religion phobic

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is it acceptable to be religion phobic?

Not religious personally, i lump all moderate religions into a live and let live bucket. but the fundamentalist believers, be it westboro or hamas, i do find myself having a visceral and active dislike/distain for. and its mostly fundementalist islam that im aware due to the modern atrocities they have committed. is it bad to say im fundementalist islamaphobic for example?

This.

I'm an atheist.

But I don't have a problem with other people's religious beliefs as long as they keep them to themselves. I know people of various religions and we manage very well not to bring the subject up. (Obviously I don't like criminals and terrorists - but I don't count those people as religious).

There's a saying 'When people stop believing in God, they start believing in all sorts of crazy things'. So ask yourself: do you believe in say, horoscopes? Zodiac signs? Ghosts? Karma? Or any other 'supernatural' things? If so, you can't criticise religious people.

I've met people who claim to despise religions but believe that crystals have powers, or that karma is an actual force, or that astrology is true.

dont believe in supernatural, but I dont despise people who believe on moderate religions, like i said, live and let live. But there is one religion where the extremists (if intel sources are to be believed) are responsible for 70% of terrorist attacks. and the lesser extremists (if they can be called that) may not carry out terror attacks, but hold the most abhorrent views on women and children and actively commit crimes (or criminal in the UK at least) against those groups. and im finding myself less and less tolerant, or wanting to be tolerant of those. or maybe its less willing to not want to speak about it. im not sure. but there's already been a few insinuation on this thread that im islamaphobic for discussing it.

Am I religion phobic because I have zero time for organised religion of any hue, most of which are run by men and have a history or current practice of making women in their flock/congregation second class citizens? And worse.

I left the Catholic Church because of its treatment of women and the sexual abuse of children. No need to be phobic about it, just critically think it through. I have no respect either for those who continue to support any such religions that suppress women and do not respect their contribution to society.

Same could be said about any mass religion.

Mass groups of people have committed atrocities in the name of religion with it being perfectly legal.

Anyone who loves history can tell you that.

One thing that can get on my pip just as much as religious zealots, are militant atheists. They can be just as bad at shoving their beliefs down other peoples throats. It does really make them seem insecure and afraid of catching god.

How exactly?

That is very true historically but Islam currently presents the major threat.
Have there been mass atrocities carried out by Sikhs, Buddhists and Hindus in modern history?

How are they meant to know that? There are 2 billion Muslims in the world and they’re not all the same. You’ll get some that are fundamentalists and rigid, and you’ll get the ones who drink alcohol and are more relaxed.
There are issues of course but unless you research individual people and the path they were lead down, how is anyone meant to know?
You know just as well as everyone else that there are horrendous cases of mass killings, murders, abuse all over the world from every single background.

That’s not an explanation though is it?

maybe my question shouldve been is it islamaphobic to hate fundamentalist/extremists Islamics?

All faiths are abhorrent when in the hands of zealots. Detecting extremists is fine. Detecting an entire faith based on what its fanatics do is not. I know too many Muslims to think like OP and I don't believe everything in the media.

I am an atheist, but not a fanatical one.

And so does Christianity in a different way but no one complains about that in the same way.

Islam is also not a major threat in every country.

No belief system should be completely immune to scrutiny.

Some atheists come across as religionphobic. Those who mock believers, for example, or present them as idiots because of their belief.

Didn't mean to quote your OP, but oh well 😄

They are in every country they invade.
Can you tell me what atrocities are currently committed in the name of Christianity?

Christianity has a long history of doing the same and are you seriously ignoring the sh*t going on in the States right now?

I'm with you. There is enough science now that anyone who believes in the various sky fairies must know that hey are deluding themselves. Some much evil happens in the name of gods. At the least the state no longer burns people at the stake for not following the right version of a religion.

There may not be much Christian extremism carried out now, but you don't have to go far back to look at the crimes carried out due to beliefs.

The 800 baby bodies found at the former Catholic unmarried mother institution that were buried in a disused sewage tank?!?

Christianity has come a long way, and hopefully other religions which treat people badly if you do not fit with their rules will also change over time.

Because Catholics are far more tolerant now in their views, you are much less likely to get Catholic extremists. Hopefully Islam will one day be the same.

They’re all based on fairy tales.
Mocking Christianity is less likely to get you killed though.

The Catholics and Protestants have only just stopped murdering each other in Northern Ireland.

I dislike anyone / any belief system where people think their religion should bind others.

So feel free to practice your religion yourself but don’t try to force others to. Whether that’s a whole country, the world, or just your own family.

I understand what you’re trying to say, but I think the delivery needs some work before you raise this point in real life.

Extremism in all its religious guises is abhorrent.

Neither Christianity nor Islam are above reproach based on their historic actions. I don’t think any religion is, if you look hard enough.

If you consider the West as being Christian, then we have Afghanistan and Iraq recently, with deaths in the 900,000’s. They didn’t do this in name of Christianity of course but many atrocities perpetrated by those of a Muslim background weren’t doing it in the name of their religion either, although some were.

No culture/country/religion is untainted.