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To not provide DSS with a room

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Moorside111 · 28/06/2025 22:30

Currently living in rented accommodation with partner, our baby, my daughter from ex marriage and his son from his ex marriage. Both step children are 50/50 with their other parents. We currently live in a large house with lots of space and a bedroom for everyone. But the cost of this rent and associated bills is astronomical and we need to either buy our own 4 bed house or rent somewhere cheaper.

My partner earns double what I earn and works long hours. I have a less demanding job and so do most of the housework and childcare for our baby. This might sound ok- apart from the fact that we pay half each of the rent and bills for our current home. So I really feel like he’s onto a pretty good deal. I used to do childcare and school runs for DSS too and recently stopped….but that is another story.

I own a three bed semi, bought with the proceeds of my divorce, which I lived in with my daughter before I met my partner. It’s a lovely house which I renovated and is in a nice desirable area. It’s been rented out but the tenants have given notice to leave in August.

My partner sold his marital home, gave his ex wife 2/3 of the equity and has since burnt through the rest of the money. He has nothing for a deposit for a new home and so we need to sell mine, which would give us a decent deposit for a new 4 bed house.

Ive decided that I don’t want to move to another cheaper rented property, they’re rarely decorated nicely, don’t feel like home to me and I’d probably have to live in a less nice area to get the size we’d want for a cheaper price. So I’ve decided to move back into my 3 bed semi, spruce it up a little bit and eventually sell it- I’m estimating this might take 12 months or so. My daughter loves this house, it’s near school, friends and her dad. She’s looking forward to going back to her old room. When I initially told my partner that I thought this was the best idea, I discussed it with a view to us all moving there together- it would be cramped and not ideal- but it’s a home and only a stepping stone to us buying somewhere bigger. I suggested we put our 1yo baby in with us and decorate the 3rd bedroom for his son. He didn’t like this idea, said I wouldn’t put my daughter in the small room so why should he put his son. He said he’d rent a house so that his son could have more room and when his son was at his mums he would stay with me and our baby.
He suggested that his son and our baby could have the second double room and my daughter have the small room. This might be where I’m being selfish as I won’t compromise on my daughter- the room was hers to begin with, I don’t want her impacted by my choice to blend a family. She was happy to move in with partner and son btw and they all get on well so there’s no issues there. But I also selfishly don’t see why I should impact my daughter for someone else’s child.

We left it like this until this week where he’s realised the move is imminent and he’s now decided he wants to move to the three bed house with me. He said he doesn’t want to live apart from me and our baby- and I don’t want to live apart either. However, I’ve now planned to have a bedroom for each of my children. I going back to work this week, our 1yo is starting nursery, he’s a light sleeper and for the sake of both of us I think he needs his own room for a good nights sleep instead of us waking each other up in a shared room.

my partner has now decided he’ll convert the integral garage for his son so that he’ll have plenty of space. I initially said this would be ok but I’m now feeling uneasy about this too. He’s planning on doing this renovation himself. I didn’t think much damage could be done until he said he was planning on taking the garage door out and getting our friend to fit in some french doors so it would look more like a room. I have two issues with this:

1- friend has done work for me before and it’s shoddy. I worry what the finish of this DIY project will be.

2- the garage door was only put in a couple of years ago, it was expensive, it’s remote electric and matches the front door. The garage was newly rendered and it all looks smart from the road.

AIBU to say no to this project? It feels selfish and I’m basically saying I won’t allow a room to be made for DSS. Creating the room allows us to stay together and still have DSS over to stay. Surely lots of people would do anything to keep the whole family together.

i feel selfish, but also a bit angry that everything has fallen to me- childcare, bills, providing a home. Now I’m potentially damaging my home, my only asset, so that I can house his son.

I realise the phrase ‘his son’ sounds horrid from a step mum and it’s not a reflection of how I am at home. I care for him, treat him the same as my daughter and son. But in reality he has a mother and father- and it feels like his father’s job to ensure he has a house big enough for his family.

OP posts:
Muffinmam · 29/06/2025 06:45

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 00:09

The 50% bills thing is an issue, but I have some spousal support from exH and I’ve been getting a rental income from my property, so although I earn a lot less, we have a similar income coming in.

However, due to my shorter working hours I do all of the care of our baby son, and 90% of the housework and cooking. Until I put my foot down recently I was also running around like a blue arsed fly doing two separate school runs a day so that I could collect his son, then making tea and providing childcare until he got back from work. So he really does get a good deal for 50% of the bills.

You should never have been doing the school runs for a child that’s not yours. You have a young baby and a daughter you already care for. I feel your boyfriend was/is taking advantage of you and he’s trying to take advantage of you again.

It’s utter madness he’s trying to make permanent changes to your asset!

Muffinmam · 29/06/2025 06:47

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 00:22

I had a large deposit so it’s small mortgage £600 that I can easily pay myself. The rental income paid this and gave me an extra £1000, but the rental on our larger property is so high that my half swallows any rental profit up. I won’t be any worse off moving back

He really took advantage of you.

Please do not let him damage your home.

Kimchiii · 29/06/2025 06:48

Stripeyanddotty · 28/06/2025 23:19

I feel sorry for the children. All 3 of them.

This. What a mess.

OutdoorQueen · 29/06/2025 06:49

I can’t get over the number of people who think you & DH should move out of your room for him or turn your lounge in to some temporary bedroom!
It is yours & your other children’s family home! You both go to work & pay the bills, you get your own room!

The perfect solution for if he needs to study is to use the room you have as a study! Don’t put his gaming stuff in there either if studying is so important to him that he expects you to give up your own bedroom!

It isn’t ideal sharing a room with such an age gap but tough! It isn’t forever, you have done your best to make it work for him & he is behaving like an entitled brat!

Those saying but he’s going in to his GCSE years, so?? He gets his own study & surely won’t need to be up half the night screaming on an Xbox if studying is so important to him!

Tiredofallthis101 · 29/06/2025 06:50

If you want him to live with you I'd go back to his son having the small room and baby back in with you two. A one year old would rather be in with you anyway. But I agree with others, before you agree for him to move in you need to set conditions - how much rent does he pay? How will you adjust the bill split in future so that you aren't paying 50% off a much lower wage and unable to earn more because your childcare responsibilities that he could and should be helping with prevent you from doing so.

Cailin66 · 29/06/2025 06:51

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 00:22

I had a large deposit so it’s small mortgage £600 that I can easily pay myself. The rental income paid this and gave me an extra £1000, but the rental on our larger property is so high that my half swallows any rental profit up. I won’t be any worse off moving back

How much is the rent. How much are his car payment and what was the cars purchase price. What did he blow his 1/3 of old house proceeds on?

It’s rather odd you said he ‘gave’ his ex 2/3 of their old house. Did she not part own it anyway?

7yo7yo · 29/06/2025 06:53

You are a mug. Dump this waste of space and focus on you and your kids. Move into the 3 bed semi and let him do his own thing. He is a waste of space who is using you.

rwalker · 29/06/2025 06:55

Muffinmam · 29/06/2025 06:45

You should never have been doing the school runs for a child that’s not yours. You have a young baby and a daughter you already care for. I feel your boyfriend was/is taking advantage of you and he’s trying to take advantage of you again.

It’s utter madness he’s trying to make permanent changes to your asset!

OP doesn’t do school runs for DSS
added later she used too but doesn’t now

Turkeylurkie · 29/06/2025 06:56

Move back to your house with your children...your children..not his .
And carry on with your life
Do not marry this man or have him move in
It will not work
Your instincts are already telling you this

Billybagpuss · 29/06/2025 06:58

Please also take advise on his contributions, if he pays towards the mortgage and any home improvements it can give him a claim over your home. Also don’t marry him.

ThejoyofNC · 29/06/2025 06:58

I really don't understand why he has no money saved if he earns so much?

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/06/2025 07:02

Your stepson’s bedroom is not the issue. Your husband is. He’s dead weight. Get rid of him and the bedroom situation disappears.

SereneHare · 29/06/2025 07:02

Moorside111 · 28/06/2025 23:55

The opposite- he’s doing everything he can to make sure his son has his own space and a nice room to come home to. He pays maintenance and chooses to have his son half the week because he loves him and wants to see him.
if I don’t allow the garage conversion then I suspect he won’t live with me. And I don’t blame him for that- I wouldn’t live somewhere there wasn’t a room for my child.
my frustration is that he hasn’t managed to get shit together so that we can jointly buy a home for us all. And now he’s asking to make changes to my smaller house to get around this

No, he's not doing everything he can OP.

He pissed his money up the wall and now he can't provide what his son needs. It might not be the only time he does this with money either, especially if he has a partner who can help fix the mess. He had his eye on your garage as a solution and you'll be the wicked step mother for being the reason his son doesn't have a room.

Why do you trust that he'll buy a house with you down the line? There's nothing to suggest this will ever happen. You've seen what he did with the money that could have been a deposit.

Once your garage has been converted there's no need to move anywhere. DP can live for cheap in your house while 'saving' for a deposit he'll likely sporadically piss up the wall. He doesn't need to save for or buy a house while he has yours to camp out in.

If I were you, I'd move back to the house with my children and let him sort out a place for him and his son. There's no reason you can't still get together and do things. It's only the sleeping arrangements that would be separate. He has enough resources to provide this, he's just used to an easy ride financially.

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 07:04

Move back onto your house with your kids and leave DP to it.

None of this has been in your original ,daughter's interests at all - now you have another kid in the mix. The selfishness of some parents never ceases to astound me. You've protiritised a new relationship over your child.

Strawberries86 · 29/06/2025 07:05

OP I want to shake you. You are so delusional about the worth of this man. He is not a good man, he is not a good father. He wants the best for his son but he wants YOU to provide it for him. That doesn’t make him a good man!!

He is using you in every way. Wake up and small the coffee please for your children’s sake.

Survivingnotthriving24 · 29/06/2025 07:06

She's stated she doesn't want to live apart, they have a baby together, he has good qualities etc. It's not the choice I'd make, but I'm giving advice based on what the OP wants to do and the fact they've already blended their family and therefore his son shouldn't be treated any differently to her daughter. I did also say to do it properly and with planning permission if she did.
It makes zero financial sense to have spent tens of thousands of pounds on rent when she already has a home in a good area close to a good school her daughter already attends which with minor building work could suit the family she's chosen to build. There needs to be a proper discussion on finances and how they'll work as a family going forward, it all sounds a bit half in half out at the moment. This should have all been sorted before they discussed having a baby together.

ETA: Apologies the post I was quoting to respond to disappeared, it was in response to @Caligirl80

Turkeylurkie · 29/06/2025 07:08

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 00:09

The 50% bills thing is an issue, but I have some spousal support from exH and I’ve been getting a rental income from my property, so although I earn a lot less, we have a similar income coming in.

However, due to my shorter working hours I do all of the care of our baby son, and 90% of the housework and cooking. Until I put my foot down recently I was also running around like a blue arsed fly doing two separate school runs a day so that I could collect his son, then making tea and providing childcare until he got back from work. So he really does get a good deal for 50% of the bills.

Your have been an absolute mug
You have yourself a grade A cocklodger there .
He's only wanting to move in to your home because he can't afford his own without your contribution.
When you say no to the garage conversion,he will accept it and eventually agree to wherever you say his son will sleep, because his son doesn't come first ..his free ride comes first ..you ,and all the support you give him ,childcare ,cleaning money ..his feet are under your table and he's not going to give that up with out a fight .
He's bringing nothing but stress to the table ,your having to do the thinking and planning for everyone..that will not change
He has shown you who he is
Financially he will not change
Do not let him or his son move in
You will massively regret selling your home and buying one with him
Don't do it to yourself or your children

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 07:08

Starseeking · 29/06/2025 06:17

He wants to move in because he wants to live somewhere for free!

Yep. Man who is bad with money moves into house owned by his partner, who also does 90% of household chores.

He's a cocklodger extraordinaire.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 29/06/2025 07:11

I would live separately until he's saved a deposit on somewhere bigger. Hes trying to have his cake and eat it. What's he blowing his money on
?

Mercurysinretrograde · 29/06/2025 07:12

OP this is the time to stick firmly to your original plan and move back to your house without him. Let him prove that he can sort out his finances and then you can talk about getting a house together. If he pays for the shoddy conversion he will possibly devalue your property and also claim that he has the right to some of the proceeds on sale. He hadn’t bothered to look for a rental because he knew if he springs this on you last minute he is more likely to get his way as you will panic and feel sorry for him. Give him a hard no.

nomoretreats · 29/06/2025 07:14

AboogaBooga · 28/06/2025 23:06

I would maybe come down off your high horse a bit. You got your house from your divorce settlement and he lost out in his settlement like most men do.

Why did you have a baby with someone you obviously don’t even like? of course his son is going to need a room. He shouldn’t have turned his nose up at the first offer of the small bedroom but now what is your suggestion? No room at all? Where should he sleep half the time? Or should your “partner” dump his son in favor of you and your new family.

id just break up at this point. Enjoy 50/50 with your new baby too. What a mess.

This. Imagine the shoe was on the other foot and he offered your dd no room. There would be uproar. The actual hypocrisy on this thread is disgusting.

HopscotchBanana · 29/06/2025 07:15

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 00:09

The 50% bills thing is an issue, but I have some spousal support from exH and I’ve been getting a rental income from my property, so although I earn a lot less, we have a similar income coming in.

However, due to my shorter working hours I do all of the care of our baby son, and 90% of the housework and cooking. Until I put my foot down recently I was also running around like a blue arsed fly doing two separate school runs a day so that I could collect his son, then making tea and providing childcare until he got back from work. So he really does get a good deal for 50% of the bills.

Do you like being a martyr? He's literally using you, and you're acting like it's ok because you have martyr syndrome.

PineConeOrDogPoo · 29/06/2025 07:17

Sorry, I did not read past "burnt through the rest of the money". You sound fundamentally different in values and I think you need to protect yourself.

PulchritudinousLycanthrope · 29/06/2025 07:20

I think you should separate everything, let him rent for him and his and when he is on an equal footing to you, then combine, even it it takes five years.

Consider planning permission and building control involvement in what you plan for the garage if you do go ahead too. It will cost you a mint and you might have the place devalued if you're not careful <bitter experience>.

PineConeOrDogPoo · 29/06/2025 07:21

OP, Listen to some podcasts on Codependency and Overfunctioning. Terri Cole on Spotify.

You are enabling his lack of responsibility and you can change this whole dynamic if you want to but he might not like it. It is his responsibility to provide adequate housing for his son. By "burning through his money" and latching on to you ha has done the opposite.

Set boundaries. Potentially I would move back to yout house for now and make it clear you wont tolerate his lack of responsibility and see if he steps up.

Get ready fornit hurting but people dont move from their comfy position without pain.

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