To think shein is actually good?

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Always been sniffy about any fast fashion (never knowingly bought anything). Have lots of stuff going on over the summer. Spent 100s +++ on different outfits from various labels. Now desperate so gave Shein a try and the outfits look really good. As a tall woman it’s unusual to find stuff that actually fits well.

If only there was a search engine called something like Giggle where you could search for something like "ethical brands" and get your answer.

I only used them.once and that was a mistake
I ordered two dresses. Only one arrived, it took weeks and it was very bad quality. The second dress never turned up.

My favourite jumpers came from Shein but I've also had some horrific quality stuff which went straight to a charity shop and I doubt anyone would buy them. For that reason, I won't buy from there again. We are such a chuck away population and I don't want to be.

How do you think they can sell things so cheaply. They will still be getting a profit .
Investigations have found that conditions in Shein are terrible

You can swap clothes or get bundles off FB for free. People are constantly trying to offload clothes.

I find it quite weird that people can feel good wearing clothes where the manufacturing process and supply chain etc is unethical - where people are paid poorly for their labour and no concern is given for the environment.
There is far more accessible information available these days, so we can all educate ourselves about it.

We all need to consume less, most of us have way more than we actually 'need' and so much clothes are in circulation already.

I started buying clothes in charity shops years ago as a teenager (1980s) and continued to do so when bringing up children as a single parent. I now earn a decent salary, but I still try to buy most of my stuff secondhand. I find it more enjoyable and fun to see what I can find.

There are lots of companies making ethical clothes now They usually cost more, but that's not such an issue if we try to buy less, so buy better quality, a lot less often.

I understand it's not easy if you have children and you're on a low wage. Lots of secondhand kids' clothes available though on Facebook, e-bay etc!

I still manage to get most of my clothes in charity shops, Vinted or on e-bay. Doesn't always work out, some items occasionally don't turn up or end up back on a selling platform or charity shop, but I'd rather do that than buy new.

Another good option is to learn to sew with a sewing machine, even with a basic machine you can alter clothes easily so they fit better, mend them so they last longer or make a few pieces yourself!

I've bought some jeans on Shein and they are fantastic. Proper denim like jeans used to be and they fit and look good.

The quality of the jeans is better than those from high street brands that I have previously used, so they are going to last me for years, certainly not "fast fashion" for me anyway.

I won't use Shein as a default clothes provider as I do worry about the ethics, but I am broke, fat, and needed a pair of jeans/bottoms that fit. At the moment I struggle to get jeans to fit that aren't skinny, and sizing is so varied.

Well the like of M&S may well have better quality items, but are they fashionable?

The bottom line surely is fashion houses pumping out ‘must have items’

We see ladies in here saying ‘can I still wear XYZ?’ And people chiming in with NO - that’s so last year!!

Maybe poor people should still be in 80’s clothes? I think people would appreciate me in bum skimming rara skirt and leg warmers, so excuse me if I don’t!

People always say oh buying drugs is bad because of the human element involved (poor people who are dragged into the supply chain / trafficking etc )

how is shein any different to that

Holier than thou people who gasp at the Shein effect on the planet can do one, if they say this before closing the door on one of the four SUVs the family has for four people, in a city.

As for trading standards, there is a distribution centre for Shein in Belgium. The EU only allows non EU imports that comply with EU standards. I don't know about the rules in Britain.

This.

three years ago, when I still lived in Canada, had tons of charity shops and discount shops, could buy clothes anywhere, I was on the "don't shop shein, temu bandwagon. Now I live on an island. There are NO charity shops, and the clothes that are actually for sale here are not even close to anything I would wear. I have now become the owner of several shein and temu dresses, sandals, shoes, yoga shorts, yoga pants, vest tops, and many bathingsuits. Only once was my shipment garbage quality. I have an account that delivers to miami and then ships to me here in Dominican Republic. I cannot return anything so vinted, ebay and really most companies are a no go for me, as i will not spend alot if I have no chance to return it. I have a capsule wardrobe of really good quality clothes, but honestly have little chance to wear anything dressy here, the odd evening out, it is my good clothes (that will last me years) but heading to the beach or shopping or out for a walk? temu or shein dresses and shorts and t's. That being said.. I recently lost some more weight and I am holding off buying clothes as I am visiting our daughter in Canada in early sept for 2 weeks, so I will be filling a suitcase as the end of season sales should be on.

Curious… why do you think that?!

What kind of jobs do you think the factory workers would have if they didn’t work in factories? Many would have to resort to prostitution simply to feed their children, young girls of 8,10,12 would be sold to god knows what fate.

Nice deflection there.
No, I don't order from Shein etc.
No, I don't own an SUV type vehicle, nor do I live in a city.

And the other lazy argument, that you're actually doing the slaves a favour. 🙄

Im a temu fan.

I didn’t say that but people keep saying how terrible the working conditions are but that’s how their country is. They will never have a nice wee office role or UC and council accommodation if they fall on hard times. It’s shit factories or prostitution so yes the working conditions are terrible but nothing will change that.

They’ll be saying using prostitutes is helping impoverished women next 🙄

I met a elderly lady in San Francisco who had made products in 9 different concentration camps as a child. I think of her every time I see the Shein and Temu adverts.

I often wonder why imports of Shein goods are not banned in the UK.

If it is truly an unethical slave using, copy and scraping (from other designers), and landfill guzzling outfit, surely someone in Government would say, "hey this is awful, gotta get some rules in place and ban the stuff from entering the country".

I smile when I see that the onus is on the purchaser of such goods, not the trading/import standards arm of Government. I assume they will say it's a free market and we rely on the public to do our job for us.

If it's legal, it's legal though, that's the bottom line really.

I like it. I honestly struggle to find anything I like in the shops anymore, but I find loads on shein. For my son also, there's just nothing for him when I go up town that doesn't involve a dinosaur

Nobody on here has ever used SHEIN. Meanwhile in real life…

@PhilippaGeorgiouthanks for that always nice to be corrected.
So yeah I chose the wrong wording but I know you know I meant, posters who think Shein are no different to other retailers such as Primark or Zara.

And yes I agree some people have very few other options. Many however do and just want to buy new stuff.

All I’ll say is that it’s hard to be ethical when you’re poor.