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To not provide DSS with a room

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Moorside111 · 28/06/2025 22:30

Currently living in rented accommodation with partner, our baby, my daughter from ex marriage and his son from his ex marriage. Both step children are 50/50 with their other parents. We currently live in a large house with lots of space and a bedroom for everyone. But the cost of this rent and associated bills is astronomical and we need to either buy our own 4 bed house or rent somewhere cheaper.

My partner earns double what I earn and works long hours. I have a less demanding job and so do most of the housework and childcare for our baby. This might sound ok- apart from the fact that we pay half each of the rent and bills for our current home. So I really feel like he’s onto a pretty good deal. I used to do childcare and school runs for DSS too and recently stopped….but that is another story.

I own a three bed semi, bought with the proceeds of my divorce, which I lived in with my daughter before I met my partner. It’s a lovely house which I renovated and is in a nice desirable area. It’s been rented out but the tenants have given notice to leave in August.

My partner sold his marital home, gave his ex wife 2/3 of the equity and has since burnt through the rest of the money. He has nothing for a deposit for a new home and so we need to sell mine, which would give us a decent deposit for a new 4 bed house.

Ive decided that I don’t want to move to another cheaper rented property, they’re rarely decorated nicely, don’t feel like home to me and I’d probably have to live in a less nice area to get the size we’d want for a cheaper price. So I’ve decided to move back into my 3 bed semi, spruce it up a little bit and eventually sell it- I’m estimating this might take 12 months or so. My daughter loves this house, it’s near school, friends and her dad. She’s looking forward to going back to her old room. When I initially told my partner that I thought this was the best idea, I discussed it with a view to us all moving there together- it would be cramped and not ideal- but it’s a home and only a stepping stone to us buying somewhere bigger. I suggested we put our 1yo baby in with us and decorate the 3rd bedroom for his son. He didn’t like this idea, said I wouldn’t put my daughter in the small room so why should he put his son. He said he’d rent a house so that his son could have more room and when his son was at his mums he would stay with me and our baby.
He suggested that his son and our baby could have the second double room and my daughter have the small room. This might be where I’m being selfish as I won’t compromise on my daughter- the room was hers to begin with, I don’t want her impacted by my choice to blend a family. She was happy to move in with partner and son btw and they all get on well so there’s no issues there. But I also selfishly don’t see why I should impact my daughter for someone else’s child.

We left it like this until this week where he’s realised the move is imminent and he’s now decided he wants to move to the three bed house with me. He said he doesn’t want to live apart from me and our baby- and I don’t want to live apart either. However, I’ve now planned to have a bedroom for each of my children. I going back to work this week, our 1yo is starting nursery, he’s a light sleeper and for the sake of both of us I think he needs his own room for a good nights sleep instead of us waking each other up in a shared room.

my partner has now decided he’ll convert the integral garage for his son so that he’ll have plenty of space. I initially said this would be ok but I’m now feeling uneasy about this too. He’s planning on doing this renovation himself. I didn’t think much damage could be done until he said he was planning on taking the garage door out and getting our friend to fit in some french doors so it would look more like a room. I have two issues with this:

1- friend has done work for me before and it’s shoddy. I worry what the finish of this DIY project will be.

2- the garage door was only put in a couple of years ago, it was expensive, it’s remote electric and matches the front door. The garage was newly rendered and it all looks smart from the road.

AIBU to say no to this project? It feels selfish and I’m basically saying I won’t allow a room to be made for DSS. Creating the room allows us to stay together and still have DSS over to stay. Surely lots of people would do anything to keep the whole family together.

i feel selfish, but also a bit angry that everything has fallen to me- childcare, bills, providing a home. Now I’m potentially damaging my home, my only asset, so that I can house his son.

I realise the phrase ‘his son’ sounds horrid from a step mum and it’s not a reflection of how I am at home. I care for him, treat him the same as my daughter and son. But in reality he has a mother and father- and it feels like his father’s job to ensure he has a house big enough for his family.

OP posts:
Flyswats · 29/06/2025 07:23

The biggest problem is your calling your DSS "someone else's child" and prioritizing your DD over them.

This lays the foundation for your relationship with DP to completely implode.

This is what needs fixing.

thepariscrimefiles · 29/06/2025 07:24

Moorside111 · 28/06/2025 23:55

The opposite- he’s doing everything he can to make sure his son has his own space and a nice room to come home to. He pays maintenance and chooses to have his son half the week because he loves him and wants to see him.
if I don’t allow the garage conversion then I suspect he won’t live with me. And I don’t blame him for that- I wouldn’t live somewhere there wasn’t a room for my child.
my frustration is that he hasn’t managed to get shit together so that we can jointly buy a home for us all. And now he’s asking to make changes to my smaller house to get around this

Doing everything he can to make sure his son has his own space and a nice bedroom to come home to should have meant that he wouldn't have just 'burned through' his share of the equity from his marital home with nothing to show for it. He should have been careful with this money so he could use it to buy or rent a more suitable property to accommodate all your children properly.

It is unreasonable of him to expect you to allow him to get his mate to do some shoddy and amateur building work on your home.

user1476613140 · 29/06/2025 07:24

You've reminded me why I will never blend families should anything happen to DH....

Why not just live separately and see each other at weekends??

ilovelamp82 · 29/06/2025 07:25

Moorside111 · 28/06/2025 23:03

This is how I feel

100% this. If he tries to blame you for the situation he's in or not giving his son the room he wants, he will be showing you how he views your relationship. Whether he is using you for all the benefits you give him or whether he views you as a partner. I think you are right to move back to your property and give your children the rooms. Don't end up trapped in a situation that is difficult to get out. Step back and think about what is being done in each situation to benefit you and your children. If it is for the benefit of him and his child, then you need to reconsider until you find a proper solution. If he doesn't take that well, he's not right for you and proving you right that he should not move in.

Don't be guilted into anything. He has had ample opportunity to sort something out. It is not your responsibility. You are right to protect yourself and your space.

JustASmallBear · 29/06/2025 07:28

My partner sold his marital home, gave his ex wife 2/3 of the equity and has since burnt through the rest of the money.

Whoa whoa whoa!

Doing anything together with this man going forward would be madness for this reason alone.

Add to it the rest and you really need to stick with you and your kids in your home, and he can sort himself and his son out. Then when/if you can come to a better arrangement than your current one, and he's proved homself less reckless, then you consider moving back in together.

AppleOfMyThirdEye · 29/06/2025 07:29

You’ve got bigger issues here. You need to deal with the financial problems your partner comes with.

OrangeAndPistachio · 29/06/2025 07:31

@nomoretreats she did offer a room for the step son. Her partner said it was too small and opted to rent his own place. He then changed his mind 6 weeks before the big move.

noodlebugz · 29/06/2025 07:34

I’m sorry but reading the origional post the word cocklodger comes to mind. He needs to be a bit more financially responsible especially as the bigger earner. Minimum is to pay to convert the garage properly, but you need to protect your home.

edited cocklodger is word not a phrase!

ParmaVioletTea · 29/06/2025 07:37

Please please protect your interests and those of your two DCs. This man sounds financially irresponsible and emotionally unstable.

Do not share your hard-earned capital with him. Please don’t. He sounds manipulative and angry.

thepariscrimefiles · 29/06/2025 07:40

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 00:09

The 50% bills thing is an issue, but I have some spousal support from exH and I’ve been getting a rental income from my property, so although I earn a lot less, we have a similar income coming in.

However, due to my shorter working hours I do all of the care of our baby son, and 90% of the housework and cooking. Until I put my foot down recently I was also running around like a blue arsed fly doing two separate school runs a day so that I could collect his son, then making tea and providing childcare until he got back from work. So he really does get a good deal for 50% of the bills.

You say you get spousal support from your exH. Do you also get child maintenance or is this really child maintenance? If so, this should be excluded from your calculations to work out the split of bills etc. in the same way that it is excluded from calculations for Universal Credit as the money is intended to be used exclusively for the child.

Your partner had a ridiculously good deal with cheap accommodation for himself and his son, free childcare for both his children (I can't belive that you did two separate school runs to pick up his son) with you doing 90% of the housework and cooking. Imagine if he was single and paying out for all of this for himself and his son. You have saved him thousands of £s so he should have been able to save money from his high salary, including his share of the equity from his marital home.

Him doing the best for his son is going to probably ruin your house and make it unsellable if he lets his incompetent mate loose on your garage.

Moonnstars · 29/06/2025 07:43

I think there are two sides to every story and it is the DSC I feel a bit sorry for here.

You have said there is no way you would compromise on your DD not having a room, so surely you can see how he feels about his own son not having a room where ever you live.

It is not clear whether you owned the house with out your ex or whether it was part of your divorce proceedings but if so that is where you gained and he lost to his ex in her getting the majority of the money.

You say he has more outgoings - these include money to his ex, something you are also in receipt of from your ex.

The things that are worrying are
What did happen to his money? You aren't very clear whether before meeting you he had to rent alone and the high costs of this meant it ate into his savings or if for example the ex got the family car and he had to buy a new one. If he did simply spend recklessly then that is different.

The split of the bills. Is he actually a higher earner or not. Considering all your posts it sounds like you both bring in the same amount to the household. I think you need a financial review and see things overall as to where money goes and don't just focus on his job earns more. If you have the same money coming in from whatever source then actually you are equal. In reality if he has more outgoings as gives money to his ex, then he would have less spending money than you so actually he is at a disadvantage.

Why is he giving money to the ex if the custody is 50:50? Normally if split equally no one pays?

Division of labour. I don't understand why you allowed him to get away with doing nothing. Fair enough you do the dinners if home earlier to sort this, but are there jobs he can do at weekends?

Check out the prices in you area of 3 bed compared to 4 bed. Quite a few people where I live converted their garages but this is in line with other properties in the street where some didn't have a garage in the first place. I wouldn't say it loses value if done properly and this could then be the solution to needing a bigger house. Why are you insistent you must move? If the current house you own is in a good location this could be a good solution.

YellowRoom · 29/06/2025 07:43

You're paying half and doing virtually all the house and baby care. Why? How did this conversation go - darling, give me 50% of the bills, oh and here are my pants to wash, oh and DSS needs to be collected from school and his tea made for him. I'll just nip off to spend all my money on myself whilst you tie yourself in knots planning how you're going to support us into the future.

TranceNation · 29/06/2025 07:44

All the comments saying ditch him are just ridiculous but you do need to do things properly to protect your asset ie the house. Do some reading into it. If he contributes to the mortgage, home improvements etc then he will be liable to a share of the house in the future so just be aware of that. You do need a home though for your blended family but I agree it's really not ideal to plonk an older child in with the baby. Maybe the garage idea is a good idea but get a proper builder and be aware of any financial input he makes into the improvement and maintenance of your house.

Orangeandpurpletulips · 29/06/2025 07:46

OrangeAndPistachio · 29/06/2025 07:31

@nomoretreats she did offer a room for the step son. Her partner said it was too small and opted to rent his own place. He then changed his mind 6 weeks before the big move.

Yep! OP is not only doing more than her 50% at present, but she was also willing to keep the 1 year old in with them and provide DSS with his own bedroom. This is no small thing.

OP don't let him trash your house.

sesquipedalian · 29/06/2025 07:47

“he said he was planning on taking the garage door out and getting our friend to fit in some french doors so it would look more like a room.”

OP, he will almost certainly not be allowed to do this - if you look at garage conversions, they have bricks and a window to allow for foundations at the front. There is also a matter of insulation, and the fact that if the garage has a single brick wall you will need to construct a cavity wall to make it into a habitable space. There will also be the question of electrics and heating - it’s not just slapping up a window and calling it quits!! There’s a guide here - it says if it’s an integral garage you might not need planning permission but it does advise that “A lawful development certificate is highly recommended.” https://www.fmb.org.uk/find-a-builder/ultimate-guides-to-home-renovation/garage-conversions-the-ultimate-guide.html#planning

Garage conversions: The ultimate guide

Converting your garage into a habitable room or rooms may be one of the simplest ways to extend your home and increase the value of your property without increasing its footprint.

https://www.fmb.org.uk/find-a-builder/ultimate-guides-to-home-renovation/garage-conversions-the-ultimate-guide.html#planning

Theeyeballsinthesky · 29/06/2025 07:47

Christ hormones have a lot to answer for!!

I can’t see how this man is remotely a great partner. He’s a lazy fucker who let’s you do all the domestic stuff plus pay 50% of the bills even though you earn half what he does. Oh and he’s so financially irresponsible he burnt through the proceeds of his own divorce. His first wife is well shot of him from the sounds of it.

can only assume his cock is made of gold

goody2shooz · 29/06/2025 07:53

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 00:09

The 50% bills thing is an issue, but I have some spousal support from exH and I’ve been getting a rental income from my property, so although I earn a lot less, we have a similar income coming in.

However, due to my shorter working hours I do all of the care of our baby son, and 90% of the housework and cooking. Until I put my foot down recently I was also running around like a blue arsed fly doing two separate school runs a day so that I could collect his son, then making tea and providing childcare until he got back from work. So he really does get a good deal for 50% of the bills.

You say he’s ’a good man’ but he’s crap with money, and you’re paying 50% of bills when he earns double what you do. You’re running round as above. He now wants to move in and butcher your house. Frankly you’d be nuts to buy a house with someone who can’t manage their money and lets you carry so much of the load. This has a whiff of cocklodger about it to me.

Kimchiii · 29/06/2025 07:55

@Cassieskinsismad He's a "great partner" except you're financially incompatible... that's a huge incompatibility OP. You've been saving for your future, he's been spending, knowing you'll step in to take up the slack. It's so disrespectful. You'll have a bigger mortgage now than you needed to, if you buy a joint house with him. Since you're paying half, that's more interest payments for you OP. Why buy a house with someone who's just shown you such disrespect?
The bullshit about you doing all childcare and housework because you earn less is also disrespectful. As if by earning less you're somehow working less hard than him. It's also taking the piss for him to have this attitude whilst you're still paying half the bills! It doesn't matter how much you earn when you're paying half anyway! I'll bet you're paying more than half too, because you're probably paying for everything that your children need as well. He's done some fancy footwork (mind games) getting you to believe it's fair and accept it, OP.

I mostly agree with this, he’s disrespectful and taking the piss but on the point of her saying she is doing more childcare and housework I think it’s not because she earns less. It’s more because she has a less demanding job and works less hours.

It’s totally wrong though in this situation she still has to contribute 50% to finances. Another case of a man having cake and eating it.
I honestly can’t get with this modern brand of misogyny that so many women tolerate and don’t even seem to realise they’re being exploited. Men who are selectively traditional in their expectation of who does housework and childcare but they still insist financial contributions must be “equal”. Crazy.

Superhansrantowindsor · 29/06/2025 07:57

God what an absolute mess.
Do not sell your house to buy a bigger one unless it is all in your name. Stop doing all the work. Don’t let him touch the garage with his amateur builder mate. I won’t say anything else as I’ll be mean.

BreatheAndFocus · 29/06/2025 07:57

Move back to your old house with your DC and let him rent somewhere separate for himself and his son. This is the consequence of him being an idiot and burning through his money rather than making sensible provision. Don’t let him try to make it your fault.

I’d be very suspicious that the only reason he’s changed his mind and now wants to move back to your old house too is simply because it’s cheaper for him and very little to do with wanting to be with you and the baby. He’s already shown himself to be financially immature and reckless.

Kimchiii · 29/06/2025 07:58

TranceNation · 29/06/2025 07:44

All the comments saying ditch him are just ridiculous but you do need to do things properly to protect your asset ie the house. Do some reading into it. If he contributes to the mortgage, home improvements etc then he will be liable to a share of the house in the future so just be aware of that. You do need a home though for your blended family but I agree it's really not ideal to plonk an older child in with the baby. Maybe the garage idea is a good idea but get a proper builder and be aware of any financial input he makes into the improvement and maintenance of your house.

I am curious, why do you think it’s ridiculous to say ditch him?

VickyEadieofThigh · 29/06/2025 07:58

OrangeAndPistachio · 28/06/2025 22:51

I really can't see how this relationship benefits you at all op.

Indeed. I think your words reveal that you know you've saddled yourself with an arsehole, OP.

Sadmummy3 · 29/06/2025 08:03

Where is your DSS supposed to sleep? I don't think you like him very much as you won't allow your children to be put out at all but object to your DSS even having a space of his own
I'm also not sure you and your partner are really happy. Neither of you seemed to care about living apart for half the week.
You can obviously keep your house and think about your relationship but if you are all going to live together your house isn't suitable. Unless you are hoping that if you say no to DSS having somewhere to sleep your partner will leave with his son.

WhyWouldAnyone · 29/06/2025 08:04

user1476613140 · 29/06/2025 07:24

You've reminded me why I will never blend families should anything happen to DH....

Why not just live separately and see each other at weekends??

That's what any sensible parent who prioritised their children's wellbeing would do. Instead, we have far too many that don't seem to be able to function without a partner in their home, create another family then wonder why things go tits up.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 29/06/2025 08:05

He wants to do the best for his son, but then burns through a chunk of money that could help secure his future.
Sorry, OP, but he’s looking to you to do that.
Move back into your home and stay there. That has a mortgage you can afford and is somewhere your daughter likes.
Bonkers idea about a botch job on the garage.
This man is shitting himself that he might have to step up and provide a home for his son, the expense it entails, and the inconvenience to him of doing all the things his live-in housemaid does.
Whatever you do, don’t marry him.
I would rather be on my own, in my home, than live with a man who treated me like this.
He is selfish to the core.