Naked bike ride

[Chocbuttonsandredwine]

Was in London yesterday: naked bike ride. Fine.. not my thing (or many other women). They finished the ride/protest/whatvever and then conjugated near B palace.. and just seemed to be happy wafting their micro penis’s about for kicks and giggles/

A lot of horrid middle aged naked men kicking about just felt unnecessary.

and 🤮

My point is we can’t know.

I’ve been to nudist beaches - I just don’t want tan lines

@Screamingabdabz

This ‘bike ride’ nonsense is just an excuse for people who should know better to get their kicks in Central London and it just encourages unsavoury behaviour.

You know that for a fact do you? And was there any actual unsavoury behaviour generated by this protest?

I would arrest the lot of them and ban the event for good - very Citizen Smith "Come the revolution, you'll be first against the wall bop-bop-bop!" 😅

The Law can’t say if or when people intend to cause alarm or distress. Only people can determine that.

The Law relies on Evidence and Burden of Proof, from Beyond Reasonable Doubt to the Balance of Probabilities.

Even if you rely on the Balance of Probability that any or all of the naked cyclists intended to cause alarm or distress I think you’ll have a hard time getting to Court, let alone winning.

How do you think a person can determine, to the standard required, if any of the naked cyclists intended to cause alarm or distress ?

No, but there is no evidence of intent or (genuine) distress only, apparently, what is in your mind

These are probably perverts with fetishes who like to get their rocks off by doing this. Need to watch out for paedos especially, taking advantage of these ‘events’

Thought Police. I swear some MN members think they must be a real thing.

Do you have special ‘paedo’ radar to sniff them out ?

Yeah

I‘m saying the law is inadequate.

Where and Why ?

Who or What is the law failing ?

The police clear these events. And the date and route gets publicised in advance so people who are worried about clutching their pearls so hard that they grind them into powder, can make sure they are elsewhere on that day.

How have you decided this?

it’s a pre advertised event, that people can choose to avoid.

I think they believe we’re living in Minority Report.

It seems to be an alien concept to some here but we have a social contract which involves ‘common decency’. This is:

‘the basic level of polite, respectful, and morally acceptable behaviour that is expected in social interactions. It encompasses actions and attitudes that show consideration for others, upholding principles of fairness, empathy, and propriety.’

I would suggest that consideration for others and propriety would not involve travelling busy public streets naked. I feel very sad for the sexual assault/CSA survivors and other women and children who really don’t want to see penises when going about their daily business who don’t seem to count at all in the minds of those who promote ‘men’s rights’ over all else.

We all have the ability to look away, turn away, and mostly we can go somewhere else

your ‘solution’ is ridiculous as in order to know what to ‘turn away’ from, we have already seen the offending penis. Interesting that you prioritise men’s wishes to be naked so highly that you suggest we have to reroute our day so they can indulge themselves. .

I don't even think they are perverts. I just want to understand why people want to be naked infront of anyone apart from their lovers.

Their parts are are for toilet or sex. Why the fuck do we need to get them out?

I said earlier I was greeted by my DH's naked body when I got in from work which was lovely.

People and children who very reasonably don’t want to flashmobbed by hundreds of naked people on bicycles.

I must have missed where this Naked Charity Bike Ride was exclusive to men only...

But do carry on twisting my words to suit your narrative.

Long story short, we don't have a right not to see things that we might not like.

Because 1 is a man going about his daily business and 1 is a man specifically targeting the eye to his penis

It's like the difference between a man touching a child's shoulder to direct them and a man touching a child inappropriately....

“We all have the ability to look away, turn away, and mostly we can go somewhere else”

Or… how about people just don’t get naked in public?

Why should I pretend I haven’t seen what’s in front of me, or go somewhere else just so a bunch of people can be naked in public for no good reason - whether the reason is thinking they’re making a political statement about traffic safety, or creating wank fodder by shocking small children?

but BundleBoogie presumably thinks I have a hidden agenda.

I was just going by what you said.

They have a right to go about their lawful lives without clothes on. Our laws state this.

It is not a ‘right’ to go around naked. It is lawful in some circumstances but it violates the social contract of common decency. If men like this insist on abusing the privilege then I think we should amend the law to enforce greater consideration to others.

Do you have any regard for the feelings of the SA survivors on this thread who find public male nudity distressing?

Then don’t go where they’re happening. I’ve managed never to see one.

I’m not pro anything apart from people being to do perfectly legal things. Surely it’s only unhygienic if you touch them, in which case you’d be committing an offence.

We should start presuming people are committing crimes without evidence?

Geez some of you really are worrying