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to find that ChatGPT is saving me tons of time at work?

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one2one2 · 16/06/2025 19:02

I have so much more work-life balance now thanks to ChatGPT that is making mincemeat of the mundane parts of the job. It will proof read, put together emails, produce critiques, minutes and actions points, analyse finances all in the matter of seconds and much more.

Work was done by 2pm so I had a lovely afternoon in the sun because all my tasks got completed so quickly.

And no, AI can't take over my job completely as it involves critical face to face interaction and other specialist skills which AI cannot do.

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Tadahhh · 17/06/2025 06:32

TunnocksOrDeath · 16/06/2025 21:21

Interns are supposed to do the fact-check donkey work and then have the conclusions and inferences they produce checked over by someone with more experience. They're not supposed to make up fake citations; that would be a sackable offence in most organisations.

Yes and you can ask the ‘intern’ to show its work. Rookie error as this problem is well
known.

I always check the ‘interns’ work.

Lonelydave · 17/06/2025 07:08

Seymourscat · 17/06/2025 05:46

This

And who eats avocados?

Swg · 17/06/2025 07:22

recipientofraspberries · 17/06/2025 00:40

I'm neurodivergent too (autistic, adhd, dyspraxic) and an existential issue I have with us using AI as a sort of accessibility aid in this particular way is that actually, are we just erasing, or at least reducing, our voices in the world? Great, we've got a tool that can put our own words into something palatable, but I mean we got by without it before, and the more ND people use it for this, the less our actual authentic voices are out there.

On the internet, in work correspondence, even socialising via messaging and social media posts, are all places I've seen ND people say they use AI to put their own imperfect words into some polished, 'acceptable' rewrite. I don't want a world of perfect, polished AI re-writes, I want to read peoples' actual words, idiosyncrasies and personal tone.

We managed without it before (with difficulty, believe me I know) but is it actually a win or an advance of ND acceptance/visibility to shove our words through a rewriting machine just so we sound a bit more neurotypical? It makes things easier in the moment but I just feel like we're going to lose peoples' unique voices in favour of generic AI summaries. It does not feel like a win for ND people.

I mean I haven’t coped before. That’s the problem. I’m happy for you if you have. But I’ve sat in front of consultants and come out in tears because I’ve sent them too much info and they’re still not understanding what I’ve tried to tell them and my choices here are use a human to interpret my voice by getting a proofreader or taking someone with me or using AI. And sometimes people are busy and the appointment is urgent and that’s not an option for me.

This is very much like the argument that deaf people shouldn’t wear hearing aids because they’ll lose their dead culture. It’s an accessibility aid. If you don’t want it feel free. But people who cope better with it should still get to use it.

TheLudditesWereRight · 17/06/2025 07:36

Lonelydave · 16/06/2025 23:40

nah that's not Hugo, that's a slightly pissed Maths Physics chap, who has to pass some english lit exam.

Apart from anything else, Victor Hugo wrote in French. Which I know because I have a human brain and cultural awareness.

one2one2 · 17/06/2025 07:39

GoBazGo · 16/06/2025 22:35

Let OP enjoy her time in the sun.
She’ll also really enjoy services she thought were being produced by humans with experience and qualifications. Things like medical diagnoses and legal documentation.
Hey it’s all good right 👍

😂

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one2one2 · 17/06/2025 07:40

BlushingBrightly · 16/06/2025 23:00

Yeah, sure you do. And even if you don't, your personal input is still so important that you won't be made redundant. Enjoy!

😂

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FlatErica · 17/06/2025 07:48

StandingOvation · 17/06/2025 01:38

Ok. A close reading reveals why it is almost certainly a machine-generated pastiche, not authentic Hugo. It’s not just the style, which is superficially convincing, but the structural, rhetorical, and thematic shallowness that gives it away.

First, look at the cadence and imagery: phrases like “the oppressive shadow of the cathedral’s spire”, “time itself seemed to kneel in reverence”, and “the breath of destiny” are all evocative, but they operate at the level of mood, not meaning. They gesture toward gravitas without developing tension or insight. Hugo’s prose, even at its most florid, is grounded in moral argument and political urgency. Here, we get aestheticised melancholy without purpose — a cathedral of mood, empty of substance.

The passage relies on syntactic inflation to simulate profundity: “the heavens, draped in a mourning gray”, “each soul a cathedral unto itself, crumbling and divine”. This kind of metaphor-stacking feels excessive and unfocused, almost algorithmically so. Hugo used layered imagery, but with moral clarity and rhetorical drive. He doesn’t just show suffering; he indicts the systems that produce it. This passage instead romanticises the image of a child in the gutter (“with the dignity of a prince and the despair of a martyr”) without anchoring it in political or ethical consequence. It’s not really Hugo.

The final sentence: “humanity trembling between the sublime and the abject, each soul a cathedral unto itself”, is especially revealing. It sounds profound, but it’s vague to the point of vacuity. Hugo may have used spiritual metaphor, but he never confused human suffering with poetic abstraction. In Les Mis, for instance, every downtrodden figure is embedded in a network of causality: poverty, injustice, and failed institutions. The soul is not just “crumbling and divine”, it is acted upon by society and history.

This passage reads like a statistical average of Hugo’s themes and tone. Religion, suffering, grandeur, ruin, filtered through a language model trained to reproduce his surface patterning without interior necessity. It is ornate but hollow, mournful without conviction, aestheticised without political weight.

So, it is an AI copy because it performs the texture of Hugo’s prose without enacting its force. It has sentiment without substance, metaphor without movement, and elegance without ethical urgency.

I’m giving you a standing ovation for this!

MoominUnderWater · 17/06/2025 07:56

GoBazGo · 16/06/2025 22:35

Let OP enjoy her time in the sun.
She’ll also really enjoy services she thought were being produced by humans with experience and qualifications. Things like medical diagnoses and legal documentation.
Hey it’s all good right 👍

I already find it better than actual doctors for correct diagnosis 🤷🏻‍♀️. Dh’s gp was baffled for months about what was wrong with him, ChatGPT got the correct diagnosis in 5 seconds 😆

Bowies · 17/06/2025 07:58

StandingOvation · 17/06/2025 01:38

Ok. A close reading reveals why it is almost certainly a machine-generated pastiche, not authentic Hugo. It’s not just the style, which is superficially convincing, but the structural, rhetorical, and thematic shallowness that gives it away.

First, look at the cadence and imagery: phrases like “the oppressive shadow of the cathedral’s spire”, “time itself seemed to kneel in reverence”, and “the breath of destiny” are all evocative, but they operate at the level of mood, not meaning. They gesture toward gravitas without developing tension or insight. Hugo’s prose, even at its most florid, is grounded in moral argument and political urgency. Here, we get aestheticised melancholy without purpose — a cathedral of mood, empty of substance.

The passage relies on syntactic inflation to simulate profundity: “the heavens, draped in a mourning gray”, “each soul a cathedral unto itself, crumbling and divine”. This kind of metaphor-stacking feels excessive and unfocused, almost algorithmically so. Hugo used layered imagery, but with moral clarity and rhetorical drive. He doesn’t just show suffering; he indicts the systems that produce it. This passage instead romanticises the image of a child in the gutter (“with the dignity of a prince and the despair of a martyr”) without anchoring it in political or ethical consequence. It’s not really Hugo.

The final sentence: “humanity trembling between the sublime and the abject, each soul a cathedral unto itself”, is especially revealing. It sounds profound, but it’s vague to the point of vacuity. Hugo may have used spiritual metaphor, but he never confused human suffering with poetic abstraction. In Les Mis, for instance, every downtrodden figure is embedded in a network of causality: poverty, injustice, and failed institutions. The soul is not just “crumbling and divine”, it is acted upon by society and history.

This passage reads like a statistical average of Hugo’s themes and tone. Religion, suffering, grandeur, ruin, filtered through a language model trained to reproduce his surface patterning without interior necessity. It is ornate but hollow, mournful without conviction, aestheticised without political weight.

So, it is an AI copy because it performs the texture of Hugo’s prose without enacting its force. It has sentiment without substance, metaphor without movement, and elegance without ethical urgency.

I was just going say it’s drivel and Victor would be turning in his (AI generated atmospheric) grave

needmorecoffee7 · 17/06/2025 08:03

I also find it extremely useful for emails

one2one2 · 17/06/2025 08:08

MrsMurphyIWish · 17/06/2025 06:27

I agree with posters who say you should be wary about keeping your gained time and it won’t be used elsewhere or even used to make employees redundant.

I teach and for the last two years we have used AI to write reports (as a high school teacher this saved so much time!). However, the Head didn’t like the robotic style of tone (maybe parents complained) so instead of one parents evening and a report per class, next academic year we are having two parents evenings per class. For me (teacher with no responsibility so full teaching load) that will mean conducting 14 parents evenings. What with concerts, open evenings etc I think I’m going to feel I live at school next year!

I just tell it not to do a robotic style then I made the odd couple of changes and I saved hours.

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Seymourscat · 17/06/2025 08:13

Lonelydave · 17/06/2025 07:08

And who eats avocados?

Not me but your response is a classic one of whataboutery.

we’re on a path of climate destruction. Yes avocado farming is a problem. Yes AI is a big problem.

we fucked the world over in 200 years.

PurpleAxe · 17/06/2025 08:19

Nowimhereandimlost · 16/06/2025 20:38

I for one welcome our new robot overlords

Me too, it is going to happen anyway.

I am just going to assimilate. Fuck it.

Lonelydave · 17/06/2025 08:21

Seymourscat · 17/06/2025 08:13

Not me but your response is a classic one of whataboutery.

we’re on a path of climate destruction. Yes avocado farming is a problem. Yes AI is a big problem.

we fucked the world over in 200 years.

It's not a whataboutery, its a bit more. Eating an avocado for breakfast isn't going to increase the greater good of society, huge data farms could, and if there were more forward thinking people then the data farms would be underwater (there are plans and some, I think are already doing this).
I was using the avocado not as a whatabotery, but as a example of a nonsense which could actually be stopped, we don't grow them here, we have to import them, so a huge waste of resources so that some woke nonsense chap with a silly haircut and a beard can they waffle on about how bad the world is.

We live on an island, so sustainable power, isn't about wind, or solar, it's waves/tide - happens twice a day every day (apart from a few where you only get one tide a day, but the waves are there) - using the power of the data centres to model this and actually see what we could do...

Don't be all doom and gloom.

cheesycheesy · 17/06/2025 08:58

Well if you’re part time now get ready for your bosses to realise and cut you to part time pay/hours.

TheLudditesWereRight · 17/06/2025 09:05

Capitalism is so going to eat OP's face

LizzieSiddal · 17/06/2025 09:07

one2one2 · 16/06/2025 21:22

I was finishing work early even before AI came along 😂

In your opening post you implied AI had alllowed you to finish work at 2. So you were exaggerating its effectiveness?

Maia77 · 17/06/2025 09:10

Anothernamechange23gfdd · 17/06/2025 02:19

I have had some very strange experiences with it. Once I asked it to recommend colour combos from farrow and ball. Using a closed model which could not access the internet past a certain date. It recognised and recommended colour combos from their newly released range. Referenced the full and often strange names and also a description of the colour. It was on the internet. I asked how it could know that as it didn’t have access to that information. It said yes I was right. It couldn’t have known that and hadn’t written that. I copy pasted where it said it. And it just kept arguing with me that it hadn’t and it possibly couldn’t and that these colours did not exist in its database. I do think it could have potential to be quite dangerous tbh. How I don’t know. We are talking about paint colours here. But it was unsettling to be lied to by a computer covering up for their programming lies.

I've found it quite argumentative, compared to ChatGPT, who aims to please :).

VeryQuaintIrene · 17/06/2025 09:12

ThisTicklishFatball · 16/06/2025 20:58

While it's understandable that employers expect employees to work a full day, productivity should not be conflated with hours spent. If an employee uses ChatGPT to streamline or automate parts of their job—thereby completing high-quality work more efficiently—it reflects innovation and adaptability, not laziness or dishonesty.
In fact, many industries are embracing AI tools to increase efficiency. If someone uses ChatGPT to finish tasks faster, they can redirect that saved time toward other responsibilities, professional development, or creative problem-solving. Rather than being a liability, such an employee could be seen as a valuable asset who leverages technology to maximize impact.
The core issue shouldn’t be whether every minute is filled, but whether the work gets done well, consistently, and with value added. As long as performance remains strong, employers might do better to rethink rigid time-based expectations in favor of outcome-based evaluation.

Your optimism and lack of cynicism about the good nature of employers is a delight.

Hiddenmnetter · 17/06/2025 09:24

Have a conversation with ChatGPT about its own understanding. Ask why it gets really basic things wrong and presents things that are obviously wrong as though it is certain they are right. Ask it why it is “sure” of anything.

its really very illuminating.

one2one2 · 17/06/2025 09:26

TheLudditesWereRight · 17/06/2025 09:05

Capitalism is so going to eat OP's face

😂

and yours 😂

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one2one2 · 17/06/2025 09:28

LizzieSiddal · 17/06/2025 09:07

In your opening post you implied AI had alllowed you to finish work at 2. So you were exaggerating its effectiveness?

I was setting my own systems to speed things now I don't have to because AI does it

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Mirabai · 17/06/2025 09:28

StandingOvation · 17/06/2025 01:38

Ok. A close reading reveals why it is almost certainly a machine-generated pastiche, not authentic Hugo. It’s not just the style, which is superficially convincing, but the structural, rhetorical, and thematic shallowness that gives it away.

First, look at the cadence and imagery: phrases like “the oppressive shadow of the cathedral’s spire”, “time itself seemed to kneel in reverence”, and “the breath of destiny” are all evocative, but they operate at the level of mood, not meaning. They gesture toward gravitas without developing tension or insight. Hugo’s prose, even at its most florid, is grounded in moral argument and political urgency. Here, we get aestheticised melancholy without purpose — a cathedral of mood, empty of substance.

The passage relies on syntactic inflation to simulate profundity: “the heavens, draped in a mourning gray”, “each soul a cathedral unto itself, crumbling and divine”. This kind of metaphor-stacking feels excessive and unfocused, almost algorithmically so. Hugo used layered imagery, but with moral clarity and rhetorical drive. He doesn’t just show suffering; he indicts the systems that produce it. This passage instead romanticises the image of a child in the gutter (“with the dignity of a prince and the despair of a martyr”) without anchoring it in political or ethical consequence. It’s not really Hugo.

The final sentence: “humanity trembling between the sublime and the abject, each soul a cathedral unto itself”, is especially revealing. It sounds profound, but it’s vague to the point of vacuity. Hugo may have used spiritual metaphor, but he never confused human suffering with poetic abstraction. In Les Mis, for instance, every downtrodden figure is embedded in a network of causality: poverty, injustice, and failed institutions. The soul is not just “crumbling and divine”, it is acted upon by society and history.

This passage reads like a statistical average of Hugo’s themes and tone. Religion, suffering, grandeur, ruin, filtered through a language model trained to reproduce his surface patterning without interior necessity. It is ornate but hollow, mournful without conviction, aestheticised without political weight.

So, it is an AI copy because it performs the texture of Hugo’s prose without enacting its force. It has sentiment without substance, metaphor without movement, and elegance without ethical urgency.

The giveaway that this analysis is AI is the first sentence: close reading is not required to determine the para is not Hugo. Nor is the style even “superficially convincing”. And a human could determine certain pastiche where a machine can only be “almost” certain.

Here’s ChatGPT’s critique of its own pastiche:

This AI-generated pastiche of Victor Hugo clearly aims for the lofty, Romantic tone associated with Hugo’s style, but it falls into several pitfalls that make it more parody than homage. Here’s a critical breakdown:

1. Overwrought and Self-Conscious Language

Hugo could be grandiloquent, yes—but this passage crosses into purple prose. Phrases like “where time itself seemed to kneel in reverence” and “the breath of destiny” strain for poetic weight but feel unearned or hollow. The language draws attention to itself in a way that distracts from the scene it attempts to evoke.

Hugo’s florid style was grounded in moral urgency or political resonance. Here, it feels ornamental for its own sake.

2. Thematic Obviousness and Overcompression

The pastiche crams too much symbolism and moral contrast into a small space: “the cathedral’s spire,” “cobblestones,” “mourning gray,” “tattered child,” “dignity of a prince,” “despair of a martyr.” The juxtaposition of wealth and poverty, grandeur and ruin, is almost cartoonishly stark.

Hugo had a similar moral vision, but he allowed these contrasts to unfold in narrative and character—not as a single, overwrought snapshot.

3. Sentimentality Without Character

The “tattered child” is pure cliché, evoking emotion mechanically rather than organically. Hugo often used individual suffering as a symbol of systemic injustice, but he rooted it in specific, psychologically complex characters like Cosette, Jean Valjean, or Gavroche.

This pastiche reduces human suffering to an image, lacking Hugo’s deeper psychological or political context.

4. Philosophical Pretension Without Depth

“Each soul a cathedral unto itself, crumbling and divine.” This final line aspires to a kind of metaphysical insight but ends up sounding like a mystical platitude. Hugo did often draw analogies between the material and the spiritual—but he did so with greater intellectual scaffolding.

The line gestures toward profundity but feels vague and inflated.

Conclusion

This passage mimics the surface-level aesthetics of Victor Hugo—his lyricism, moral concern, and Romantic grandeur—but misses the internal coherence, narrative momentum, and intellectual substance that made his prose so resonant. It’s like a wax statue of Hugo’s style: eerily familiar but ultimately hollow.

heartsinvisiblefury · 17/06/2025 09:29

Gnarab24 · 16/06/2025 19:27

I’m growing increasing suspicious of all the ‘ain’t AI just the cats pyjamas’ posts on MN.

Same

recipientofraspberries · 17/06/2025 09:30

Swg · 17/06/2025 07:22

I mean I haven’t coped before. That’s the problem. I’m happy for you if you have. But I’ve sat in front of consultants and come out in tears because I’ve sent them too much info and they’re still not understanding what I’ve tried to tell them and my choices here are use a human to interpret my voice by getting a proofreader or taking someone with me or using AI. And sometimes people are busy and the appointment is urgent and that’s not an option for me.

This is very much like the argument that deaf people shouldn’t wear hearing aids because they’ll lose their dead culture. It’s an accessibility aid. If you don’t want it feel free. But people who cope better with it should still get to use it.

I mean I have also sat in front of consultants in tears, I've had these exact struggles because of my disabilities, like you. Don't assume I don't have significant or equal struggles just because I have a different opinion to you. I still hold the opinion that even though it helps in the moment, which is no small thing, ultimately it's contributing to homogenising our voices. Society treats us (disabled people of all types) like shit, and then offers us a solution of 'here, make yourself sound like a neurotypical'. I think it's just part of ableism, that we're sold a shitty mechanism that makes everyone sound the same.

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