People no longer have pride In how they drsss.

[Welliesandtweed]

I've increasingly noticed that people are getting scruffier and scruffier in how they dress.

Some of the secretaries where I work come in, In trainers, band t shirts, coloured hair, loose fitting, cheap tops. I wouldn't do the garden in some of the outfits I see. They aren't typically patient facing but on occasion are. I think it really lacks professionalism to turn up scruffy to work.

Same for people out for an evening meal in jogging bottoms.

On Saturday we had sports day at school and every woman was in a nice dress and men in chinos / short chinos and shirts. Children all in proper PE uniform. It was so refreshing to see.

It's alternative to the perceived societal "norm". Just because a large group of people do the same thing doesn't stop it being alternative to the "norm".

No one with alternative style is claiming to be the only person with that style. That's people who dress like a large group of people do and then claim they're "an individual". Which, incidentally, we all are.

before covid i remember seeing an admin in a hospital, long flowing skirt, vest shirt, flip flops, totally inappropriate wear for a hospital, we do have rules

Dressing for an occasion- soft play I would wear jeans and a jumper/ t shirt. For work I wear a dress either with boots and tights or clear tights and flat shoes/ wedges. For walking the dogs it's wellies etc.

I never said you should go everywhere in a dress. I suggested that you should try and look faintly presentable in public. Tracksuit bottoms just for the gym or sports field. Something tidy and a bit more formal or at least smart casual for work.

People have an attitude about being called scruffy for wearing what they're comfortable in when they are allowed to do so.

I'm allowed to wear jeans to work. I can show up in a hoody. It's all within the dress code. If there is a specified dress code for anything, I will adhere to it. Where there isn't, I'll wear what I'm happy in, because I don't exist to make sure you are happy looking at me.

I have no "attitude" about being asked to do my job, I do my job and I do it well. My "attitude" comes out when being criticised for no reason by someone for what I'm wearing, purely because they think it should be different.

And when that person can't even double check their spellings on an insult aimed at people who have no impact on their lives, it's just laughable.

@Welliesandtweed I’m late to the thread but totally with you. I’m all for comfort but you can be comfortable without wearing joggers etc. I live to get a bit “dressed up” making a bit of an effort which is for me, not anyone else.

Personally I'm a fan of dopamine dressing, just wear what fits your mood....regardless of occassion.
Although the amount of leggings and sleeveless puffers round my way the prevailing moods seem to be bored or depressed!

Exactly this. Thank you.

No, people are objecting to you calling them scruffy for dressing differently to you and for wearing bright colours or a hair colour you’ve decided you don’t like.

Most people are able to read a situation and dress appropriately, it’s just that their ‘appropriate’ might be different to yours.

Sports day for most of us is a couple of hours stood in a muddy school field during the school day. It doesn’t warrant a nice dress and certainly doesn’t involve afternoon tea.

Many of us work for organisations where formal dress isn’t required or might only be needed on occasion. Therefore we might choose comfort and a style that works for us - people would think I’d gone mad if I started dressing formally at my work place. Smart/casual is the norm.

We’ve also objected to some posters insisting that women should dress in a feminine way and show off their bodies and rightly called it regressive and stereotypical bullshit.

People have objected to your insults and narrow minded comments and you have the cheek to say we’ve got an attitude.

I think the one with the attitude is the one going
"But why can't everyone be like me?" And calling people scruffy or badly dressed because they have dyed hair or wear bright colours

Gigs. Or the specific band’s website. I’ve found Amplified have gone off the boil in recent years.

Leggings and sleeveless puffers make you feel depressed?

I love my leggings, they make me feel comfortable and happy. They make DH make funny noises when I bend over 🤣. I don't put them on to be depressed in.

I don't own a sleeveless puffer but my body warmers are excellent for walking the dogs I overheat easy but then so many women's clothes don't have enough pockets I either need a jacket or a bag and that's just too much. Body warmer gives me pockets without the added weight of a jacket. Happy.

Short answer - a dress!

Detailed answer:

1- can't say I've ever been asked to do this
2 - I haven't done this in years, but the answer is a dress. With leggings.
3 - I have no idea why I wouldn't do this in a dress? I am a dog owner, I take regular long walks, we live surrounded by hills. I wear a dress. Why wouldn't I walk in a dress?

The answer is always dress. Working? dress. Day out with the kids? dress. Gardening? dress. Bed? nightdress. Swimming pool? Swimdress

I haven't worn anything other than a dress since my maternity jeans when pregnant with my eldest. He's 12. It hasn't held me back. There is a comfortable and flattering dress for all occasions.

And because I always wear dresses, that also means I don't wear t-shirts, blouses or tops of any kind.

OPs problem is that some of the outfits and dress styles she is whining about objectively require as or more much time, care and effort as putting on a dress. It takes more time to dye your hair pink than to not dye it, for example.

She's also failed to explain why her subjective standard of what's appropriate dress for an event is the correct one. And when people have, repeatedly and painstakingly, explained that band t shirts or jeans are actually fine at their work and quite possibly better than a blouse, all that's left for OP to say is that she doesn't like it.

That puts her in difficult territory, because in order to convincingly claim your taste is better than those of the people who wear particular clothes, you need to prove it. OP really hasn't. Which means she can't pull this attitude off.

Yes, as of a few years ago I have fully embraced dresses as well. Usually a short one paired with leggings in winter. Just a dress in summer.
They're so much easier and more comfortable! And no more faffing about matching tops and bottoms.

Also I have a narrow waist and big hips/thighs (pear shape?) Trousers never look flattering on me but a dresses do.

I don't understand the people thinking wearing a dress is somehow a chore or uncomfortable. It's literally the best thing ever, has saved me loads of time and money - my wardrobe is much more streamlined now!

Yep, takes me seconds to get dressed in the summer. Chuck on a dress. A few seconds more in the winter while I add leggings or tights and a cardigan.

I still fail to understand how people who find dresses great can’t accept that others don’t?

the skirt bits either restrict movement or flap
with slim hips I find it hard to get one that fits well
they create for me a greate amount of washing as I wash tops more often than bottoms

I can accept that you are happy / don’t feel that way but please just accept without judgement that other people don’t like wearing dresses and find trousers better for them

I couldn’t care a less what anyone else wears but I take great care over my appearance every single day. It just makes me feel better about myself and happier if I know I look good. I take pleasure in all lovely things, not just clothes.

Taking pride in your appearance doesn’t mean a dress or formal outfit. I see it as clean , well fitting clothes whether that be the shorts and T-shirt I’m wearing today or the bikini and beach cover up I wore last week.

Who, me? What?

I'm not judging people for not wearing dresses, WTF? Neither was the other person from what I can see?

We're just baffled people think they're uncomfortable that's all. Wear all the jeans you want, it's the very least of my worries 😂

Err, if you found my post offensive then that's a you problem. All I did was say how comfy and practical I found them. I didn't insist everyone wear them!

I think that was a general post, I've seen lots of people saying that dresses are clearly more comfortable than trousers.

Why does it baffle you? Is it so completely unbelievable that people are....drumroll....different to one another?

No, it's just a lighthearted curiosity

Nothing has proven your point. If someone's boss tells them they are allowed to wear casual clothes to work how does that mean the employee has an attitude problem?

For someone in their 40s you are coming across like a grumpy older person talking about "in my day". And I say that as someone over 20 years older than you!

I'm sat in my accounts office with a black t-shirt, jeans and flat sandals on. I've brushed my hair and put it in a clip and got some makeup on. I think I look quite nice.

I think my colleages would think I'd lost the plot or think I was going for an interview at lunch if I came in with a posh dress and high heals on.

I don't own a dress, I can remember the last time I wore one. Think it may have been sometime in the noughties or late last century.

Massive chub rub, don't feel like myself in one and they sort of don't suit me or my lifestyle.

I am entirely successful in my working life, now drifting into comfortable retirement. DH doesn't like me in a dress, on wedding day was happier when I changed back into comfortable clothes and said I "looked like myself" again.