To miss the first lockdown?

[TidyOchreReader]

I know it was a tough time for many but I genuinely loved that first lockdown. I think about it all the time. There was something strangely blissful about slowing down, having fewer obligations and just focusing on connecting with people - even though we couldn’t physically see them. And when you did see someone, the gratitude was immense. AIBU to feel nostalgic for that time?

OP, I loved it too, except for the guilt of feeling so happy when others were really suffering.
I did realise at the time that if we got through it with no casualties in the family or our friends, that our experience would quite possibly be very rare, but my DS did lose his job and it has taken him a few years and a succession of absolutely awful jobs to find his feet in a job he loves now, so I suppose that would have been affected by by the Lockdown, too.
Having said that, I do wonder if the overall effect of those who had an awful time during the pandemic has overwhelmed the voices of those who didn’t - it’s natural to talk more about negative things that affect you, after all…

Shall I explain MN discursive forum to you? Someone post pov, I legitimately can and will dispute & contest it.
I can and will dispute this as tone deaf. I fully expect others to take issue with my posts.
You literally have no idea what my Covid experience was as I haven’t disclosed it. I don’t discuss my Covid experience with my family or friends I can only discuss it fully with those who were actively there. It was traumatic. I remain affected

And I've explained the basics as best I can.

I'm not questioning your intelligence, I was questioning your motivation, based on prior MN encounters with a similar style.

No offence intended.

@LlynTegid indeed. Lockdown could have been much shorter, and far less damaging. And I think the fear messaging was a very bad move. I think it was a big mistake for the government to say “we will do whatever it takes to beat the virus”. It made easing restrictions politically impossible. I think the govt would have liked to open schools in June, but the public hysteria (which the government had ENCOURAGED) made it politically impossible.

Again, you cannot dispute what other people experienced! You won't there! You cannot decide that they cannot possibly have had a good time.

You can pop up that you had a shit time
you can complain that, on the whole, more people were badly affected
You can say whatever you want

but you cannot tell them not to post, and you cannot decide that everybody must be traumatised or lying when they said it was a positive for them.

Do we say you are lying about being affected today? Of course not. Your experience is as valid as they are, no one is pretending you are making it up. It's irrelevant and the wrong place for this tread, but still.

Not directly.

But a culture where people quietly tolerated the restrictions or even as some did, wanted them to continue or be intensified did allow the conditions that hid abuse to continue for longer.

Pubs were opened up long before all children were expected in school. Not based on science, but because the government prioritised profit and civil unrest before education. Scientifically it was known that children were low risk by early summer and there could have been a choice to open schools up properly sooner. That would have improved the odds of intervening with abused children.

But while people of comfortable means were happy to keep children off, that enabled the government to create conditions that kept children off longer with no questions asked.

DS was newly diagnosed as autistic at the end of 2019. School's total contact with him from 23 March to early September was one phonecall. Anything could have happened and been long hidden away in that time.

Reread my post. Carefully. Stop erroneously paraphrasing to prove a point
Your emotive language is somewhat combative, I think you think it adds gravitas. In fact it makes you look lacking in basic comprehension.
I have literally not told anyone not to post. You are making that up
I have not (as you say ) decided that people, were actually traumatised or are lying ,again you’re making that

Your post is a confection, made up to support your pov

I don't miss all the restrictions and rules.
My dd has gone off with her friends swimming today and really enjoys her sports and clubs. I'd hate to go back to all that being banned.

I really miss being furloughed, I'd very happily go back to that.

@Zone2NorthLondon personally I would disengage as pp seems to be having a dig at you and you've not said anything that others have said.

But you cant live your life constantly analysing whether or not your life might in some very indirect way affect another person that you dont even know exists. If they opened up the schools earlier and one kid died from covid can you imagine what the reaction would have been. None of it is anything to do with OP.

read the thread again, and see what my comment is based on by yourself.

I won't waste my time arguing with you.

You’re incoherent at best. Maybe have a wee rest

@RichHolidayPoorHoliday

You can't challenge what someone experienced or felt. You don't get to disagree and say "no, you didn't have a good time, your memories are not correct".

I’m not challenging what the OP experienced or felt, I have not said that. I’m sure she is sincere in loving lockdowns.

I’m saying her position is vulgar and insensitive and adds nothing to a well trodden and extremely inflammatory discussion so I think she is being unhelpful in airing this again.

Wholeheartedly agree.

I did enjoy not having to rush around normal life, from school to clubs and activities etc.

And enjoyed being able to walk on golf courses.

The weather helped.

I do not miss the intense worry - I got covid just as we went into the first lockdown and I was worried at how ill I was and what could happen.

Or worrying about family and friends. My MIL steep and rapid decline into alzheimers and ultimately death was horrific to witness through facetime. And not being able to help until restrictions eased slightly was horrific for all.

I do not miss trying to work from home and home school two young children. The stress of performing badly for work and letting the kids down has taken a long time to ease off.

Also do not miss the divisions of online commentators of both "i haven't changed how I live, social distancing is a sham" and "i wash my shopping and judge anyone leaving their house".

Weather was nice for most of the first lockdown though.

Why does it need to add anything to a well trodden discussion? Why does she need to be helpful? She is simply wishing to discuss how she feels.

I don’t often admit this to anyone only dh knows but I struggled my whole Life due to ASD , phobias and OCD and the judgement that I got but during lockdown the world was perfect for me . Suddenly I wasn’t the only one wearing a mask and cleaning everything and not socialising !

but my point is that's it's MN.

Why would she need to be "helpful"? She wants to start a thread, and could have had a discussion with people sharing similar memories and interests.
Might be of no interest to anyone else, but that's the beauty of an internet forum, meet similar people who can be anywhere.

I find it annoying that a couple of posters have jumped in to try to either shut her up, or try to pretend she was looking at things with rose-tinted glasses and she was far from the truth.
Not the same as them coming to say they had a completely different experience.

I said, several times, that I personally found the lockdown was shit but I was very privilege. I don't deny the right of someone to post that they miss it.

We have posts about luxury holidays, expensive dresses and hair cut, weddings, and all sorts. All at a time when Palestine is being flattened and Israel blown apart - and so many other horrors happening in the world. Everything is insensitive and vulgar if you look at it that way.

I bet they didn’t talk fondly about the war within a couple of years of it ending. I get that war was unimaginably worse, but can you imagine them say

”Oh I wish we could go back to the days when the war was on and I got to xyz” to someone who had fought in it, had lost family or had their kids evacuated? Or who was working with the sick and injured, or separated from their partner who was fighting? It just wouldn’t have been done.

People would have kept it to themselves.

So. Let’s see your posts are presumably well observed & accurate Other people post are jumping in or trying to shut posters up
Funny that

I was like you - very ill with Covid early in the first lockdown. I was also frightened by how ill I was.

But the homeschooling and working was infinitely worse. Again, I also felt immense guilt about it for years, especially to the children but I also hated performing badly at work.

Edit - I also liked the golf courses bit though- that’s just come back to me! Maybe to run a golf course you should have to open it for the public to walk about a certain amount of the time - maybe that should be one of the things we take away!

I am not the one complaining that someone started a thread they don't like, instead of just ignoring it and moving on,

or telling people they are not allowed to have a positive experience, just because you are strangely bitter about something most of us have long moved on from! Life's too short.

But you do you.

Again you demonstrate poor comprehension. I’m participating as are others
So, your posts well observed . Other posts are complaining
Funny that

My grandmother always described the 2nd world war as the best time of her life. She was 19 and suddenly had freedom, a career, a uniform that made her popular and access to men. She didn't have any close friends or relatives at war, other than those she made. My other grandmother loved the place and relatives she was evacuated to so much that it's where she chose to spend the rest of her life.

Everyone's experience of things is different and there will be positive aspects to most things. I can't imagine those on the front lines of healthcare would ever look back nostalgically but I don't think that makes the rest of us bad for it.

I did not join in the clapping. I just did my best to avoid getting Covid, and unless I had it asymptomatically I did not catch it.