To refuse to provide bank statement to my work to prove I was in the office

[HanExplorer]

I’ve found myself in a very unusual situation and am standing firm so far despite pressure.

I work in a hybrid role with a requirement to attend our office twice a week, this is measured monthly based on card swipe data. On one of the days in May, I forgot my pass so was issued a temporary one to use that day.

Earlier this month my manager flagged I was showing a day short for office attendance in May and said I’d need to make up a further day in June. I looked at the dates they had on record and quickly realised the missing one was when I had the temporary pass so that obviously hadn’t registered on the system.

I explained this to my manager and she still maintained I’d need to attend an extra day to balance the totals on the system as there ‘wasn’t any record of me attending’.

I realised I’d spent money in the on site restaurant that day and there’d be a record on my bank showing the company name. I screenshotted this on my phone, cropped it so you could see the date and sent it to my manager.

She has checked with her manager and told me that I need to provide a copy of a bank statement which shows my name and the transaction - that would of course also show all my other activity!!

This has been dragging on and I’m standing firm so far, but I’ve had a call booked in with my manager and her manager for tomorrow and I’m wary of what they are going to say.

My office is over an hours train journey each way so not a case of driving 5 minutes down the road to work a further day - regardless, I don’t feel I should do out of principle.

Yes, their application of this policy is shite and good that you've revealed the hole in relation to temp passes, but I think you've been unecessarily combative too. Even if your statements are electronic you can print them off and redact using a marker pen, not software - doh!. As for your comments that MNers are anti wfh.....what???

If they are issuing temp passes without keeping records, that's a huge security risk. How are they ensuring these are all returned at the end of the day, if they don't know how many they've given out?

If badge data is unreliable they can easily verify attendance through IT data. This would confirm the date and duration of your laptop was connection to the office network.

If her manager goes out of her way not to promote OP or look favourably at her performance when performance-based pay rises/bonuses are being considered, she would discriminating against OP and breaking the law. Given that the Union is pretty influential in OP's company, OP's manager would be on very dodgy ground if they deliberately did this out of spite because their conduct in demanding a copy of OP's bank statement was against company policy.

If they are issuing temp passes without keeping records, that's a huge security risk. How are they ensuring these are all returned at the end of the day, if they don't know how many they've given out?

I think that's possibly the most important point here! They really need a good, reliable system to monitor who's in the building. For fire safety too.

Is this the very first time that you have forgotten your pass or not done your allocated days?

Civil service by any chance? I think it’s strange your manager isn’t accepting the first copy of your transaction. Can they check the sign in and out sheet from when you were given a temporary pass. Maybe speak to HR

Yes I have, and it is really vague on what exactly was resolved.

As best I can tell (but it is vague), the meeting today was to do with OP's refusal to produce her bank statement and is closed (presumably in the OP's favor).

She explains that the policy only says attendance is to be monitored by logging security passes, so they can't demanding ID. Everything else seems to be stuff the union rep said to her (including what demands they intend to make).

It's really weird that the post doesn't say anything about what the company actually said/agreed.

And I will say...In less than 24 hours....OP speaks to union about it for first time, union reviews the policy and sends a written argument to her employer, employer (with several levels of management) makes prompt decision....

...I feel a little like demanding some bank statements.

This!

On my phone banking app I can search by transaction. So just bring up the app, search company name and only print off / screen shot those transactions.

Sorry just caught up on all op’s responses.
Glad it was resolved. Not sure why a AIBU post was required for this mind. The union rep route seemed more appropriate.

Please don’t act like you know me. My attitude isn’t weird and is shared by many others on here. I am very self respecting and don’t appreciate the personal attack. What a weird attitude if it doesn’t agree with you? How narrow your world must be that if it isn’t your view then it must be weird. Argue the point not the person.

Yeah they would be but let’s be really honest you can always find something against someone if you want to as people aren’t perfect: especially if it comes to attitude which is unquantifiable despite competency frameworks.

It was your fault you forgot your pass so it was for you to prove you were there. You could have resolved this quickly without making a fuss and involving a union rep! 🙄 It’s very simple to screenshot a bank statement on your phone and use the mark-up edit thing in Photos to cross out everything else with a thick black marker. Problem solved without a drama.

You have now flagged yourself up to management as a troublemaker and your over-reaction looks shifty so it’s not the big win you think.

Pot, kettle. You are both two cheeks of the same arse. You were equally as personal about OP, calling her smug and being very unpleasant.

It's extremely difficult to remember that people on here are adults. What a ridiculous thread to start making personal attacks on. It's literally a discussion about a security pass FGS.

nope. They have a system for employees who’ve forgotten a pass, to give them access to the office, a secure building, where they can access the network, a secure network. It’s their fault it’s a crap system also that they are being crap managers, and it’s on them to be slightly less crap managers and to follow their own processes, not exceed them, and put in the tiny bit of extra work to check their own system, rather than treat a good employee with a good record like a criminal. This is all really clear and that’s why they collapsed like a house of cards when the union got involved. If you support management here you’re crap at management too. I am all for adhering to policy and meeting reasonable requests at work, with consequences for eg not doing mandatory training, but this was not adhering to policy nor a reasonable request.

You have completely failed to understand. They breached the policy, not the op breached. They had a policy that failed to measure attendance for all of the ways they formally permit staff to enter the office, that’s on the policy owner to rectify. Have you never written a policy?

You were really rude to and about the OP. You hoped that her manager, who failed to follow company procedures, would break employment law by deliberately bearing a grudge and refusing to act in accordance with complany policy and the law when deciding whether OP is eligible for a pay increase or a bonus.

You think that a personal attack on OP is OK but anyone criticising you is attacking you. Phrases like 'your attitude and approach stinks' and 'celebrate your smugness on this win with an own goal on your career' are spiteful and juvenile.

Wrong. I said it was bound to happen. Sorry I didn’t realise you were the OP’s protector.

Many many many in my time? Have you never had an opinion that disagreed with you and you accepted that people think differently?

Totally crazy 😮 😮 This is one of the most bonkers things I’ve ever heard!! I can’t believe they’d be so obsessed with 40% office attendance that they’d have you ‘make up’ the day anyway, let alone for a mistake as you’ve described. Your managers clearly haven’t got enough work to do if they’ve got time for ridiculous meetings about this. I think it’s time to get a new job if this is the culture at your place.

I would bet my house this OP is very close to retiring!

Indeed. No wonder we have a productivity problem in the UK.

But when you look at schools and the time they waste on policing uniform, you can see where it starts.

And then reading some of these comments it is clear that the sort of manager that would enforce such a stupid, time wasting policy exist in real life & are here attacking the OP for having the audacity to stand up for herself 🙄

Have you forgotten your pass before? They're being petty if not. What happened to the temporary pass?

I'd send an email saying what you have, make sure it's all in writing and leave them to chase.

They can have all the meetings they want. You're not refusing to go in.

Consider looking for a new job, you're been treated like a child here.

The OP breached the policy that says bring your pass to gain entry.