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To leave kids in bed whilst I run

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Wanttodobetter · 18/06/2025 07:24

I’m a single parent to 4 children, youngest 8 and eldest 14. I want to run for 30 mins locally early morning whilst they’re still asleep. 2 have phones and I’ll leave a number of a neighbour. That’s fine right?!

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BlokeHereInPeace · 18/06/2025 11:59

A great learning opportunity. The eldest can learn what s/he needs to do. Perhaps this is phone you if something worrying is happening, or leave the house if it's really serious. At 14 they should be able to judge that.

You'll minimise risk. Nothing in the tumble drier etc. Make a rule of no cooker, no kettle, no shower till you get back. Probably the biggest risk - still tiny tiny - is that you take a tumble and can't get back, but that's so unlikely.

Revisionispointless · 18/06/2025 12:01

Superscientist · 18/06/2025 11:36

This is actually a well known phenomenon the tone of fire/smoke alarm are not suitable for waking children and a frighteningly high number of children who die in fires are found in their beds.
A study in 2017 looking at children, I think mostly under 10, 80% of children didn't wake up to a smoke alarm. There were higher rates of children waking when there is an intermittent alarm or where in place of a tone the alarm as a voice

www.dsfire.gov.uk/safety/home/talk-your-children-about-fire-safety

This is what I was trying to get across and I’m quoting you mostly to increase the chance of more mums reading it !

Also a runner - always worked round the kids when they were too young to be left , and sometimes they came with me on their bikes or even running - they will probably be way faster than you - mine were

Gloriia · 18/06/2025 12:08

Mumble12 · 18/06/2025 11:55

When did you exercise? Because as a single parent, working full time, I genuinely have no time to do this when I'm not with my children in some capacity.

You exerice when they're up and able to react to a problem should one arise.
Sleeping kids left unattended is never a good plan.

Gloriia · 18/06/2025 12:09

Fundayout2025 · 18/06/2025 11:55

What about parents that are hard of hearing then? My kids always used to alert me to sounds I couldn't here when they were small. Electric meter beeping as running low, washing machine, knock on door

There's an array of devices for HOH or Deaf people.

Fundayout2025 · 18/06/2025 12:10

Gloriia · 18/06/2025 12:09

There's an array of devices for HOH or Deaf people.

Such as? Id be interested in seeing this

Iwillclasptheeagain · 18/06/2025 12:14

Btw I do think OP should be fine having her jog, but if it's causing her anxiety or if ExH might weaponise it, then exercising at home is a great option. There are loads of Caroline Girvan HIITS and dumbbell routines on youtube, and Heather Robertson, and and8 fitness, and JustDance... not saying OP has to use those, but they are a great option for a sweaty workout in your living room.

Mumble12 · 18/06/2025 12:26

Gloriia · 18/06/2025 12:08

You exerice when they're up and able to react to a problem should one arise.
Sleeping kids left unattended is never a good plan.

But you said you exercised and looked after your kids, if you're off running when they're awake, you aren't looking after them then either.

For me, the risks are smaller at 6am when they're asleep than at 6pm when they are awake and looking to keep themselves occupied.

All actions have risk, we have to choose the smallest risk based on the information we have.

HoppingPavlova · 18/06/2025 12:29

I’d wait until one was awake. If there was a fire, or emergency, are you confident the 14yo could wake up and organise the others appropriately?

Mine were all deep sleepers, so even as teens we made sure at least one was up before we left the house. As adults, if they are not up, tough, they have to ‘adult’ in an emergency and it’s on them. That’s different to saying ‘oh, well, be it on you’ when they are kids/tweens/teens though.

Wanttodobetter · 18/06/2025 12:34

BoredZelda · 18/06/2025 10:08

That changes it somewhat. If the ex-husband would use it against you, I wouldn’t do it. “But Mumsnet said” isn’t a great defence in front of a judge.

We’ve been separated for 3 years, divorced for 1. I really don’t think he could drag me in front of a judge for going on a 30 min run with a responsible 14 year old at home. But that said, if the general consensus was it is outrageous and shouldn’t be done, I’d probably rethink.

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Wanttodobetter · 18/06/2025 12:34

We’ve been separated for 3 years, divorced for 1. I really don’t think he could drag me in front of a judge for going on a 30 min run with a responsible 14 year old at home. But that said, if the general consensus was it is outrageous and shouldn’t be done, I’d probably rethink.

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Scalessayeek · 18/06/2025 12:40

We've considered this situation for when our children are a little older. We l have an Alexa in the kitchen and although they do not have phones yet they can both already use this to call us which is another thing I'd consider getting for the younger two.

zigazigaaaing · 18/06/2025 12:45

I think totally fine as long as eldest ok to keep an eye on 8 year old if they wake up

rosemarble · 18/06/2025 12:49

Revisionispointless · 18/06/2025 12:01

This is what I was trying to get across and I’m quoting you mostly to increase the chance of more mums reading it !

Also a runner - always worked round the kids when they were too young to be left , and sometimes they came with me on their bikes or even running - they will probably be way faster than you - mine were

This all seems to be based on a 2017 study. I'd like to think that alarm developers in conjunction with the fire service responded to the report and made smoke alarms a lower frequency.

Todayisaday · 18/06/2025 12:50

I think this is fine if you arent going running in woods alone, for example. Minimise the risk to yourself as well as them as even if tou fell and broke your ankle for example, you want to be where people are so someone can find you and you can get back to the kids easily.
Also, if thevkids are unlikely to fight or cause an issue. I have an 8 and 11 year old and they are in a wind up phase and I can't leave them alone together right now even in a room without some sort of war erupting.

Cherrytree86 · 18/06/2025 12:54

Mumble12 · 18/06/2025 12:26

But you said you exercised and looked after your kids, if you're off running when they're awake, you aren't looking after them then either.

For me, the risks are smaller at 6am when they're asleep than at 6pm when they are awake and looking to keep themselves occupied.

All actions have risk, we have to choose the smallest risk based on the information we have.

@Gloriia

i think it’s highly irresponsible of you to have exercised when your kids were up. What if they’d fallen down the stairs?? Or put the cooker on and started a fire? Or run the bath and floored the place?

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 18/06/2025 13:02

Make sure you take your phone... the most likely emergency will be you twisting an ankle or forgetting your keys.
Kids will be fine.

Gloriia · 18/06/2025 13:10

Wanttodobetter · 18/06/2025 12:34

We’ve been separated for 3 years, divorced for 1. I really don’t think he could drag me in front of a judge for going on a 30 min run with a responsible 14 year old at home. But that said, if the general consensus was it is outrageous and shouldn’t be done, I’d probably rethink.

Edited

It's not outrageous it just not safe. Do it when they're up and awake if you must.

Mumble12 · 18/06/2025 13:12

Gloriia · 18/06/2025 13:10

It's not outrageous it just not safe. Do it when they're up and awake if you must.

And you've still yet to address anyones concerns about leaving children who you deem to be incapable in some way, alone while they're up and about.

The only risk in life is not sleeping through a fire alarm.

Wanttodobetter · 18/06/2025 13:31

Gloriia · 18/06/2025 10:46

Exercise is great, we should all do it.

We don't need to wait until kids are 21, but an 8yr old is young. Yes yes I'm sure lots of posters at 14yrs olds were babysitting whole classrooms of toddlers but the fact is kids shouldn't be left, asleep while a parent naffs off out.

Arrange your life better op.

Yeah it’s not always that easy. I work full time, have no support network, kids have clubs after school, there isn’t a lot of free time. I run on the days I’m in the office already. But would like to do a bit more. And then I’d end up having to leave them all later in the day and I’m not sure that’s much better.

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PurpleThistle7 · 18/06/2025 13:37

Wanttodobetter · 18/06/2025 13:31

Yeah it’s not always that easy. I work full time, have no support network, kids have clubs after school, there isn’t a lot of free time. I run on the days I’m in the office already. But would like to do a bit more. And then I’d end up having to leave them all later in the day and I’m not sure that’s much better.

I think it’s great you want to do this. I really struggle to prioritise myself at all

Do you mean the alternative is going late at night?

Wanttodobetter · 18/06/2025 13:43

PurpleThistle7 · 18/06/2025 13:37

I think it’s great you want to do this. I really struggle to prioritise myself at all

Do you mean the alternative is going late at night?

Yes I guess so By the time work and school are finished, clubs, dinner, homework etc it’s going to be later. And then I’d normally be putting the 8 year old to bed, not going out! I’m normally knackered by then too and lose motivation!

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MrsSunshine2b · 18/06/2025 13:49

Gloriia · 18/06/2025 10:56

Hmm thing is kids tend to need an adult around. Inconvenient I know.

You can't just naff off and keave 4 kids asleep in a house. Well she can and she is but nope, it is neither safe nor ok.

How would we all feel if at school the teacher popped out for half an hour and left kids unattended. Bet there'd be lots of frothin folk on here.

Get a treadmill, do a Davina dvd.

Some of the things I wouldn't be happy with a teacher doing which I do all the time:

Letting my child out of school to pop to the shop or park
Bathing my child
Making medical decisions for my child
Buying my child clothes/toys
Making decisions about what my child should eat, or their bedtimes
Being alone in a room with my child
Being undressed around my child

If your 8-14 yos cannot cope with being left alone for 30 minutes, you've failed as a parent.

SuburbanSprawl · 18/06/2025 13:56

Depends on the fourteen-year-old, I think. And also being explicit to the younger ones that "K's in charge".

I was looking after younger siblings at that age. But then I was so sensible that it was a family joke.

Fifty years later, I'm still looking forward to some unspecified future time when I'll stop being so sensible.

TheSwarm · 18/06/2025 13:59

As long as op is contactable and some ground rules are set around reasonable behaviour, of course leaving a 14 year old and an 8 year old alone for 30 minutes is fine. At that sort of age a degree of independence should be encouraged.

Revisionispointless · 18/06/2025 14:05

if you are going to do it I wouldn’t do an out and back type run or even a circuit - I would pick a 1 mile route from the front door and do it 3 times - you could be back very quickly then if needed

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