Everyone being so over the top / pushy doctor?

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Hi everyone.
currently on holiday in Cyprus. I have 2 heart conditions, prolonged QT and SVT. Just to paint a picture a few years ago I discovered the two. I started having seizures and it wasn't a good time. I had to stop driving and spent a long time in hospital. Fast forward 3 years I'm driving again, living a normal life on medication etc.

i do get heart spikes, most days in fact. Due to these two conditions my heart sits at about 110 and eating is a trigger. All I need to do is chill out, take my medication and it'll pass.
last night at dinner with everyone around me my heart spiked to about 124 (this is nothing, it can go to 200s)

the protocol from my cardio team is that if I have a seizure / if my heart spikes to 160+ for 10 minutes or more then I go to hospital.

when I'd finished my food we left to go back to the room. I went up to a staff member and kindly asked if someone could collect us as I don't feel very well. There were a couple of nurses in earshot that then started ordering chairs, asking to give me space and asked what's the matter. I said to them my heart is a little quick but this happens ALL THE TIME and I just need to get back to the room. They wouldn't let me and quite literally blocked me from going. They were taking my pulse and it was 124. They then instructed staff for an ambulance. This was working me up by this point as nobody was listening. I didn't need an ambulance I just needed to go back and chill out. Ambulance was called.

my brother at this point told everyone to calm down and cancel the ambulance. They did.

instead they had asked the staff to call a doctor.
doctor game and immediately said I need to go to hospital (without doing a single check.) I know my body. Nobody was listening to me. When everyone realised that I'm not going, I had to sign a waiver saying I was refusing treatment. The doctor was very pushy for me to go, he demanded my passport details, address, GP details etc.

eventually my heart rate settled (as it always does) and the doctor saw that I was fine. But I felt so pressured he even got a cardiologist on the phone to me on his phone saying you have to come in and have bloods and be admitted. Saying that I could die. All of this hyperbole over something that happens to me most days. Nobody was listening.

the doctor then said I need to pay him €150 for the visit. I questioned this as I never called a doctor. A lot of people at dinner were drunk (I don't drink) and it was so dramatic. Realising I wasn't getting out of the €150 I paid it. Realising he has charged be twice x2 €150!!!! He then started being super nice saying everyone was being dramatic and that he will call me tomorrow (today) to refund the €150.

do I ask for the full €300 back? AIBU to think this is ridiculous? I felt so cornered and claustrophobic. These nurses were telling me to breathe into paper bags, to clear space, shouting 'SHES GOING TO HAVE A SEIZURE' - I haven't had a seizure in 3 years. I have my license back and cleared for driving. At no point was I worried. I have a device in my chest that alerts me if I'm in arrhythmia and it didn't go off. I tried to explain this. It happens nearly every time I eat an evening meal. I wasn't in SVT and medication corrects my prolonged QT.

just feel so shit about it all today. I just feel like there was lots of hyperbole and people wanting to be the hero / medical professional out of work times. Perhaps im being harsh but the 2 nurses weren't even listening to me. They kept telling me I need to do this I need to do that. I know what I need to do, I have protocol from my team and I wasn't panicking. I was just getting pissed off no one was listening to me and now I've ended up being charged $300 for the experience!

thanks for reading so sorry it's long.

As soon as you 'report' your condition to someone in authority (the hotel staff, in this instance), you make them responsible for you. There are plenty of people who are happy to sue and say, 'but they knew I had such-and-such'. They have to be wary.

If you just wanted a ride back to your room it would have been fine to say you were very tired after a busy day, or you'd eaten too much, or something neutral. As soon as you said ''my hearts a bit quick, this happens all the time don't worry" you were putting them in a very difficult position. They would naturally look for medical advice, and would be right to, not having medical training, or access to your notes. And they would assume you wanted them to know about your heart, as you mentioned it.

But OP didn’t ask for a doctor or nurse. She asked for a buggy back to her room. She says there were some drunk nurses who overheard and got themselves involved. The situation escalated from there. If l had a health condition l managed myself perfectly well and had been treated like this without my consent, and then charged for the privilege l’d be furious, and l suspect that goes for most people. If OP had asked for medical help it would have been a different matter, but she didn’t.

Saying the three words ’It’s my heart’ will raise alarm. It’s not the same as saying ‘my ankle is swelling up.

OP honestly Id step away from this thread. The responses are now straying into all sort of irrelevant stuff!

You are not unreasonable to expect people to listen to you !

You must have done. Seizures aren't a common symptom of SVT. Fainting is (or syncope as it's known) but not seizures. I'd be surprised if a Dr or nurse jumped to that conclusion all by themselves.

Seizures are usually neurological events. Or functional in some instances. Not usually cardiac.

But I wasn't in SVT.
I had a slightly elevated heart rate.

to put it into perspective my pulse is currently 118.
normal for me. I just don't need to overdo it when it happens.

there was no danger. It was pure hyperbole and nurses who were drunk getting involved to cause a medical heroic performance.'

Read the post.

Im with you-sounds like they wanted to have the good feeling of ‘saving’ someone-but they should’ve backed off when you said it’s controlled. I have borderline Long QT and as I’ve never blacked out or had seizures, I’ve been told all good. But sometimes it takes a lot to get through to drunk people.

That’s what insurance is for. Why were they demanding money from you? It seems to be about money! You certainly wouldn’t get that level of attention in the U.K.

It still doesn’t alter the fact that they didn’t listen to OP and acted without her consent.

You're right. Seizures aren't common for SVT.
they are a common symptom of prolonged QT though, which I have and have explained in my post.

'My hearts a bit quick but it's normal for me and nothing to worry about'

is very different to

'ITS MY HEARTTTT'

that didn't happen.

"I need help" and then saying it was her heart was the mistake. The nurses (stop going on about them being drunk like it's some kind of slur on them) they were on holiday not uniformed up in their day jobs. These nurses were not going to ignore op when she said it was her 'heart'.

She'd have been far better to say she didn't feel well , she knows what it is but just needs a wheelchair up to the room, without going into detail. If op has had prior experience with this she knows the drill.

Part of me can't help pondering whether she liked the attention it brought. Some people do like to talk about their conditions. But this is the flip side I'm afraid.

But the staff weren't responsible.. they didn't get involved at the start.
the drunk nurses did.

Please read my replies.

at no point did I ask for help and at no point did I say 'it's my heart'

Oh behave 😂😂😂😂😂

Read the thread. DVLA are aware of her condition. She has had her licence returned and been cleared to drive.

For the final time: stop using "drunk" as a prefix to those people. They weren't "drunk nurses" they were people drinking on holiday (their jobs happened to be in nursing ) I find it distasteful and arrogant how you're judging them when they were attempting to help you. (In this is coming from someone who doesn't drink ) Your judgement and attitude is really starting to leak through now.

OP ask for the thread to be taken down. MN loves a pile on and that’s what the next 33 pages are going to be.

Ah okay so you were there and you heard everything that was said.

me: please can I have a buggy to the room I don't feel too well
staff: yes of course, what's wrong?
me: my hearts a bit quick but it's normal for me and nothing to worry about

nurses come bounding over: your heart? What's wrong? puts hands on my chest and on my wrist

me: I have SVT and long QT. I am not in SVT and my heart is just a little elevated due to me eating which happens a lot.

that is literally a word for word transcript on what happened. What's coming up next that you need to pick the bones out of?

If that's your response to a sensible post it tells me quite a lot about you.

They were nurses. They were drunk.

drunk + nurses = drunk nurses.

they also said themselves they were drunk.

THEY WERE DRUNK NURSES

Op is not doing herself any favours by the repeated "drunk nurses" phrase

thanks for the laughs, it's making me feel better 😂😂

But they were DRUNK NURSES

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