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Am I the c#%t??

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cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 20:44

Walking my cavapoo today in a big open and empty field. He trots along happily off the lead, if he comes across another dog he will go and give them a sniff and be on his way.

usually if I see another dog on a lead I will put him on a lead too. I didn’t see this woman soon enough as she appeared from behind a bush. Big gnarly dog on a lead XL bully type dog. My dogs starts trotting in her direction, she goes mental shouting “go away, this is a dangerous dog, get your fucking dig away” etc. I called Doggo over and put him on a lead, no drama. She is still mouthing off at me, to which I replied “all right calm down!” This set the mad woman off shouting that I’m a fucking idiot and her dog would rip mine to bits and I shouldn’t let him off the lead. To which I replied “you’re the one with the aggressive dog you can’t control, who is the real idiot here?” I then got called a butch and a c£&t!

Now is it me that is a c£&t? Or the person with a massive aggressive dog that was literally pulling her along??

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YaWeeFurryBastard · 18/06/2025 21:41

MyCyanReader · 18/06/2025 21:38

Why would anything be approaching it?

I have 2 dogs. They do NOT approach other dogs! Not unless I have checked its OK with the owner.

No one (people, dogs) should approach people's dogs without checking its OK first.

Aggressive dogs are not going to be aggressive if they're not provoked. Their owners therefore keep them on a lead.

Christ, have you been out in public recently? With the best will in the world it takes a split second for a child to approach a dog.

Quite obviously they “shouldn’t” but accidents happen and it doesn’t mean the child should be at risk of being savaged.

Tulipssndturkeys · 18/06/2025 21:41

Any known aggressive dog should be muzzled and on a lead in public.

Any dog off lead should not approach an on lead dog.A responsible owner would recall their dog the second you see an on lead dog and walk them to heal on / off lead to endure they don’t go any where near an on lead dog.

Named calling was horrible - but appears that both dog owners were at fault and neither were being fully responsible owners.

SuperTrooper14 · 18/06/2025 21:41

YaWeeFurryBastard · 18/06/2025 21:38

I honestly find some of the comments astounding, what if it was a small child who we all know can run up to dogs in a split second even with attentive parents. Cue the “my dog aggressive dog would never bite a child” comments. Well no, your dog has been shown to be aggressive so muzzle it in public, why take the risk? A child’s life is more important than your dog’s walking enjoyment and I say that as a committed dog owner.

It's down to the parents then. We always drummed it into our DD that you should NEVER run up to a dog in case it doesn't like it. We told her you approach slowly and always ask the owner first if it's okay to say hello.

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:41

MangoBlink · 18/06/2025 21:39

Your the problem I'm afraid. You openly say in your OP that yours will happily go and sniff another dog before going on it's way.
Who are you to decide that's okay?
Some dogs don't like it, some are reactive to strange dogs approaching them.
I have a Dax, he'd attack yours if he came for a friendly sniff because he's nervous through mistreatment from a previous owner. He's on his lead.
He's not a big scary aggressive XL type
I'd shout at you aswell to get your dog on the lead because mine is scared.
Your dog doesn't have the right of way because it's a friendly sniff.
Train your dog to walk on without approaching other dogs and be more aware of your surroundings

No. What I actually say is that i let him go up to dogs off lead. If I see a dog on a lead in the distance he will also be put on a lead.

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Daygloboo · 18/06/2025 21:42

Ok I don't own a dog and I dont know the rules but I thought from the dog programmes I've watched that everyone is supposed to have a well behaved , easy to control dog when out. Surely anyone who has to shout at other people to get away is completely one hundred percent out of order. When I read your post I started laughing. I imagined the XL bully woman being dragged on the ground round the field by her snarling dog while shouting "get out of my way, getaway" to everyone it dragged her past. And just for clarification, she's a c* , not you.

HelenCurlyBrown · 18/06/2025 21:42

She was the cunt. In fact I feel I’ve met this banshee woman myself.

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:42

Plantladylover · 18/06/2025 21:40

you shouldn't be walkign around in public with your dog off a lead which runs up to other dogs/people/children etc

do you not see that.

just cos you love little fido doesn't mean the rest of the world want him slobbering him over us

Jesus Christ, read the post!!

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WiddlinDiddlin · 18/06/2025 21:42

YaWeeFurryBastard · 18/06/2025 21:38

I honestly find some of the comments astounding, what if it was a small child who we all know can run up to dogs in a split second even with attentive parents. Cue the “my dog aggressive dog would never bite a child” comments. Well no, your dog has been shown to be aggressive so muzzle it in public, why take the risk? A child’s life is more important than your dog’s walking enjoyment and I say that as a committed dog owner.

Being aggressive looking or genuinely aggressive toward other dogs does not automatically equate to aggression towards humans, adult or child.

If the dog is aggressive to humans as well then yes, the dog should be muzzled - we have absolutely no idea if thats the case here.

So the 'what if it was a child' argument is spurious - it wasn't, and if it was the dog may well not be aggressive towards humans. They are capable of telling the difference.

Heartbreaksally · 18/06/2025 21:42

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:10

Yes I agree, it would have been my fault. However, should people be allowed to walk around in public with a massive aggressive dog that poses a risk to other dogs and maybe people?

No they shouldn't, but equally you shouldn't be walking around with your dog off lead. Doesn't matter if his recall is good if you are letting him approach other dogs and not actually calling him back unless asked.

TheOGBethDuttton · 18/06/2025 21:43

CorbyTrouserPress · 18/06/2025 21:40

If you can’t stop your dog approaching other dogs (or people) then you can’t control your dog either, no matter how gentle it is.

There's a difference between a dog sniffing and a dog ripping another to shreds.

DorothyStorm · 18/06/2025 21:43

JustMyView13 · 18/06/2025 21:10

You’re both right.
You’re both wrong.

I agree with this.

Plantladylover · 18/06/2025 21:43

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:15

What about kids? Should we keep them on a lead because some twat wants to keep a dangerous dog as a pet?

no but dog owners should keep their dogs on leads as parents don't want other twatty people's dogs annoying their kids.

whyy do you think different rules apply to you and your dog

Iwrotethelyricstoaxlf · 18/06/2025 21:43

AmberTurtles · 18/06/2025 21:40

I've worked with dogs for many years and I'd bet that your pup was attacked by cockapoos rather than cavapoos.

The most troublesome and unpredictable breed I've ever worked with and vet colleagues agree, are cockapoos. So much depends on the genetic ratio and unfortunately you don't know what mix you've got until it's too late. They can be aggressive little so and so's and very unpredictable.

they were curly haired things.

sadly our dog seems to have a face for biting.

I was speaking to someone the other day who said that the floppy bull type faces aren’t as expressive due to all the folds and other dogs find them hard to read and therefore find them to be ‘uncertain’ so the other dog goes on the definsive.

it was an interesting take.

SuperTrooper14 · 18/06/2025 21:43

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:40

Right then, to clear this up…

I said an xl bully type dog - as in a dog that looked like an xl bully but not completely sure on exact breed.

then someone mentioned xl bullies should be muzzled etc, I replied that I wasn’t sure that it actually was an xl bully.

I hope that helps you to understand.

Again, enough with the patronising.

If it wasn't an XL bully then the woman wasn't doing anything wrong. She had it on the lead and told you to back off. You were wrong letting your dog run up to it.

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:44

HelenCurlyBrown · 18/06/2025 21:42

She was the cunt. In fact I feel I’ve met this banshee woman myself.

Did she shout ‘cunt’ repeatedly, even when she was the other side of the field? She was a real gem this one

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zaicandy · 18/06/2025 21:44

TheOGBethDuttton · 18/06/2025 21:43

There's a difference between a dog sniffing and a dog ripping another to shreds.

The thing is though, you risk your dog getting hurt if you let it approach other dogs, even if it’s gentle. A dog can also turn with little warning.

AngryBookworm · 18/06/2025 21:44

Of course it's not ideal if your dog is going up to other dogs in public (though it sounds like it's not doing it to on-lead dogs, and dogs that would react aggressively to other dogs should obviously be on the lead). However, the other woman was clearly in the wrong here as it was her who set up a situation where tiny mistakes like you not seeing her could lead to trouble.

Humans and dogs are both imperfect - don't react instantly, sometimes delay coming back - if your dog truly can't be near a dog without attacking it, it should be muzzled in public and ideally not in public much at all. (Yes, that's a tough life for dog and owner. It's better than a dead child.) She was also wrong for getting aggressive (which won't be helpful to her dog's behaviour either). Hope you've been able to relax and recover from what sounds like a pretty unpleasant incident!

Gloriia · 18/06/2025 21:44

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:41

No. What I actually say is that i let him go up to dogs off lead. If I see a dog on a lead in the distance he will also be put on a lead.

But she appeared from behind a bush so in future only have it off lead when in an open space like a field or a beach as none of us can see round corners or through bushes. Try to be more responsible and understand many if not most dog owners don't want stranger's dogs approaching them.

MangoBlink · 18/06/2025 21:45

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:41

No. What I actually say is that i let him go up to dogs off lead. If I see a dog on a lead in the distance he will also be put on a lead.

Lead or no lead, your dog should be trained to walk on. It shouldn't be given free reign to approach other dogs and/or humans
But your responses indicate you think your right so good luck the next time your called a cunt 😂

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:45

SuperTrooper14 · 18/06/2025 21:43

Again, enough with the patronising.

If it wasn't an XL bully then the woman wasn't doing anything wrong. She had it on the lead and told you to back off. You were wrong letting your dog run up to it.

time to move along now I think

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xPenelopePitstop · 18/06/2025 21:45

She was unreasonable to use vile language towards you and to be aggressive.

You are unreasonable, and incredibly naive, to allow your dog to approach other dogs whilst it’s off lead. Please stop doing this. You need to recall your dog when it starts to approach others.

The woman in question, should have shouted over to you “Excuse me, my dog is aggressive and does not like other dogs. Please recall your dog”. However, some people aren’t rational or polite about a lot of things.

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:46

MangoBlink · 18/06/2025 21:45

Lead or no lead, your dog should be trained to walk on. It shouldn't be given free reign to approach other dogs and/or humans
But your responses indicate you think your right so good luck the next time your called a cunt 😂

I love it when people try to insult you but they can’t use basic grammar correctly

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JadedSoJaded · 18/06/2025 21:46

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:09

Maybe get a dog that isn’t aggressive and that you can control. Problem solved!

Maybe learn about dog behaviour? Some dogs are fear aggressive. Attack is the best form of defence, and all that.

SuperTrooper14 · 18/06/2025 21:46

cantthinkofausername26 · 18/06/2025 21:45

time to move along now I think

Are only people who agree with you allowed to comment now?

Iwrotethelyricstoaxlf · 18/06/2025 21:46

SuperTrooper14 · 18/06/2025 21:46

Are only people who agree with you allowed to comment now?

It would appear so