To think some teachers are getting away with all sorts with no way of challenging them??

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Mainly SLT! So today my ‘high needs’ son who the school tried to off roll had a head bump. On the way back from A and E I bumped into the Head getting her weekly shop in the supermarket. During school time. She didn’t seem stressed at all! Just getting her shopping in. V happy to interrogate my son as to why he wasn’t in school. Head and non teaching SENCO are always in the playground chatting every morning, yet can’t do any of my son’s paperwork without - at worst - an 8 months delay because they are ‘snowed under’.
I also work in a school where planning meetings, courses, computer based admin trumps : actually attending to the children’s needs.
AIBU??

Of course they are. I’ve worked under them. Mumsnet doesn’t want to hear it.

@JimmyGrimble

Both members of SLT are non teaching and have not provided lawful provision on many occasions and tried to off roll children.

Right. So why don't you extend your qualifications and apply for a post without bullying?

Tell you what, go and do your teaching degree, work in a school and then come back again and tell us how easy they have it.

If they are telling you they cannot meet your child's needs it is because they cannot meet his needs. Listen to them.

@Thewholebloodylot

Me too! And I’ve seen so many kind, empathetic, hard working, good teachers being bullied out of schools.

I think you're completely reasonable OP

She should set up a camp bed in her room, a portable toilet and live there 24/7. I dont like the idea of eating breaks either so she'll just have to sort of nibble things in between head teachering and writing reports.

Anything less is negligence in my view.

Do posters here honestly think that bullying isn’t rife in schools, and not amongst the kids either?

And who in that case do you think is doing it?

I find it perfectly acceptable that a head teacher can take a lunch break and pop to the shops on that break, should she need too.
They don’t need to be on site at all times, if there are other members of SLT around. My head may miss a day or an afternoon here and there due to attending a course, and the deputy is available. My head also goes on the three day y6 residential each year, leaving the deputy in charge.
And this is absolutely not a problem.

What are you hoping for out of this thread? You already have come to the conclusion she’s useless so don’t seem to have much to discuss.

@Ihatelittlefriendsusan
I have got a teaching degree, I’ve worked in schools for many years.

I’m not listening to the school, I’m listening to the Local Authority who have no doubt his needs can be met.
Perhaos you should read about OFSTED’s view on schools offrolling?

You don't exactly sound snowed under yourself, constantly hanging around in the shop.
How do you know she wasn't getting something for school?

The generalisation is horrendous! There will be bad headteachers but surely not the majority.

If teaching and SLT was such a well paid, easy ride then the shortages and retention issues wouldn’t be a concern.

Do you want to apply the same generalisation to SEN parents? Lazy, drank whilst you were pregnant, uneducated, bad parents who don’t know how to get the basics right of sleep, diet, screen time and discipline.

it’s not nice, is it? it’s not true either!!!

don’t turn your personal vendetta against a whole profession, most of whom are trying their best for little to no thanks.

That's what I assumed tbh, that's why I'm confused at so many posters saying it's fine.

Probably because the parents are a pain in the arse rather than issues with the children.

This. I'm amazed at thr amount of people who have never had a job where you can nip out to a shop. There's a supermarket 5 mins from my school if I haven't brought lunch I regularly pop in on my non contact time and if I need a loaf of bread for home I will pick it up too. It's not a crime 🤣

So OFSTED still give a bit or warning and most office jobs you can do what you want on your lunch break. In fact in every job you can do that. So maybe it was lunch hour?

Well, believe me, it's very unusual. Being a SL in any school is exceptionally demanding. You certainly have to put the hours in. This is a most peculiar thread.

Interesting question....

I bet she didn't dare ask. She just came to Mumsnet to snark about it instead.

Again, in my school the Head and Deputy both cover lunch times between 11 and 1.15, so they either have their own lunch break before or after. I’m sure you’d agree that people cannot be forced to stay onsite during their unpaid lunch break?

All the SLT I’ve worked with (even the not very good ones) have been incredibly hard working. I would never want to be a headteacher; it’s an extremely difficult and demanding job. Saying that of course there are teachers who are lazy and not good at their job but in my experience they are in the minority.
It sounds like your relationship with the school is near to breaking, OP, and when that happens there is not much that can be done to repair it. Have you considered changing schools?

Perhaps change the title of your thread, OP.
It's making the accusation against all teachers, not just SLT.

You must only work minimal hours if your only getting around £13000 a year then.

Do the LA work in the school? Are they there day in day out? No.

It is in their interest to say his needs can be met because then they don't have to do anything.

If you are a teacher as you claim you should already know that.

Blimey, your pay must be well below the Minimum wage then!