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Why do we still have so many apostrophes in English?

304 replies

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 19:35

It takes so much longer to type anything on the phone.

Apostrophe's were originally in place to show two words shortened into one. But the shortened versions of the words have been in the English langauge for so long now, why do we need the apostrophes.

The word 'Dont' for example, is easily understandable, without an apostrophe.

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murasaki · 27/06/2025 20:22

I'll probably die on the hill that is people using 'less' when it should be 'fewer'.

DP does it to wind me up and will probably have it engraved on my tombstone.

tammienorrie · 27/06/2025 20:22

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 19:47

How come we use more than other languages do?

Because in other languages possessives are formed differently. El coche de Juan - Juan’s car. La maison de Julie - Julie’s house.

IToldYouSoSee · 27/06/2025 20:25

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 19:50

On mumsnet? If you don't write perfect English on mumsnet, you will be jumped on.

I wrote a post on mumset once without apostrophes, as I was fed up of using them.

I got about ten posts from people complaining about my lack of use of apostrophes.

And yet your OP here has a wrongly used apostrophe (they are not needed in a simple plural) and no one jumped.

Other languages have way more complexities than the apostrophe, cases, different structures and use of verbs/masculine, feminine, neutral, vocative, cursive and printed scripts being different, vowels completely absent.

So many moan about ‘are England’ and can’t even spell or construct their own language correctly.

Slebs · 27/06/2025 20:26

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 19:35

It takes so much longer to type anything on the phone.

Apostrophe's were originally in place to show two words shortened into one. But the shortened versions of the words have been in the English langauge for so long now, why do we need the apostrophes.

The word 'Dont' for example, is easily understandable, without an apostrophe.

Apostrophes, or more correctly, the apostrophe.

The apostrophe is used for contraction of words, as you say but also for possesion.

E.g. The apostrophe's apostrophe in the OP's sentence was unnecessary.

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 20:28

OldChinaJug · 27/06/2025 20:12

That's already been said by someone else, and I've already replied.

You don't need a comma in this sentence either.

Christ almighty.

The title of my thread wasn't 'My English is perfect', was it?

My English is definitely not perfect, especially when I am typing on a small keypad on a phone.

Are you trying to hurt me somehow by pointing out my Grammar mistakes.

That's a very strange thing to do!

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ReignOfError · 27/06/2025 20:28

It’s the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you’re shit.

Now, about Oxford commas…

InterestedDad37 · 27/06/2025 20:29

"Apostrophe's were originally in place to..."

Irony alert 👆
You should learn how to use them properly before you try to ban them 😂😂😂

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 20:29

Slebs · 27/06/2025 20:26

Apostrophes, or more correctly, the apostrophe.

The apostrophe is used for contraction of words, as you say but also for possesion.

E.g. The apostrophe's apostrophe in the OP's sentence was unnecessary.

Again!

That has already been said four times now.

Why did you say it again?

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Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 20:29

InterestedDad37 · 27/06/2025 20:29

"Apostrophe's were originally in place to..."

Irony alert 👆
You should learn how to use them properly before you try to ban them 😂😂😂

Oh my dear God.

Does anyone read a thread.

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Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 20:30

IToldYouSoSee · 27/06/2025 20:25

And yet your OP here has a wrongly used apostrophe (they are not needed in a simple plural) and no one jumped.

Other languages have way more complexities than the apostrophe, cases, different structures and use of verbs/masculine, feminine, neutral, vocative, cursive and printed scripts being different, vowels completely absent.

So many moan about ‘are England’ and can’t even spell or construct their own language correctly.

No one jumped?

Are you serious?

Did you read the thread. At least five posters have jumped at me about this.

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murasaki · 27/06/2025 20:30

ReignOfError · 27/06/2025 20:28

It’s the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you’re shit.

Now, about Oxford commas…

Firmly in the 'no' camp.

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 20:31

BIossomtoes · 27/06/2025 20:06

Well, you would, wouldn’t you?

Of course.

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DoggerelBank · 27/06/2025 20:31

I love to get grammar and punctuation right - pedant by job and by nature - but I agree with OP, they're a pain when typing on the phone etc. I vote ditch the lot. We cope with loads of other confusing things like tears in your eyes and tears in your clothes, so I expect we'd cope if we'll = well and we're = were.

Slebs · 27/06/2025 20:31

Because I haven't read the thread. Your post was so beautifully set up for the reply I just couldn't help myself.

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 20:32

OldChinaJug · 27/06/2025 20:14

I'd be more worried about your understanding of commas than the use of apostrophes.

A strange thing to be worried about.

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Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 20:33

DoggerelBank · 27/06/2025 20:31

I love to get grammar and punctuation right - pedant by job and by nature - but I agree with OP, they're a pain when typing on the phone etc. I vote ditch the lot. We cope with loads of other confusing things like tears in your eyes and tears in your clothes, so I expect we'd cope if we'll = well and we're = were.

Yes they are definitely a pain to type out and I am sure that we could cope without them.

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Slebs · 27/06/2025 20:34

Surely if you have autocorrect the correct version is available without typing it in every time?

Kirova · 27/06/2025 20:34

Theres no need for apostrophe's. People just use them to make them look more intelligent than other's. The more the better.

lidolemon · 27/06/2025 20:35

Some other languages indicate possession by saying/writing 'the cat of/from my father', whereas we say my father's cat. The apostrophe cuts out quite a few words- time saving!

FallingIsLearning · 27/06/2025 20:35

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 19:55

Okay so let's look at a different word.

I'm.

That would make sense as Im.

There is no other ' Im' in the English language.

What about in a passage where the author is trying to convey a sense of colloquial speech?

I'm versu 'im.
e.g.
" 'Im over there!" shouted the boy, trying to confuse his pursuer.
"I'm over there!" shouted the boy, trying to confuse his pursuer.

I accept that the context of the surrounding passage would probably allow the reader to infer which of the two was intended. However, if it appeared in a script or in the lyrics to a song, the correct contraction would be very helpful.

murasaki · 27/06/2025 20:37

Kirova · 27/06/2025 20:34

Theres no need for apostrophe's. People just use them to make them look more intelligent than other's. The more the better.

Another one where I want the laugh emoji back for genuine reasons.

ranthanbore · 27/06/2025 20:39

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 19:47

How come we use more than other languages do?

Is this a serious question?..

murasaki · 27/06/2025 20:39

FallingIsLearning · 27/06/2025 20:35

What about in a passage where the author is trying to convey a sense of colloquial speech?

I'm versu 'im.
e.g.
" 'Im over there!" shouted the boy, trying to confuse his pursuer.
"I'm over there!" shouted the boy, trying to confuse his pursuer.

I accept that the context of the surrounding passage would probably allow the reader to infer which of the two was intended. However, if it appeared in a script or in the lyrics to a song, the correct contraction would be very helpful.

Edited

But in both of those there's an apostrophe, it's the placements it that changes the meaning. So the OP wouldn't like either!

B0D · 27/06/2025 20:39

@Sminty2
or shall you ?🙂

Boliviabae · 27/06/2025 20:40

murasaki · 27/06/2025 20:37

Another one where I want the laugh emoji back for genuine reasons.

Me too. I want it to laugh at all the fools who have said the exact same thing as each other.

It's absolutely pathetic.

Stop fucking abusing me over and over for a fucking grammar mistake.

Look at the state of your writing. Do you think your writing is correct English? It certainly isn't.

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