop panicking so I thought I'd ask on here.
Friday night I had a car accident. It was a real shock and it's only now that I've stopped to think about it that I'm feeling really really cross.
In the diagram I'm the blue line, the other driver is the green line. The thick lines show where we went, the thin lines indicate where you would have expected us to be going. Given that the lady tried to tell me she'd been going straight on when obviously she didn't makes me wonder if she had a mad moment!
Anyway, this particular roundabout leads onto a bridge over a dual carriageway. On the other side of this bridge you can go left onto a local road, or right to join the dual carriageway.
When we joined the roundabout, the other car was to my left. Neither of us indicated before joining the roundabout, however I did indicate left after I passed the 1st left exit as I was planning to go over the bridge and turn right to join the duel carriageway. As I was about to leave the roundabout the lady turned in front of me to head back round the roundabout and I hit her in the side of the car. Slow speed, maybe 15 mph.
It turns out that we have the same insurance company just to complicate matters.
I'm pretty sure that she is liable for this accident, what do you all think?

YABU: you are liable
YANBU: you are not liable

They haven't installed one though, it is literally blank space, if it WAS a proper right hand exit off the island to a right hand dual carriageway, it would have white lines running along the left of it to prohibit the person on the left crossing your path, there is nothing there and nothing on the run up to the either either.

Entrances to islands don't always correspond to exits, you can have multiple lanes leading up to an island to ease the flow of traffic, not because those lanes correspond to multiple exits, OP was coming off a single carriageway to an island then a dual carriageway.

If the entering lanes led to specific exiting lanes they would be marked on the road AND on the island.

Woman was still at fault, but OP and everyone who uses that island in that way are just doing it because it is obviously intended to be used that way, the markings just don't show it though, so prove nothing.

The picture

What picture?

What image are you looking at?

The op hasn't revealed the location of the actual junction. Other people have guessed it

In the section of the highway code on roundabouts.

In reality it wil most likely entirely hinge on the road markings. Tbh I'd be surprised if given the OPs account their wasn't road markings that support the use of that lane straight ahead. Still unlikely to be a no fault accident even if she was in the right lane

This one, diagram shows where OPs car would be (in blue) and the lady's car (in red). But the other picture shows the view from the left lane at that position, there is no white line to say the person on the left has to go straight on.. it's common sense that the right lane also goes straight on, but there is nothing on the island to make it compulsory.

There is no straight on only lane for the left lane, terrible design.

This is the correct roundabout.

This would be easily resolved if you uploaded a pic of the roundabout it happened on op. No one he can know for certain without seeing the road and its lane markings (or lack of). It sounds like she was definitely in the wrong but it's impossible to tell if you were also at fault or not.

currently I'm of the opinion you should have been in the left hand lane unless the right hand lane you were in indicated you could go straight over. The fact there was no third exit is irrelevant.

The link here states:

Going Ahead at a Roundabout (Blue Car)

Manoeuvre: Stay in the leftmost lane UNLESS the road markings tell you otherwise

https://theorytest.org.uk/roundabouts-uk/

I'm not sure the OP has confirmed the right roundabout

2nd picture, we were both about 1.5 metres further towards the exit

This is the right roundabout

Yes that’s the height of it

So, it's all about a picture, and not the text, which says:

186
Signals and position.

When taking the first exit to the left, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• signal left and approach in the left-hand lane
• keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave.

When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• signal right and approach in the right-hand lane
• keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout
• signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want.

That 2nd part is exactly how I was taught to drive. Two lanes and no markings, you have to decide what is appropriate. There is nothing at all that stipulates only the left lane unless signs say otherwise.

Oh shit OP really?

Where did you say the other person was coming from?

50/50 at best

The picture is as legally valid as the wording

As I said, nowhere does the highway code say you can only use the left hand lane, and yet you were so sure of it.

It's in the picture

I feel for you OP, she is 100% in the wrong, but without a straight on ONLY road marking for the left lane, technically she could carry on round, doesn't mean she can cross into your path, but as far as road markings goes she was within her rights to carry on round.

Interestingly though, you can see the dirt line on the edge of that right hand lane which shows that anyone using the island in the right/inside lane, uses it to go straight on.. There is no right hand exit so where would you be going otherwise?

I think you may get stiffed for 50/50 due to bad island design/ambiguity of lanes.

So you said.

Op that's not even a straight- ahead! There's no way you should have been on the right hand lane according to the picture of the roundabout.

Does the approach sign show it as a straightahead? If it does you need to get a copy to your insurance company

They were coming from 6 o'clock as well

It definitely is. It shows at 12 o'clock on the sign

Is this the actual roundabout op? It's hard to keep up with all the quoted, quoted posts sorry.

If so I'd have assumed you were going right as there's no arrow to say you can go straight over in the right hand lane from the junction you entered at, so I suspect you may be held at fault too.

I've changed my mind again. You should both claim against the highways agency (if thats a thing)

yes there are no arrows, no lane marking to say you can go straight ahead but Google maps click through as @sandyhappypeople pic shows there are clearly 2 lanes going into the exit

When you send in your statement send a picture of that sign in too. But tbh you still should have been in the left hand lane

But no way in hell are you going to get non fault for that!!!. If they offer to settle it 50/50 and I was you I'd grab it with both hands. Your respective areas of damage aren't particularly in Your favour either