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To not provide DSS with a room

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Moorside111 · 28/06/2025 22:30

Currently living in rented accommodation with partner, our baby, my daughter from ex marriage and his son from his ex marriage. Both step children are 50/50 with their other parents. We currently live in a large house with lots of space and a bedroom for everyone. But the cost of this rent and associated bills is astronomical and we need to either buy our own 4 bed house or rent somewhere cheaper.

My partner earns double what I earn and works long hours. I have a less demanding job and so do most of the housework and childcare for our baby. This might sound ok- apart from the fact that we pay half each of the rent and bills for our current home. So I really feel like he’s onto a pretty good deal. I used to do childcare and school runs for DSS too and recently stopped….but that is another story.

I own a three bed semi, bought with the proceeds of my divorce, which I lived in with my daughter before I met my partner. It’s a lovely house which I renovated and is in a nice desirable area. It’s been rented out but the tenants have given notice to leave in August.

My partner sold his marital home, gave his ex wife 2/3 of the equity and has since burnt through the rest of the money. He has nothing for a deposit for a new home and so we need to sell mine, which would give us a decent deposit for a new 4 bed house.

Ive decided that I don’t want to move to another cheaper rented property, they’re rarely decorated nicely, don’t feel like home to me and I’d probably have to live in a less nice area to get the size we’d want for a cheaper price. So I’ve decided to move back into my 3 bed semi, spruce it up a little bit and eventually sell it- I’m estimating this might take 12 months or so. My daughter loves this house, it’s near school, friends and her dad. She’s looking forward to going back to her old room. When I initially told my partner that I thought this was the best idea, I discussed it with a view to us all moving there together- it would be cramped and not ideal- but it’s a home and only a stepping stone to us buying somewhere bigger. I suggested we put our 1yo baby in with us and decorate the 3rd bedroom for his son. He didn’t like this idea, said I wouldn’t put my daughter in the small room so why should he put his son. He said he’d rent a house so that his son could have more room and when his son was at his mums he would stay with me and our baby.
He suggested that his son and our baby could have the second double room and my daughter have the small room. This might be where I’m being selfish as I won’t compromise on my daughter- the room was hers to begin with, I don’t want her impacted by my choice to blend a family. She was happy to move in with partner and son btw and they all get on well so there’s no issues there. But I also selfishly don’t see why I should impact my daughter for someone else’s child.

We left it like this until this week where he’s realised the move is imminent and he’s now decided he wants to move to the three bed house with me. He said he doesn’t want to live apart from me and our baby- and I don’t want to live apart either. However, I’ve now planned to have a bedroom for each of my children. I going back to work this week, our 1yo is starting nursery, he’s a light sleeper and for the sake of both of us I think he needs his own room for a good nights sleep instead of us waking each other up in a shared room.

my partner has now decided he’ll convert the integral garage for his son so that he’ll have plenty of space. I initially said this would be ok but I’m now feeling uneasy about this too. He’s planning on doing this renovation himself. I didn’t think much damage could be done until he said he was planning on taking the garage door out and getting our friend to fit in some french doors so it would look more like a room. I have two issues with this:

1- friend has done work for me before and it’s shoddy. I worry what the finish of this DIY project will be.

2- the garage door was only put in a couple of years ago, it was expensive, it’s remote electric and matches the front door. The garage was newly rendered and it all looks smart from the road.

AIBU to say no to this project? It feels selfish and I’m basically saying I won’t allow a room to be made for DSS. Creating the room allows us to stay together and still have DSS over to stay. Surely lots of people would do anything to keep the whole family together.

i feel selfish, but also a bit angry that everything has fallen to me- childcare, bills, providing a home. Now I’m potentially damaging my home, my only asset, so that I can house his son.

I realise the phrase ‘his son’ sounds horrid from a step mum and it’s not a reflection of how I am at home. I care for him, treat him the same as my daughter and son. But in reality he has a mother and father- and it feels like his father’s job to ensure he has a house big enough for his family.

OP posts:
TakeMeDancing · 29/06/2025 05:56

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 00:09

The 50% bills thing is an issue, but I have some spousal support from exH and I’ve been getting a rental income from my property, so although I earn a lot less, we have a similar income coming in.

However, due to my shorter working hours I do all of the care of our baby son, and 90% of the housework and cooking. Until I put my foot down recently I was also running around like a blue arsed fly doing two separate school runs a day so that I could collect his son, then making tea and providing childcare until he got back from work. So he really does get a good deal for 50% of the bills.

Be wary of his entitled attitude if you do end up in separate homes—his past behaviour indicates that he will be at your home 100% of the time when DSS is at XW’s, and that he’ll bring over all of his laundry because “it’s easier”. He’ll also contribute precisely £0, despite adding to your utility and grocery bills. And I’m guessing he won’t be paying maintenance for the little one either, because of his rent/car payment.

He needs to pay his keep if he’s staying 50% of the week at yours.

Survivingnotthriving24 · 29/06/2025 05:58

Proper garage conversions aren't massively expensive, I can't understand why you wouldn't just do that to give you the 4 bedroom home you want and need. You've spent more on rent than a garage conversion would cost by the sounds of it.
Obviously do it properly with a builder and planning permission.

Mulledjuice · 29/06/2025 06:05

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 28/06/2025 22:38

Where did you find this prince, and if you’ve had a baby together why on earth aren’t your finances properly combined, ie why are you paying half the bills when he earns more??

Also how did he burn through all this money??

I’d rethink the whole thing if I were you, however it would be crappy not to convert the garage for his son to have a room, given he lives with you 50% of the time. Just tell the prince he needs to take out a loan and do it properly.

I can see it’s annoying, but the chaos of the adults around him is not your stepsons fault, whereas you have chosen this situation, so you gotta put your back into it, or get shot of Mr Useless.

THIS

Mulledjuice · 29/06/2025 06:07

Does he actually work in construction/ have a great track record in DIY?

Where is he going to find the time to do this conversion properly if he works such long hours that he doesnt seem to be able to pull his weight at home.

What did he spend all his equity on?

1apenny2apenny · 29/06/2025 06:07

I would guess that it’s dawned on him that he’ll have to do all his own wifework and childcare. In this scenario I would saying that if he does move in with you then it’s a good time to reset. He needs to take responsibility for 50% if chores and do all childcare for his son. He would have to do 100% if he was on his own. When will both men and women understand that earning more doesn’t give you a ticket to get out of thevwit needed at home that you create eg cooking, laundry.

The answer to this is he either rents himself or compromises his son’s sleeping arrangements. Tell him the garage is a no go. Planning and building works are now £££ and probably won’t add £££.

ExpertArchFormat · 29/06/2025 06:15

The 3 bed house is unsuitable for this blended family

Your partner is a useless, financially incontinent drain on you who is expecting you to deal with the impact of his lack of resources despite having a higher income.

Honestly the best solution is for you to split up and go and live in your 3 bed home with your 2 children and let him sort himself out.

I will lay good money that his method of sorting himself out will be to fall deeply in love with another financially secure single mum with a mortgage-free home, and get her pg as soon as possible. Ot's a tried and tested method that many men use.

Lavenderflower · 29/06/2025 06:15

I think you need to prioritise your own children - he sounds very entitled to request his son have the bigger room. I wouldn't allow him to convert the garage - he doesn't have the funds for a bigger house and he is contributing a higher amount - what makes you think he can afford to convert a garage. The issues is he cannot afford to provide a home for his son and he blew away his equity. I think the best thing is for you to move back to your place and for him find a property for son.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2025 06:16

Unfortunately your decisions had an impact on your daughter when you decided to create a blended family. And now you've had another baby you can't unblend it because your baby will always be there.

You and your partner seem really bad at figuring things out and communicating with each other. You really need to decide whether you actually want to live together or not. If you do, he needs to accept paying more towards your home because his earnings are higher. You can only afford to live in the house you own or rent a three bedroom house, neither of which are big enough. So he needs to put his hand in his pocket and contribute more so you can have a four bedroom house, or he needs to go his own way.

Converting the garage sounds like a terrible idea. Without conversion it is not fit for human habitation. Presumably it doesn't have any windows or radiators. But if you are going to convert it, it needs to be done properly. You need to get planning permission, it'll need to be connected to your heating system, all that will cost money. Getting your partner's cowboy mate to do it is a terrible idea for all sorts of reasons. And if your partner pays for the conversion he could argue later that he owns a share of your house.

Starseeking · 29/06/2025 06:17

He wants to move in because he wants to live somewhere for free!

Thingyfanding · 29/06/2025 06:20

AnneLovesGilbert · 28/06/2025 23:13

I don’t understand why you’ve been paying 50/50 when he’s a much higher earner. What’s the reason?

OP said he has more outgoings and has to pay spousal support and OP has fewer outgoings and is in receipt of maintenance

Muffinmam · 29/06/2025 06:21

Do not let this man make any changes to your property!!

This could lower the value of your only asset and/or allow him to make a claim on your house - because he has spent money renovating it.

If he moves in with you then you charge him rent. You’ve been paying rent when you have a perfectly good house to house you and your children.

Do not sell your only asset to buy a property with this man who is terrible with money! He has already blown through all the money he got for his own house.

He is taking financial advantage of you.

He should be housing his own child and paying you child support.

This guy is a loser. Why should his son get the bigger bedroom? It’s not his house!! It’s yours.

Muffinmam · 29/06/2025 06:24

Moorside111 · 28/06/2025 23:07

We haven’t had a discussion about what he would pay towards my mortgage and bills. He only brought up the idea of moving into the house today

Because he looked at rentals and realised within you paying half the rent it would be too expensive for him.

This guy is trying to take advantage of you!!

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 29/06/2025 06:27

Muffinmam · 29/06/2025 06:21

Do not let this man make any changes to your property!!

This could lower the value of your only asset and/or allow him to make a claim on your house - because he has spent money renovating it.

If he moves in with you then you charge him rent. You’ve been paying rent when you have a perfectly good house to house you and your children.

Do not sell your only asset to buy a property with this man who is terrible with money! He has already blown through all the money he got for his own house.

He is taking financial advantage of you.

He should be housing his own child and paying you child support.

This guy is a loser. Why should his son get the bigger bedroom? It’s not his house!! It’s yours.

If the alteration were done properly with a building warrant and planning permission it will increase the value.

Thingyfanding · 29/06/2025 06:27

Can you convert the loft instead? He can pay a professional to do it as his contribution to the household.

I’ve been a single parent with a baby and it wouldn’t be ideal having him live separately even if he isn’t the greatest help. I would let his son have the small room in the meantime until you’ve extended and baby is in with you. Your step son should be ok with that, especially if he knows you’re working on getting him a bigger space.
keep your house and do not sell it in a year.

Muffinmam · 29/06/2025 06:29

Moorside111 · 28/06/2025 23:45

I’m in agreement with all of this. I am feeling frustrated, firstly at the imbalance in our current rented home and I think that’s making me stand firm on taking a risk on renovations.

my daughters room isn’t and never was in question. I can honestly say that throughout this time she’s never had to deal with anything other than being my priority.

im more than happy for DSS to share the baby’s room when he’s here, I’d even put the baby in with me so that he wasn’t disturbed. But my partner feels he should have a proper room of his own- and I get that, I wouldn’t settle for anything less for my own children

If your boyfriend wants his son to have his own room then he can rent a flat for them both to live in. He doesn’t get to do a shoddy conversion to your functional garage!!

This is utterly ridiculous to me.

He doesn’t want to pay rent and thinks he can strong arm you into giving away your daughter’s bedroom!

This isn’t a good man.

SheilaFentiman · 29/06/2025 06:30

I think the “ he earns double” is too simplistic, as OP is also getting payments from her ex and £1k profit a month from her rental.

However - the spending of the house equity and the lack of any additional savings are still worrying! As is the lack of equality on baby care.

TwinklyRoseTurtle · 29/06/2025 06:31

I think financially you would be better off alone

Caligirl80 · 29/06/2025 06:33

outerspacepotato · 29/06/2025 02:10

"This lady needs legal advice and protections before she lets any bloke start faffing around with her separately owned property."

This, this, this.

Please get legal advice before you let him or a buddy of his touch anything. If I understand your laws correctly, him doing diy and investing time and money into your own home could give him a claim to a portion of the proceeds when you sell or if you split up, owe him money.

This is your child's security and your baby's and yours. You need to wise up and tell this dude no, he's not messing with your biggest asset.

It sounds like you're afraid to tell him no over his fucky diy plan. What are you afraid of here?

He's got more salary than you. He can house his kid and himself.

Exactly right. Quoting in the hopes that the more times we say all of this the more it'll sink in!!!

Teaacup · 29/06/2025 06:34

Get rid of him. He has more money than you but expects you to pay for everything. Please don’t marry. Kick him out of your house.

Retrouvailles · 29/06/2025 06:34

Do not let him make any contribution whatsoever towards the maintenance and renovation of YOUR house - he w.ill then have a future claim on it.

Never marry him- he's burnt through so much money already that he should have ringfenced for his sons furure stability. He's shown you who he is, sadly.

Don't let your mislead heart rule your head.

Easipeelerie · 29/06/2025 06:34

You need to split up.

hattie43 · 29/06/2025 06:34

OrangeAndPistachio · 28/06/2025 22:51

I really can't see how this relationship benefits you at all op.

This . Your OP doesn’t offer any financial stability and yet is determining what happens to your own house , possibly your daughter’s future inheritance.

SheilaFentiman · 29/06/2025 06:37

If the move back to the three bed is temporary - 12 months, you mention - then it is madness to make a permanent change to the house with a garage conversion, which will be expensive and lengthy.

So for a year, juggling sofa beds or travel cots in your room should be ok if everyone knows the goal is to buy a 4 bed in the near term.

However, if this is the plan, then you need to sit down and decide who needs to save what, can he get a cheaper car etc. With mortgage of £600 pcm vs him paying half the prior rent, he should be able to save a fair bit. Not just rely on the sale of your house. And you need to agree what life will be like in the new house - not necessary 50/50 split of costs when you earn less.

rwalker · 29/06/2025 06:39

Reading your updates I would rent again
keep your house as just yours protect your assets
if you let him convert the garage he’s done work on the house that could potentially add to the value so he may have a case to claim a stake in The house

tbh some of your post is very misleading you initially said he earns double you and you pay 50/50 but then you later added you have other sources of income so you actually have the same amount of money coming in .also he has larger outgoings than you so in fact you have more money than him .paying 50/50 is fair enough

all housework and baby left to you . We need more info on what hours both of you work to work out what’s fair

as for if he pays rent if you move into your house the standard MN advice is
if your a woman pay nothing unless your on the deeds
if your a man your a cock lodger if you don’t pay market rent

protect your asset keep your house out of the equation rent it out

Caligirl80 · 29/06/2025 06:41

Survivingnotthriving24 · 29/06/2025 05:58

Proper garage conversions aren't massively expensive, I can't understand why you wouldn't just do that to give you the 4 bedroom home you want and need. You've spent more on rent than a garage conversion would cost by the sounds of it.
Obviously do it properly with a builder and planning permission.

Why should she get a garage conversion? She doesn't need one!! Her house is the perfect size for her, her daughter, and the baby. No garage conversion needed. indeed garage conversions can lower the value of a house in some neighbourhoods, not raise it. And it would need to be done properly with all proper permissions if she ever wanted to be able to market the property as a 4 bedroom house.

You're missing the point here which is that she is attached - via the baby - to a waste of space man who is taking advantage of her. And presumably underlying it is the fact that she probably fell for a bit of lovebombing, which turned into a baby, and now she's convinced herself she can't do any better for herself than this nitwit. Sadly this happens all the time.

So, again: OP: get out now. Move back to your house that you own with your daughter and STOP giving a free ride to this guy! Turn the little bedroom into a nice room for your baby. And enjoy being single!!! You don't need this albatross of bad financial decisions and stress around your neck!!! There are men out there who will make your life better, not cause a load of stress and angst.