Hell is a terraced house with a hot tub, bar and outdoor tv.

[SorbetSarnie]

Or more accurately, hell is what I'm going through living next door to this abominable set up.

Family from hell moved in not that long ago. Drunken pot smoking father who attended a house party in the mid 90's and apparently never left, a wife who to be fair seems like she's lost the will to live or smile, and an assortment of teenagers who like to invite all their mates round and shout about dildos and cumming in people's eyes.

The garden has slowly morphed into something resembling a butlins, which is fairly impressive as we all only have narrow postage stamp gardens. It started with a hot tub, progressed to an outdoor bar, and has culminated this weekend in some sort of wooden shack thing made of fences with a tin roof, housing an outdoor television.

The second the sun comes out it is thumping tunes ALL day, which to be fair sometimes gets turned down a little at 11 pm. Unfortunately tonight it has now been replaced by some shitty action movie being loudly played in the garden, as the family members converse in their usual dulcet yells. Must have affected their hearing with all that drum and bass.

Yes, we have tried talking to them. The father seemed to indicate through grunts that he had understood my attempt at communication with a primitive life form, however we were then treated to angle grinding in the street regularly for a few nights, as he loudly complained about the 'stuck up bitch next door' and proclaimed that I'd be 'having that'.

No, I currently can't move. I'm working on it but realistically not going to be any time soon. I'd imagine the house would be a hard sell at the moment too, most prospective owners would run a mile.

I guess I just wanted to rant, I'm so tired. I've actually found myself on the brink of tears a few times tonight, mainly from frustration. They went away last week and it was wonderful. The entire estate was practically silent, just the usual buzz of every day life going on made me really appreciate just what loud obnoxious bastards they are.

Massive sympathy from me OP. I live on an estate. People can be so inconsiderate. I’m afraid I don’t have anything to add to this thread in terms of advice but just wanted to let you know YADNBU

Complain to the Council (environmental health). Some councils act decisively, others are crap. If the latter, consult Sanctum Consultants (they have a website). They are not at all expensive and their advice will sort out this matter quickly. Worked for me. Do not put up with it.

And don't believe the usual posters on MN who claim noise nuisances only exist between 11 pm and 7 am. That's rubbish and not the full scope of the law. There is another law... Sanctum can help you.

In the end I had to take action rather than moving because like you, nobody sane would have considered buying our house when the Neighbours From Hell were in place. DM me if you need to.

So you think what OP's neighbours are doing is OK?

Or someone willing to reenact strangers on a train

'Large' female neighbour? What difference does someone's size make to their behaviour?

What you need is someone doing their music practice at your house in the early morning when your neighbours are sleeping. May I suggest kids with recorders or even better ,due to the volume, is bagpipes. It doesn't even need to be good. In fact if they keep having to repeat the same scales even better.

I feel for you, op. A lovely sunny day here yesterday was ruined by neighbours loud music and garden antics at 10pm. Just when things calmed down they lit the fire pit - right at the back of the house - which meant I had to close all the windows and sit suffocating in heat and fumes until they went in at midnight. This happens every sunny day.

I often find the first few weeks of summer to be the worst when everyone goes temporarily mad with summer activities. We get the music, BBQ, hot tub parties, fire pit, pressure washer, leaf blower, kids screaming and motorbikes revving all at once, but as the novelty wears off things settle down and by the end of the summer we're the only ones sitting out on a cool quiet evening. I hope things settle down for you.

No , it's not just the peasants from the council schemes who behave like this. I live in a nice estate and the class above the "peasants" (good jobs) also behave like this with their noise.

I keep thinking I should move to a town now I am getting older but I just can't face it. Buzzards by day, little owl by night is as bad as it gets here. It's threads like this that stop me from getting this place on the market.

OP I really feel for you. I moved out of a lovely house because the NDNs were loud and vile. I was lucky to get sold at the time and no-one has stayed more than two years. It's a social disease.

I will seriously consider this and may add some sort of thorny plant, I have already had the teenagers vaulting into and out of the garden to retrieve lost footballs.

Last night the neighbours ended up having a heated argument with someone else further down the street. Father of the year was promising he had no qualms about hitting an old man though thankfully it all went quiet around 2 am.

There is some hope that the rest of the neighbours are starting to rebel too. This morning there has been two sets of power tools going off from 7am and I've heard neighbours talking loudly who have been quiet for years! That is unusual, this estate is usually more of a 'say hello occasionally and then politely ignore the other exists.'

Their house is privately rented, but I'd have no idea how to find out who the landlord is as it's been a rental since we moved in 8 years ago.

And unfortunately I own this house.

Next time they start beating the crap out of each other leave them to it, things might quiten down with one of them dead and the other in prison.

Thank you @Freud2
You have my sympathies. It is indeed very difficult to adjust to noise when you've been used to peace and quiet. More so if you've enjoyed an amicable relationship with your old neighbours for years, as we had.

I hope the noise issue doesn't escalate for you.

This 🤯

That’s promising that they’re renting so hopefully you’re not stuck with them forever. Hang in there OP as I’m sure the other neighbours will be feeling the same as you and together you can have an impact. There must be some way you can find out who the landlord is and complain. Report to the council? This sounds so awful, why are some people so inconsiderate.

Not always true of course but often renters see the property as temporary so they might be less bothered on local opinion and HA tenants often think they are untouchable as it seems very very difficult to really act on antisocial behaviour. I’m assuming it’s around the laws of evicting people but if you think you are untouchable you are more inclined to do what the hell you like.

Sorry, but you are making some massive assumptions here and the snobbery is quite unpleasant.

The easiest people to deal with are social tenants who are in their home for life and care about it just as much as someone who 'owns'. The Housing Association has rules to follow and will intervene if informed.

They certainly don't think they are 'untouchable', how dare you.

Going against the grain, retaliating by doing loud stuff in the morning to get back at them won’t work and you’ll feel even more like crap by indulging in behaviour that’s not natural to you. It will consume you even more. To those saying that renters are transient and don’t have investment into the area, that’s just wrong as plenty renters do and want the same nice neighborhoods as you. Often they end up moving due to circumstances beyond their control.

Get talking to your neighbours OP. Sounds like everyone is sick of them.

Some good ideas from PP
Stinky comfrey tea
Universal remote to mess with the TV
A mosquito to repel the teens
Mozart to repel the adults
Thorny plants to block the view

You can probably implement most of those with plausible deniability.

How long have they been in the house? You may find that old to let ads are still on the Internet somewhere so it might be worth searching to see if you can find out who the letting agent/ landlord is.

Best of luck.

We planted trees along the boundary @SorbetSarnie Cherry, birch and cotoneaster and they've grown quite quickly!

We only found out after our neighbours from hell moved on, that the entire street had loathed them and tried to make them feel unwelcome. So yes, it's definitely worth mentioning to your other neighbours. The more support you have, the better.

Good luck!

If you can find out the letting agent, you can complain through them. Usually letting agents manage the property for a landlord.

Maybe she was stoned at the same houseparty she met him?

It being a rental is prob better news. I would be calling all the local estate agents to see if I could find out who manages it. Or possibly ask their advice as to how you could find out.

Unfortunately, I have a similar sort except it's younger kids screaming and shouting all day, the mum screaming and shouting all day, the dad shouting when he's in, music constantly as they have a roof over their hot tub now. Atleast when they have people around, they're nicer to the kids.

A neighbour complained about something once, so they gave their kids a microphone to shout up and down the street on, before having karaoke on the backs. Unfortunately they own the house so I have absolutely no idea if anything can be done. On the rare occasion they go away, the road is silent except bird song. I absolutely despise them, as do the rest.Terrace houses should come with a clause against antisocial behaviour, you can't escape invasive sounds at all.

If you're in Wales you can find the landlord or agent through Rent Smart as all rental properties have to registered by law (although I know some aren't). Or for £7 you can get a copy of the property deeds via the gov.uk website (land registry).
Good luck - I feel your pain having had many issues with our deeply unpleasant neighbour although at least they haven't a hot tub (yet!). God forbid they do.

Saw this in Aldi magazine for next week

ALDI UK - Week 26 Digital Leaflet - Page 20-21

So there might be many more people having outdoor TVs soon 😕

My neighbours once got fed up of another playing hitty music in the garden all day on loud and battled it with opera on full, second one with 00's disco😂
I did wonder if I could win it by joining and blasting central european brass band.

It worked. The offending neighbour got the hint