People no longer have pride In how they drsss.

[Welliesandtweed]

I've increasingly noticed that people are getting scruffier and scruffier in how they dress.

Some of the secretaries where I work come in, In trainers, band t shirts, coloured hair, loose fitting, cheap tops. I wouldn't do the garden in some of the outfits I see. They aren't typically patient facing but on occasion are. I think it really lacks professionalism to turn up scruffy to work.

Same for people out for an evening meal in jogging bottoms.

On Saturday we had sports day at school and every woman was in a nice dress and men in chinos / short chinos and shirts. Children all in proper PE uniform. It was so refreshing to see.

Pride in how one dresses can come from expressing your own personality in your dress rather than pride for conforming to restrictive and illogical ideal from a subset of society who deem themselves good judges of style

I'm mostly concerned about whether people are good at their jobs, are clean, comfortable and happy. Although I'm a complete scruff who only wears either sports gear or jeans/polo shirts so maybe I'm not the best judge..... 😁

So lovely vibrant colours which look fabulous on tanned skin are considered ‘lurid’ now.

Oh well, almost 60 year old me will carry on wearing gorgeous bright coloured dresses (that I get constantly complimented on) with trainers and not give a single fuck

I haven't RTFT but I am with you, OP.

Apart for the "cheap" bit, no need for that.

People have no decorum, pride, sense of occasion, manners or anything any more. I hate it. I am pleased that we left a lot of the classism, racism, sexism etc back in the Edwardian era, but sometimes I wish we'd kept a few of the manners and customs.

This "you do you" and "be yourself, don't worry what others think" and "that's their problem" has gone too far in my opinion.

People were wearing jeans at my FIL's funeral. I ask you.

I went to a funeral recently where we were told not to wear "funeral attire". And have one coming up where band tees are the dress code.

You would have preferred suits at your father funeral. That's your preference. Other people dislike it and don't want it at theirs / know their loved one wouldn't have wanted it. That's theirs.

People not adhering to a specified dress code is one thing. People complaining that people aren't adhering to their own personal dress codes while adhering to the dress code for their day / occasion is just judgemental.

I'm not sure what you mean?

I said my FIL's funeral. We, his family, specified the dress code?

If you had a preference for the occasion and you have a right to specify - then make sure the guests know . Expecting people to adhere to your unspoken expectations is daft

But it shouldn't be.

It never used to be necessary to specify a dress code for a funeral. People just dressed respectfully, because it's a funeral. Is it also necessary to specify that you don't talk during the service, you don't take a phone call, you don't pick your nose?

My point, and I suspect part of the OP's point, is that there are no societal rules in place any more, that show respect for others.

You're not nearly as clever as you think you are

Maybe it's regional, but when I was at a private school in the 90s there were a few parents who were a bit staid like the OP but a lot of them were really edgy. Very trendy and young in the way they dressed, music taste etc. They would really have laughed at such a 'try hard'. It was a whole new world for a.working class girl on a scholarship.
The old school friends I have who have sent their kids to private are the same. Very on trend etc no way would they be seen dead in a 'naice' sensible dress with 'tidy' hair. Their whole look is always put together without being try hard. It all sounds very white and middle aged.
To be fair it's a more diverse area here.

Just what I was going to say!

I can absolutely see your point, although I don't think that people's state of dress is necessarily a guarantee of a lack of respect for others.

In the example of your FIL's funeral - my condolences, by the way - did the people wearing jeans behave badly at the gathering, or show any disrespect by their manner? I'm not for a moment suggesting your feelings of irritation are wrong or invalid; rather, I do think that the idea our sartorial choices should be the sole measure of our 'respectability' no longer holds the relevance it once did.

Tempora mutantur et nos mutamur in illis, as it were.

My dad had Parkinson's. The only clothes he could manage in public were jogging bottoms. Sorry if you may have come across him and thought he was scruffy.

That's what I mean. You can be annoyed that people aren't adhering to that dress code because it's an event you organised and specified.

But you can't be annoyed about people just going about their day who don't adhere to the dress code in your mind. Because they're following a dress code for whatever is going on in their day.

And the way you spoke about jeans at a funeral sounded like you thought all funerals should be the same dress code.

"It’s summer fgs put some sandles on and get some air to the feet "

Wearing sandals in the summer where I live is asking for foot problems. The city is crowded and filthy. Sneakers and full shoes protect our feet. Function and safety first.

We don't wear shoes inside so feet get plenty of air.

I can absolutely be annoyed about, I just can't act on my annoyance.

What's the point in being annoyed though? What does it get you aside from adding a frustration to your life?

I have quite a high paid job in the STEM field. I have pink hair, tattoos and piercings. I dress in band t-shirts, jeans and hoodies, as do most of my colleagues. I represent the UK on worldwide technical committees and have never been questioned about my appearance.

So sorry to read about your Dad
My Dad had been a very smart man, he polished his shoes until the shone, pressed his shirt and trousers.
However, when he became older and has physical problems, he wore tracksuit bottoms. I remember a man looking him up and down in the hospital lift and sniggering to his companion. This was the day my mother had died.
I still regret not speaking to him and explaining how smart my Dad used to be and that age had made this impossible for him.

Your username explains it all.

To be fair the Queen was often required to dress in the sartorial version of a high viz for security reasons.

There’s a reason why lurid lime - no matter how elegantly the queen wore it - didn’t pick up as trend.

I think your username was a bit of a giveaway OP. We all know that the working classes don't wear tweed with their wellies!
It's fine if your DCs go to private school - your choice, lots of children go independent.
But the majority don't and won't turn up for sports day wearing tweed - with or without wellies! I think you're pretty judgy to assume people who don't 'dress up' are slobs. Some of us don't have the time, or money to buy lots of different outfits and many have such poor mental health that getting dressed into anything is a milestone.
Live and let live and don't judge. No-one knows what people have to deal with in their lives.

Plenty of people do. You're allowed to dress however you want. As ugly as the tweed and wellies combo might be to the rest of us, we'll all mind our own business about it. You should try it.

I think someone with more knowledge than me could pick absolute holes in class here.

Full of it.

Maybe wellies and tweed might do it?