Watching Trooping of the Colour - AIBU to feel proud or is it an anachronistic, expensive waste of money?

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Been watching Trooping of the Colour. I just love the bands, the precision of the marching, the horses - all of it TBH. We do it better than anyone else IMO. Also good for tourism as many tourists come to the UK for the pageantry, palaces etc.

AIBU to feel proud?

Or is it an anachronistic, expensive waste of money?

I don’t get it, though I’ve never watched it. I don’t actually know what it means to troop the colour or what any of those things are. I’d also really like to get rid of the royal family.

What's the colour in trooping the colour- the flags? I'm assuming it's not Catherines dress even though the papers are obsessed by it.

The regimental banners.

Security must be a nightmare with the Royal family all riding in open carriages.
All it would need would be a sniper on a distant roof
(@MyDelma there’s another option for you, though it didn’t end too well for the Jackal)

But no monarchy. It’s not the parade I object to in particular, although shows of military might do make me a little queasy. It’s the concept of monarchy I want to get rid of.

I realise that.

My point was that republics as well as monarchies do military parades, with varying degrees of up-to-date-ness with regards to the military display.

Russia managed a Second World War era tank the first (I think?) May Day parade after invading Ukraine...

So I don't think Trooping the Colour is much of an argument for or against a monarchy.

this whole show is embarrassing. nothing else.

I feel proud of our heritage and think it is lovely. I know people will go on about the cost and food banks etc. But isn’t it a boost to watch a pageant like this?
Our royal family bring in a £1 billion economic benefit to the UK.

Although maybe slightly less embarrassing than that single WW2 tank in Russia's May Day parade 😂

I think it’s tone deaf.

I wouldn't count on it, Barbadossunshine

In all honesty I doubt we'll get an electeed HoS in my lifetime, no matter how much I'd like it to happen, but there's a long and depressing history of Labour PMs "going native" with the monarchy once elected, no matter how waspish they once may have been when in opposition

It isn't actually clear to me what republicans think.
Many of them say they want to abolish the monarchy because of the cost of it and that it's wrong for people to inherit massive wealth and titles just because of an accident of birth, yet they don't seem to realise the costs if a president was head of state and don't have any cogent ideas what to do with the aristocracy.
Others veer very far left almost to admiring the theories of communism yet are still critical of how it works in practice.
I find that many people simply say they want to abolish the monarchy without having given a single thought as to how that would happen in practice.
I'm assuming you're a republican, how do you think we would arrive at that state from the monarchy we have today?

don't have any cogent ideas what to do with the aristocracy.

Why would they have to do anything with the aristocracy? I suppose titles could be made illegal but I’m not sure what that would achieve.

An elected president would cost a fraction of the half billion royals. Take for example Irelands Mr Michael D Higgins cost £4 million. Our president would be a parliamentary republic with limited powers mainly to hold government to account by upholding the laws of our constitution, something Charles can't do. He is above the law unaccountable secretive. The monarchy is corrupt in public office for private gain, Kings Consent able to vet legislation and change it for his benefit. Democracy not monarchy that's what Republic want.

The trooping of the colour should be about the military royals make it about themselves and wearing medals that they didn't earn.

But we’re told it’s not about cost. Trump’s making up law and flouting the constitution. The US is currently an absolute monarchy to all intents and purposes at least ours is just constitutional. And the Trooping of the Colours IS about the Army.

Visit Britain admitted there would be no difference to tourism if monarchy gone.

We can still have pagentary with an elected Head of State.

I'd be interested to see examples of where the consent of the monarch has meant that legislation has had to be changed for their benefit. I'm obviously not talking about in very much earlier times, say in the 20th century onwards?

The US president's ability to make executive orders on whatever he wants regarding legislation far far outweighs any power the UK monarch has in that regard.

Corruption can exist in any administrative system, republicanism per se obviously doesn't reduce that in any shape or form.

How can Visit Britain possibly know that?

This is true to an extent but you have expressed it in a rather hyperbolic manner.

Visit Britain routinely surveys tourists to the UK as to why they are visiting the UK and those surveys consistently show that the royal family is not a significant reason.

It has also got a lot of stats that demonstrate that "royal" tourist attractions aren't a major draw.

But no public body such as Visit Britain would ever publicly pronounce the royals aren't a draw even if one could reasonably infer that from its data.

There are many reasons I would like to see the end of the Monarchy. Not the least of them is that I think people should not be subjects.

Why do you think the left wing hate the country? I just don’t understand the thought process.
Anyway I’m left wing, I’m not a fan of royalty, but I love all the pageantry in state occasions, the skill and attention to detail. Particularly the music.

You don’t think the musicians are talented?

You think the Royals including George Charlotte and Louis should be herded into a basement and shot? Are you aware this is a parenting site that's one of the nastiest things I have read on Mumsnet.

To be a musician at that level you need both.

In 1973 queen had a transparency legislation changed to hide her embarrassing wealth from the public, that was one example of over a thousand that were changed.