Hell is a terraced house with a hot tub, bar and outdoor tv.

[SorbetSarnie]

Or more accurately, hell is what I'm going through living next door to this abominable set up.

Family from hell moved in not that long ago. Drunken pot smoking father who attended a house party in the mid 90's and apparently never left, a wife who to be fair seems like she's lost the will to live or smile, and an assortment of teenagers who like to invite all their mates round and shout about dildos and cumming in people's eyes.

The garden has slowly morphed into something resembling a butlins, which is fairly impressive as we all only have narrow postage stamp gardens. It started with a hot tub, progressed to an outdoor bar, and has culminated this weekend in some sort of wooden shack thing made of fences with a tin roof, housing an outdoor television.

The second the sun comes out it is thumping tunes ALL day, which to be fair sometimes gets turned down a little at 11 pm. Unfortunately tonight it has now been replaced by some shitty action movie being loudly played in the garden, as the family members converse in their usual dulcet yells. Must have affected their hearing with all that drum and bass.

Yes, we have tried talking to them. The father seemed to indicate through grunts that he had understood my attempt at communication with a primitive life form, however we were then treated to angle grinding in the street regularly for a few nights, as he loudly complained about the 'stuck up bitch next door' and proclaimed that I'd be 'having that'.

No, I currently can't move. I'm working on it but realistically not going to be any time soon. I'd imagine the house would be a hard sell at the moment too, most prospective owners would run a mile.

I guess I just wanted to rant, I'm so tired. I've actually found myself on the brink of tears a few times tonight, mainly from frustration. They went away last week and it was wonderful. The entire estate was practically silent, just the usual buzz of every day life going on made me really appreciate just what loud obnoxious bastards they are.

I lived next door to this and it was hideous. My neighbour was a Katie Price wannabe with a bunch of loud mouth cocaine snorting friends. A husband that worked away to stay away from her madness and her father a man in his seventies would swing a hammer round in the street if a one dared to complain.

My DD and I had lived in a lovely quiet area before and she hated it. She hated the rude obnoxious kids her 15 year called me a whore. Lovely I know. We moved within a year.

People like this are thick as shit. Her garden was a full on play park they were big gardens and all her friends kids would be screaming while the mothers got pissed all day. Then they must have bundled them into beds in the house while they stayed up all night. Someone told me see went to rehab recently she definitely needed help more how she didn’t lose her kids i don’t know.

You have my sympathy. Never knowing when the noise will start is stressful.

Worst part of that is the outdoor tv. Everything else is a lot quieter.

The reason people assume antisocial neighbours might be renters or social housing is because usually when you own you don’t want to risk falling out with people, the police being called etc as you are meant to write that down on the forms when you sell and that might put people off buying. Also normally when you buy you are trying to assimilate into a community and put down some roots and again it’s nice to actually have some people around you that like you.

Not always true of course but often renters see the property as temporary so they might be less bothered on local opinion and HA tenants often think they are untouchable as it seems very very difficult to really act on antisocial behaviour. I’m assuming it’s around the laws of evicting people but if you think you are untouchable you are more inclined to do what the hell you like.

That’s the problem with complaining I started being harassed too. My car was keyed it was beyond intimidating. It was one of the most stressful things I have ever experienced. People like are animals with no respect. In the end I told her she was Norma Bates and her son was Norman that didnt go well for me but I just lost it.

I'm sorry you are going through this.

The flippant comments about making your own noise are really not helpful. Nobody knows what this is like unless they experience it themselves. It destroys your life.

After our lovely elderly neighbours died, we were subjected to 3 years of the hell you describe.
Hot tub against the shared wall, buzzing away, 24/7, right next to our conservatory. Music and flashing lights until all hours. Constant, drinking, smoking (and growing) weed. Footballs kicked against the fence for 9 hours a day, shrieking yelling, screaming inside and out. Rats swarming everywhere because they were nesting under the decking that the hot tub sat on.
We were subjected to abuse and they fatally poisoned our dog with rat bait.
I had a breakdown and we almost divorced after 25 years.
The council were not interested.

Eventually, the people moved on, and we now have quiet neighbours again. I appreciate every single day, because I know how easily it could change.

I hope the same will be true for you, that they won't be around for long, and that your home will again become your safe space. But right now, my heart goes out to you, because I know exactly how you feel and how emotionally draining it is to live alongside people like this.

That's s bit of a snobby remark. Not everyone from a council estate is a neanderthal!!!
Op I truly feel sorry for you and hope there us a legal way to can get them to shut the eff up.

Not everyone but some. At was at a friends mothers house at about 7.30 last night on a
council estate and her neighbours had a hot tob in the front garden all screaming and shouting then the lady of house got into an argument with quite another large female neighbour. I didn’t fancy her chances but my poor friemds
mother she is housebound and unwell the selfish, pathetic shits.

You have my sympathies, OP. My friend’s neighbours were like this, it really impacted her and meant she couldn’t invite us round and she loved hosting. Funnily, the night she decided “to hell with it” and had us over for wine in the kitchen, doors open to the garden and the heat, it was deathly silent. Literally, it turns out: they’d both died that evening, as was discovered the next day.

This isn’t helpful unless you’re good at murder, but it sounds like actual hell.

Oh I really feel for you loud neighbours are the worst! I don’t know what I’d do I’m trying to think but it def involves something petty like waking them all up really early by doing something but you don’t want to disturb your other neighbours so it’s super tricky to navigate

This happened to me! I’d complain about my neighbour because her tv and radio were blaring ALL day, I even did a MN thread…. She died the next day!

You have my sympathy, I had the most awful neighbours and it wrecked my mental health.

Unfortunately I found environmental health absolutely useless and it just made us feel more alone.

My advice would be to move soon as you can or if you have it in you fight fire with fire, but they might get worse by sounds of their mentality.

Just know if you complain to council or police you have to declare if you sell.

Op I feel for you. I had similar with constant weed smoking which stank and outdoor stereo, pool and bar. One day the guy shouted/swearing at me as my dog dared to bark and he was ill apparently. I lost my shit in a fairly polite way. Told him his dog was constantly barking (mine had been indoors all day until that moment) told him I’d had enough of his weed smoking and it stank and he was probably not able to comprehend the situation due to his weed smoking paranoia. The situation at first got worse but then the weed smoking and music stopped. No idea why. But I did report it to the police because he was threatening etc, not that they did anything. In your position I would try and move I guess it will be quieter once the sun goes in.

Report, report, and report again. You won't be the only one, and the more you do it the quicker the file against them builds up.

Hopefully they're renting and can be evicted?

We lived next to neighbours like this for a while (6am weed smoke through the windows was particularly delightful) but thankfully we were renting and knew it was only temporary.

Our neighbour now is an elderly woman who we often wonder if she's still alive as we never hear a peep. It's bliss.

I’m so sorry, it really takes its toll on you. The feeling when you finally get away will be magic. We had awful neighbours behind us in our old house. Ok in winter but in summer their bi fold doors were open and they were always in the garden screaming at each other, smacking their kids, playing loud music. Really scary people. When we moved into a place with quiet neighbours and that stress went away it was amazing!

I would try to see if they rent or it is council owned and keep a log of their behaviour to report. The council/ landlord might not do anything at first but if things escalate, you will have evidence that it has been a serious ongoing issue. If you are threatened at all, always report to the police and always try to communicate to them in writing so there is evidence you have done so.

Apparently you can also take legal action through the courts if it does escalate

https://www.gov.uk/how-to-resolve-neighbour-disputes

I agree, you are living in hell.

The only thing I can suggest, which hasn't been suggested already is to make comfrey tea right next to their fence, preferably near hot tub location... Stinks to high heaven (so won't be much fun for you but needs must) and is great for plants.

Ask neighbour on the other side to do the same.

Perhaps the smell will send them back inside.

@SorbetSarnie you have my deepest sympathies and it sounds like hell. However, be wary of reporting them if you own your own house as when you come to sell it you have to declare any disputes with the neighbours and your buyer may well pull out.

its a tough one 💐

OP. You have my full sympathy there can be nothing worse than more than noisy neighbours especially if you try to move as strictly speaking you have to make this clear on the legal moving documents!

I think the only hope that you have is their circumstances change and they have to move. There must be other neighbours in the area that must be suffering.

Good luck.

Are the in rented or do you own? Do they own or rent?
I had similar on a brand new estate once in the 2000s and spent 250k on a huge house next to affordable housing. I was told, and stupidly listened, that it would house working teachers and nurses as a step k to the property ladder !? It housed the people who could not live on council estates, had come out of prison, you get the picture.
to protect my mental health, I planned what I would do. I planned a move within a year (I sold at a great loss), I sold in winter and I never complained as I didn’t want to admit on the paperwork about any disputes. There were never any dispute tbh just a different way of life which affected me greatly and had me living on the edge of my nerves. Can you plan your actions so you know this is not forever?

Sounds like helll. Why do people have to behave like that?! Is there a local Facebook page? If so film them and upload it. What else can you do except keep reporting it to the council until they do something. Trouble is if you report it and want to sell your house, you will have to declare any neighbour disputes. No-one will buy your house with nightmare neighbours like that.

Hey OP. No real advice from me. I understand the not wanting to escalate and really you need to get away at whatever cost. Someone will buy, it just may not be at the price you want. However, I just wanted to reassure you that this too will pass. These people are a blip, they are not forever. At some point they will move or you will. It's hard to see it when you're going through hell but it will happen - you will have happiness and peace again in this home or another.

Jesus christ some of these stories are awful.
How can some people have such low standards for themselves and their kids

Me too. The minute it goes quiet put a really annoying CD on at full volume on repeat and go for a long walk or drive or check yourself into Bed and Breakfast for the night.

So sorry you're going through this. I've had awful neighbours too in the past and it's beyond stressful. Hopefully they'll default on the mortgage or rent and get chucked out. I hope so for your sake.