Intelectual abuse should be a thing

[Missanimosity]

I am not sure how else to name it. I refer to cases like America's most hated family -I just rewatched the documentary and it still shocks me to the core that those children live in that environment. For those who don't know, they belong to a "church" that basically supports the idea that if not part of the said church you burn in hell. They take those kids to demonstrations like war veterans and soldiers funerals, pride parades, put the children on street corners with big signs "God hate fags" "you will burn in hell" etc. All they do is spread hate and they are proud of it. I really don't think that even if those kids leave the church they will never have a normal life. They expose those kids to this hate, one child was hit in the head with a bottle dduring one of those signs displays and the mother was crying boohoo how can they hurt a child. But she is the one getting the kids to hold those disgusting signs. Why are they not removed from the family? Why is this allowed? On the other hand, if this would be a thing, where do you cross the line, as thinking about it children living in overly religious families are also exposed and raised into some kind of doctrine or mentality? Just thinking about it, what is your opinion? This is not a post to shame any religion, everyone has the right to follow whatever and whoever they please don't turn this into a warzone, be respectful.

Uganda is the closest you get to a Christian county killing people for homosexual acts.

For the third time, the list I provided was every country where homosexuality is illegal. There are 29 Christian-majority countries which have anti gay laws.

I think you make some confusion between legality, homophoby, religion and you link those 3 with persecution and dangerous. I want to see where is anyone persecuted or possibly killed for being homosexual in a Christian country in these times. Give me a country, an example. Leave the legality aside.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-66645740

Thank you!

If you read the article though.it says aggravated homosexuality. and then goes on to explain what that is so it's not quite the same as being killed for just being gay

You can be as mad as a fish in USA yet tell enough lies and you can be a auccess. Have you seen the president? A criminal and a bully, a man who happily admits to - brags about- sexually assaulting women as and when he sees fit to do so. It's a criminals heartland if your skin is the right colour. It's also the home of wacky cults. You can go a long way claiming God's on your side. Awful and getting worse.

No, but where these laws support the criminalisation (is that a word?) of homosexuals I understand where there might be a danger of persecution. The killing thing I still am on the fence about it purely because I do not have much experience with Chriatians beyond Europe so I keep my mouth shut on this one, but I never seen or heard of it in my experience. This does not mean it doesen't happen.

They once sent a death threat to my son when he was 15, because he challenged them online. Vile people. It’s allowed in the USA in the same way paedophile pastors are an open secret, and POTUS is an enemy abusive felonious rapist.

Brianna Ghey wasn't murdered specifically for being trans or because either murderer was of a particular faith. One just wanted to murder/was/is obsessed with multiple people including Brianna and the other had it as part of his motivation, but would have also quite happily murdered any of the targets they had drawn up. Both were diagnosed with specific disorders - one with a severe conduct-dissocial disorder with limited pro-social emotions and the other autism.

That's different to the family based radicalisation you're talking about in your OP.

Horribly biased and unfortunately totally agree with it. Look at al these cults where people were influenced into comitting suicide by some madman who thought himself as Jesus. Is not the problem thay there is a "Jesus" but there were enough people to believe his shit. And so many others. A bit like sheep, need to be hearded, doesen't matter that is towards a cliff. I try not to express my opinion in politics as is a minefield Trump, who is the strongest man on earth is now spreading his influence like a plague. I wish Keir Starmer would have more backbone and not give his opinion or support in what he does, but hey ho, I don't think I have enough education to know how the wheels turn in their world.

Same. I voted YABU because of it. There nothing "intellectual" about a plain cult, which is what the West Borough Baptish Church is.

I also don't agree that people should be throwing things at people, especially not children, no matter how unhinged the parents are. Kids having things thrown at them is not the parents fault. I fault the parents for bringing their kids to these ridiculous protests. I does look like they were trying to use them as a human shield. But I still only blame the people throwing things for doing what they did. These are separate offenses perpetrated against children. One by bystanders and one by their parents in this situation.

No, Brianna case was an answer to another poster. I did not treated the two as the same.

It could be trumped up charges. I'm gobsmacked that people have never heard of people being persecuted in Christian countries for being gay. They didn't realise that Christians could be homophobic.

It doesen't matter the vote though, I did not know how to remove it. Is just an invitation to open discussion. I agree with your points.

Nobody said they are not homophobic though don't put it like that. But there is a difference between being homophobic and being killed for being gay, this is the point that was debated. Homophoby is eveywhere, the poster who mentioned culture is right. At the end of the day Bible says a lot if contradictory things, how you apply it and what you get out of it is up to you.

I agree with you OP. Not allowing your children a normal level of education, whether it is for religious purposes, or to keep people trapped within the family and their beliefs, (and women trapped, and unable to support themselves outside of marriage,) should be flagged as neglect and abuse.

You've never heard of gay bashing or corrective rape? Of people being assaulted soley because they're gay? Many gay people have been murdered by homophobes.

There should be some kind of comeback, I agree.

I haven't seen the programme you're talking about but I was in the city centre a few months back and there was a crowd gathering around what I assume was a family (dad, mum, boy of about 12 and girl maybe a bit younger. Dad was ranting on a microphone about abortion and how anyone who supported it was going to hell. Boy and girl both held signs saying 'would you murder me too?' or similar. Mum just stood back saying nothing

The crowd was getting wound up, a group of older teenage girls started chanting 'my body, my choice' and a similar aged teenage boy (not the same group as the girls) threw an egg at the dad (I was pretty proud of our young people that day!).

Then two policewomen turned up. I was sure they were going to either arrest the dad or at least ask them all to stop and move on. No. They took the girls aside and said if they continued chanting they'd arrest them for hate crime. Then told the boy that what he'd done was assault and to leave the area immediately or he's be arrested too.

I asked the police why they weren't doing anything about the antiabortionists and they basically said they didn't agree with the message but they weren't committing a crime. Wtf.

So after that lengthy essay yes, I agree with you!

Well it could be anything but we can only go off what the article says which is that aggravated homosexuality includes sex ( abuse) with children or vulnerable adults ,and forced sex,( rape) in the hope the victim contracts HIV
So it's very different from two consenting adults.

I am going to stop here as you don't seem to understand me. No, I haven't heard. I stated this in 3 previous posts. And I grew ip.in Christian country. Many gay people are being murdered, but you were talking about Christian countries. But that doesen't mean is not out there. That's why I don't contradict you either.
Edit: sorry I realised you weren't quoting me. My post still stands though.

That’s an interesting narrative you’ve taken.

I believe it also includes being found guilty on two occasions of homosexual acts. Or having homosexual sex with someone over 75 - because obviously older gay people don’t have sex.

It’s not just focused on abuse.

I was going off the article .

Ah, I hadn’t read the article. Apologies.

In that case it’s interesting that the BBC reported that limited view then…

That's not the point. The point is Uganda has draconian anti gay laws where you can be prosecuted for your sexual orientation.