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The US has bombed Fordow and other sites.

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/06/2025 01:19

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/22/israel-iran-war-live-trump-says-us-has-attacked-nuclear-sites-in-iran-including-fordow

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mrsrtobinson · 22/06/2025 07:26

Sofiewoo · 22/06/2025 07:24

And the US and Israel have both actually destroyed other countries with actions.

Which ones ??

Righteo · 22/06/2025 07:26

Sofiewoo · 22/06/2025 07:18

Israel and the US haven’t destroyed other countries?

Israel has levelled Gaza. Isn't that enough destruction for you?

savory · 22/06/2025 07:27

Sofiewoo · 22/06/2025 07:24

And the US and Israel have both actually destroyed other countries with actions.

Did they swear though !

mrsrtobinson · 22/06/2025 07:28

Righteo · 22/06/2025 07:26

Israel has levelled Gaza. Isn't that enough destruction for you?

Gaza isn't a country.

What other examples do you have?

DdraigGoch · 22/06/2025 07:28

WhiteMilk · 22/06/2025 02:08

What do you mean? What are they up to?

Dithering, mostly

heartsinvisiblefury · 22/06/2025 07:30

Well done Trump on raising the likelihood of attacks in the US and elsewhere - you don’t just need a nuclear weapon to cause destruction, you need angry people with suicide bombs. Trump today has created more angry people. Idiot.

Sofiewoo · 22/06/2025 07:31

@mrsrtobinson Gaza isn't a country.

Palestine is though and only a minority of people deny that.

Sherararara · 22/06/2025 07:31

user764329056 · 22/06/2025 01:24

And so it begins

Fordow not Mordor

rainingsnoring · 22/06/2025 07:33

Absolutely imbecilic. So much for the peace loving president.
We can only hope that this doesn't escalate as much as I fear it could.

Tiredofwhataboutery · 22/06/2025 07:33

TooBigForMyBoots · 22/06/2025 01:52

They weren't far off having a nuclear weapon?

Iran is/was way off having a nuclear weapon. If it was close the US and the nuclear watchdogs would have known, said and warned of it.

They were warning about it. The International Atomic Energy Agency warned in May that Iran was amassing uranium at 60%.

Sofiewoo · 22/06/2025 07:34

mrsrtobinson · 22/06/2025 07:26

Which ones ??

Afghanistan.
Iraq.

Is your memory incredibly short? We don’t have to go very far back to see evidence of the US chucking it’s willy around, destroying other counties and displacing civilians.

rainingsnoring · 22/06/2025 07:35

mrsrtobinson · 22/06/2025 07:28

Gaza isn't a country.

What other examples do you have?

Oh, I guess destroying Gaza is absolutely fine then.

Sofiewoo · 22/06/2025 07:35

savory · 22/06/2025 07:27

Did they swear though !

Maybe they pinkie promised?

Righteo · 22/06/2025 07:35

mrsrtobinson · 22/06/2025 07:28

Gaza isn't a country.

What other examples do you have?

Well Iran may shortly be added to the list if Israel, along with the US, decides to continues its actions if Iran doesn't capitulate enough. As I have said before, the Israeli government now has bloodlust and believes it can do anything it wants, so it will likely try and continue its illegal war with the help of the US.

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 07:37

Sofiewoo · 22/06/2025 07:24

And the US and Israel have both actually destroyed other countries with actions.

But we aren't talking about other countries are we? Again, let's stick to topic. We are talking about Iran. You can open another thread about other countries.

SnakesAndArrows · 22/06/2025 07:38

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 06:57

Right, so this is all just a distraction for benefit reforms? Now I understand.

No, that’s not what she said or meant. Her point was that this is a good time to bury bad news.

Governments (of all flavours) take the opportunity to do or announce unpopular things when the population - and more importantly the media - is looking the other way.

For those with reading comprehension difficulties, the PP thinks the government will welcome this distraction from national matters, not that this military action is intended to cause the distraction.

Rosscameasdoody · 22/06/2025 07:40

PoopingAllTheWay · 22/06/2025 02:15

And you think they have come together with Trump for this reason ? Surely you dont think that- 🤯😶‍🌫️

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No-one is saying they’ve conspired with Trump or anyone else, that would be ridiculous. But government uses major news as a cover to slip difficult or unpopular things in under the radar while the public is too caught up in events to notice.

On 9/11 a Labour aide called Jo Moore advised the government that ‘It is now a very good day to get out anything we want to bury.’ She was implying 9/11 was a good day to bury bad news while the public were too caught up in up in events to notice - in this case a change to local authority pensions. She later tried to use the day of Princess Margaret’s funeral in 2002, in the same way.

As recently as earlier this year the DWP very quietly published a series of damning disability benefits related reports at 4pm on Friday 2 May, on the eve of a bank holiday and on a day when the news was dominated by the results of the local elections held the day before.

rainingsnoring · 22/06/2025 07:41

SnakesAndArrows · 22/06/2025 07:38

No, that’s not what she said or meant. Her point was that this is a good time to bury bad news.

Governments (of all flavours) take the opportunity to do or announce unpopular things when the population - and more importantly the media - is looking the other way.

For those with reading comprehension difficulties, the PP thinks the government will welcome this distraction from national matters, not that this military action is intended to cause the distraction.

I agree.
The UK economy is clearly in a terrible state so this is just what the UK government want. Why is it that they seem to be able to find £££ for wars but not for their own citizens?
The whole situation is sickening.

Sofiewoo · 22/06/2025 07:43

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 07:37

But we aren't talking about other countries are we? Again, let's stick to topic. We are talking about Iran. You can open another thread about other countries.

We are, we are talking about the US and Israel invading Iran. How can you discuss this situation if you’re claiming no one is allowed to discuss 2 out of the 3 countries involved?
Your own comment was “They haven’t destroyed other countries” and now apparently no one was ever talking about the US or Israel.
Why are you denying your own posts?

SamPM · 22/06/2025 07:43

tava63 · 22/06/2025 02:49

I just can’t take this in, the U.S. have bombed three nuclear (NUCLEAR) sites. What will this do to people on the ground there? What will this mean for the world?

Many Iranians, especially women, are celebrating this. Do none of you know how oppressed they are? This could be a good thing for them. Take out the god awful current regime.

mrsrtobinson · 22/06/2025 07:43

Sofiewoo · 22/06/2025 07:31

@mrsrtobinson Gaza isn't a country.

Palestine is though and only a minority of people deny that.

Palestine is a country split in two halves.

The West Bank with Mahoud Abbas as a democratically elected president and
Gaza that elected a member of the Fatah Party in 2007.

Following that election in Gaza there was a brief Civil War when Hamas fighters took control of the Gaza Strip, while Fatah officials were either taken as prisoners, executed, or expelled.

There have been no elections since then and Gaza has been controlled by a terrorist group which is a proxy of Iran.

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 07:44

SnakesAndArrows · 22/06/2025 07:38

No, that’s not what she said or meant. Her point was that this is a good time to bury bad news.

Governments (of all flavours) take the opportunity to do or announce unpopular things when the population - and more importantly the media - is looking the other way.

For those with reading comprehension difficulties, the PP thinks the government will welcome this distraction from national matters, not that this military action is intended to cause the distraction.

National matters such as?

AnnaBalfour · 22/06/2025 07:44

It would be great if the innocent civilians in Iran had lovely super secure bunkers and a sophisticated alarm system for incoming attacks wouldn’t it…alas.

Trump, Netanyahu, Putin - what a disgusting bunch of angry old men with far too much power over the rest of the world.

9448djdi · 22/06/2025 07:45

OhCalmTheFuckDownBarbara · 22/06/2025 07:37

But we aren't talking about other countries are we? Again, let's stick to topic. We are talking about Iran. You can open another thread about other countries.

I think posters who stick to guidelines can choose to post whatever they like actually.You are most welcome to move to another thread if you don’t like it.

nomas · 22/06/2025 07:46

Lifesd · 22/06/2025 01:30

Good I hope the operation has been successful and irans nuclear capability has been destroyed. Iran is a threat to the west - I don’t think we should be involved in regime change (particularly after disastrous interventions in Lebanon and Syria but I support this action.

Can you stop salivating over this? It’s obscene.