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Nadiya Hussain responds to critics

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PruthePrune · 29/06/2025 09:24

Nadiya Hussain responds to critics

I can understand her being upset that her shows have been axed, apparently ratings were falling, However, I find it hugely disappointing that she has brought race/religion into it. No one is entitled to a BBC show and I think she has had a bloody good run. AIBU?

Nadiya Hussain says she ‘won’t be grateful’ following BBC cooking show axe

Nadiya Hussain has spoken out following the cancellation of her BBC cooking show, delivering a powerful response to critics who told her to be “grateful”. The Great British Bake Off winner has enjoyed a 10-year relationship with the broadcaster followi...

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/lifestyle/bake-off-nadiya-hussain-cooking-show-axe-b2778744.html

OP posts:
Bonsaibaby · 29/06/2025 19:58

Zov · 29/06/2025 19:53

Plenty of people work very hard, and aren't handed a BBC show on a plate, for cooking a few decent buns and cakes.

What do you mean handed a show on a plate? Do you work for the bbc and have inside information?

Tandora · 29/06/2025 19:59

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 19:13

Molly Mae for example, was talking about how hard she’s had to work for her money and that other people are too lazy to do what she does, and she was absolutely dragged over hot coals for being ungrateful for the opportunities that she has been handed.

A) that’s not remotely the same situation. Her show was axed- she wasn’t complaining about having to work hard and calling others lazy! Two very , very different things.

B) Molly Mae hasn’t acquired fame due to possessing any kind of talent. So, again, not the same.

This would be more akin to a load of people sending - say - Olly Murs messages about how he should be grateful after he received some bad news. I’m guessing that wouldn’t happen.

Zov · 29/06/2025 19:59

Zebedee999 · 29/06/2025 19:54

So according to you any ethic minority, once on TV, must never have their show cancelled ever.... cos racist?

Based on that TV/radio etc would, by now, never show any new talent as all slots will be taken by ethic minorities immediately using the racist card if anyone dares to stop their shows.

People get stale, she's had her run, accept it and quit with the racism card at every turn.

100 million per cent this. ^ Thanks for having the courage to say it. 👏

pestowithwalnuts · 29/06/2025 19:59

EasternStandard · 29/06/2025 09:40

I just googled as had not heard of her, to see who had asked her to feel grateful. In a quote she says she’s allowed to feel angry at being treated unfairly. Was she treated unfairly?

I can't see how she was treated unfairly.
Lots of shows get axed by the BBC. She's had a good enough run. Did she think they'd go on forever .

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:00

Tandora · 29/06/2025 19:59

A) that’s not remotely the same situation. Her show was axed- she wasn’t complaining about having to work hard and calling others lazy! Two very , very different things.

B) Molly Mae hasn’t acquired fame due to possessing any kind of talent. So, again, not the same.

This would be more akin to a load of people sending - say - Olly Murs messages about how he should be grateful after he received some bad news. I’m guessing that wouldn’t happen.

Edited

Of course it is! We expect our “celebrities” to be grateful and mindful of the opportunities they’ve had to enable them to become millionaires.

Zov · 29/06/2025 20:02

pestowithwalnuts · 29/06/2025 19:59

I can't see how she was treated unfairly.
Lots of shows get axed by the BBC. She's had a good enough run. Did she think they'd go on forever .

I know. Batshit isn't it? I don't know why she thought she should be an exception to the rules.

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:05

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:00

Of course it is! We expect our “celebrities” to be grateful and mindful of the opportunities they’ve had to enable them to become millionaires.

You think being fired is the same as still having a job and complaining that you have to work too hard and calling others lazy.

Ok dear .

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:06

wastingmytimeagain · 29/06/2025 19:58

Nope. The poster quoted Nadiya accurately — that Nadiya feels a certain way about being told to be grateful because she was constantly told to be so as an immigrant.

You instantly took that to mean Nadiya — because she is not white — has misinterpreted and doesn't understand British culture.

Again, I gave an analogy earlier:

  • Woman: "It's sexist that I'm constantly told to be professional in the workplace when men aren't" (you can choose to agree or disagree; I personally agree with Nadiya)
  • Man: "It's a gender clash. It's perfectly normal for people at work to tell each other to be professional. You don't understand that because you're a woman." Tell me the man isn't sexist now.

But once more... Why am I wasting my time on the likes of you? Am really out of here.

😂😂😂😂 ok

So Nadiya misinterprets a common attitude held by British people towards celebrities, and the people who a) recognise that it might be because she’s from (in your words) “an immigrant family” are racist as well as the people who think that as she’s British she should be treated the same as other British people.

That’s quite a tightrope you’ve constructed there.

Your analogy man/ woman is a pile of shit because British people of all races, origins and religions are expected to be grateful for their opportunities. We all have the same expectations.

“The likes of” me indeed. Talk about racist micro aggressions.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:07

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:05

You think being fired is the same as still having a job and complaining that you have to work too hard and calling others lazy.

Ok dear .

She wasn’t fired.

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:07

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 18:59

I’m racist because I think telling someone to be grateful for having an easy ride to millions is perfectly acceptable in British culture?

Does this tactic usually work on people? Do you usually get them to silence themselves because of your false claims of racism?

No, because you went straight to suggesting she didn’t understand “British culture” just because she’s not white , even though she’s British.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:07

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:07

No, because you went straight to suggesting she didn’t understand “British culture” just because she’s not white , even though she’s British.

I didn’t. The poster I replied to did.

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:08

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:07

She wasn’t fired.

Yes she was , her show was cancelled.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:09

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:08

Yes she was , her show was cancelled.

That’s not being fired. There was no termination of a contract. It was just not renewed.

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:10

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:07

I didn’t. The poster I replied to did.

No she didn’t. She made a completely different point which went completely over your head , to which you replied:

“So the issue is a culture clash rather than racism?
It’s perfectly acceptable in British culture to tell someone, who’s had a cushy ride come to an end, to be just grateful that they had the opportunity.”

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:11

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:10

No she didn’t. She made a completely different point which went completely over your head , to which you replied:

“So the issue is a culture clash rather than racism?
It’s perfectly acceptable in British culture to tell someone, who’s had a cushy ride come to an end, to be just grateful that they had the opportunity.”

The previous poster said it “lands differently” than it would for “white British people”…. Which is a culture clash

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:11

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:09

That’s not being fired. There was no termination of a contract. It was just not renewed.

Ok she lost her job.

So - You think losing your job is exactly the same as not losing your job and complaining that you have to work too hard and calling others lazy.

👍🏻

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:12

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:11

Ok she lost her job.

So - You think losing your job is exactly the same as not losing your job and complaining that you have to work too hard and calling others lazy.

👍🏻

Listen, we can all stretch the meanings of words to deny the truth of what someone has said 😄

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:12

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:11

The previous poster said it “lands differently” than it would for “white British people”…. Which is a culture clash

No that’s not what that means at all. It’s got absolutely nothing to do with “culture” it’s about how coming from a minority ethnic background might affect someone’s experiences- something you’ve clearly spend zero time reflecting on. I wonder why.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:14

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:12

No that’s not what that means at all. It’s got absolutely nothing to do with “culture” it’s about how coming from a minority ethnic background might affect someone’s experiences- something you’ve clearly spend zero time reflecting on. I wonder why.

Edited

So you can say the exact same thing in the exact same context to a white person but not to someone from an “immigrant family” because it “lands differently” but you also can’t recognise that someone from an “immigrant family” might not be fully aware of the cultural context that the thing said has?

Interesting .

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:17

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:14

So you can say the exact same thing in the exact same context to a white person but not to someone from an “immigrant family” because it “lands differently” but you also can’t recognise that someone from an “immigrant family” might not be fully aware of the cultural context that the thing said has?

Interesting .

Edited

someone from an “immigrant family” might not be fully aware of the cultural context that the thing said has?

Sorry, can you please explain to me why you think a British person, who was born and raised in Britain, might not be aware of the “cultural context” in Britain?

Wilfulignoranceabounds · 29/06/2025 20:17

Zebedee999 · 29/06/2025 19:54

So according to you any ethic minority, once on TV, must never have their show cancelled ever.... cos racist?

Based on that TV/radio etc would, by now, never show any new talent as all slots will be taken by ethic minorities immediately using the racist card if anyone dares to stop their shows.

People get stale, she's had her run, accept it and quit with the racism card at every turn.

Critical thinking skills are thin on the ground around her, huh!? That’s is not a correct summation of what Zebedee said. Also, not that you appear at all interested, but having her show cancelled is not what Nadiya’s gripe is… create your own narrative and whinge away, though…

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:18

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:17

someone from an “immigrant family” might not be fully aware of the cultural context that the thing said has?

Sorry, can you please explain to me why you think a British person, who was born and raised in Britain, might not be aware of the “cultural context” in Britain?

The same reason that exact phrase “lands differently”, I assume

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:20

@Tandora and @Wilfulignoranceabounds

Is it your assertion that British people should never tell a non-white British person to be grateful for their opportunities which have enabled them to become millionaires? Would that be your preferred solution?

But we are still allowed to say it to white- British millionaires?

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:25

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:18

The same reason that exact phrase “lands differently”, I assume

The phrase “lands differently” was referring to the fact that she is from a minority background. being from a minority background affects a person’s life experiences and how they are treated by others.

Being from a minority background does not affect a person’s ability to understand the culture into which they were born and have lived their whole life.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 20:33

Tandora · 29/06/2025 20:25

The phrase “lands differently” was referring to the fact that she is from a minority background. being from a minority background affects a person’s life experiences and how they are treated by others.

Being from a minority background does not affect a person’s ability to understand the culture into which they were born and have lived their whole life.

Edited

So we shouldn’t speak to people from “ethnic minorities” in the same way as we would other British people? We shouldn’t tell celebrities from “ethnic minorities” that they should be grateful for their millions even though they completely understand these are basic British values and not racially charged?

Is that right?

What other basic British values should we carefully never mention to “ethnic minorities” even though they’re British and fully aware that they’re not racially charged?